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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

IfiHadTheWings

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I feel we will get better so not overly worried just yet but i do have that nagging Jose feeling atm where we are getting results that are papering over the performances, we need a tweek in either the system or the personnel.
 

YB123

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I feel we will get better so not overly worried just yet but i do have that nagging Jose feeling atm where we are getting results that are papering over the performances, we need a tweek in either the system or the personnel.

Although hes been steady and barely put a foot wrong...I think Emerson is a major problem in our style and building from the back.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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Although hes been steady and barely put a foot wrong...I think Emerson is a major problem in our style and building from the back.
I’d agree with that tbh, i was saying earlier although he has been performing a lot better, he doesn’t put fear in to his opposing number i’d give Doc a run out on Saturday.
 

rossdapep

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I don't think changing the system is the issue.

I think it's personnel.

I still believe Hojbjerg, Davies and Emerson won't be automatic starters by January.

Spence will get a chance and take it. Bissouma will settle and him and Bentancur will show to be the best pairing.

Lenglet will show the ability on the ball that Davies lacks.

There will come a point when Conte trusts these players more than those playing now.

Also, Richarlison will start more often.
 

ralphs bald spot

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Although hes been steady and barely put a foot wrong...I think Emerson is a major problem in our style and building from the back.

the reason we don't build from the back that well has nothing to do with the defenders the midfield is to deep they aren't available to receive the ball in any progressive way it means balls have to played long and other sides can push on to you - its also negating Son completely as he is ending up receiving little meaningful ball or when he receives it, being so deep himself which isn't his game. If the midfield pushes up even 10 yards they stretch the play just enough to make it all a little easier -
 
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fishhhandaricecake

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I don't think changing the system is the issue.

I think it's personnel.

I still believe Hojbjerg, Davies and Emerson won't be automatic starters by January.

Spence will get a chance and take it. Bissouma will settle and him and Bentancur will show to be the best pairing.

Lenglet will show the ability on the ball that Davies lacks.

There will come a point when Conte trusts these players more than those playing now.

Also, Richarlison will start more often.
100% this.

It’s also why another CB and AM would help but sounds like we won’t be getting anyone else in, good solid window but without anymore in I think conte will know 3rd/4th is about near we can hope for and a trophy.
 

bubble07

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Took a hit today. 0.63 XG

Starting to wonder if preseason training was too hard after a long season last year and a short break last summer and this. It could be playing a part. Hopefully it helps later in the season but I suspect the manager isn’t 100% happy.

But also isn’t this what sometimes happens when Conte has to prepare two games a week?

We had the majority of the ball which is why XG is so low. West ham did what we normally do
 

bubble07

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1 criticism is why we don't bring Richarlison on and keep the front 3 and just sub a CB
 

YB123

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we don't build from the back has nothing to do with the defenders the midfield is to deep they aren't available to receive the ball in any progressive way it means balls have to played long and other sides can push on to you - its also negating Son completely as he is ending up receiving little meaningful ball or when he receives it, being so deep himself which isn't his game. If the midfield pushes up even 10 yards they stretch the play just enough to make it all a little easier -

Pretty much what a Conte team is built on. And we've seen it with Romero and Davies
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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1 criticism is why we don't bring Richarlison on and keep the front 3 and just sub a CB
We looked like crap the few minutes we played as a back 4 against Chelsea.

Maybe Conte would consider it if we were losing, but I can't see that move when we are even.

"If you can't win, at least don't lose."
 

ralphs bald spot

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Pretty much what a Conte team is built on. And we've seen it with Romero and Davies

mistyped - we don't it that well largely because the midfield offers no options going forward they are sitting in front of the back 4 and have very little forward impact at all in games either creatively or as a goal threat
 

bubble07

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How scary is it that if richarlison gets injured we are in exactly the same position as last season in attacking areas
 

robotsonic

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How scary is it that if richarlison gets injured we are in exactly the same position as last season in attacking areas
We do have Perisic also, and every team is in the same boat if their new signings were to go down. Besides, I'm not sure the front three is where our problem is. They lack the chemistry of last season so far but if they don't see the ball in a position to do damage for most of the game then they may as well all be crocked.
 

The Long Suffering One

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What worries me is that Conte's main system only works with the tried and tested players and when one or two of the key cogs are missing, it's rendered ineffective.

We say that a bona fide creative CAM is not needed in this largely counter attacking system but there will be games like tonight where teams sit back and we do have sustained possession of the football. But because we don't possess a creative playmaker, we inevitably become sterile and struggle.

We will challenge no doubt, but unless the manager switches things up at times, we will fall short again.
 
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