spursfan77
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Conte didn’t want him so he hasn’t played him. All a power play.
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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Conte didn’t want him so he hasn’t played him. All a power play.
Trix
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Indeed, it wasn't a lack of effort that let us down last night, in the same way it wasn't that Conte didn't care. They tried and fell short simple as that. For me the loss can be attributed to the players not being good enough or not being coached well enough or what ever else, but it certainly wasn't down to them being lazy or not caring/trying.
RuskyM
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I don’t think it was a lack of effort: it was they had no idea what to do offensively.
Wearegoingtowintheleague
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Thank you Conte.
You did well to get us Champions league last season, but since then it hasn't worked out. Its been an awful season with very little to cheer.
I wish you well in the future. But with the manner of our exits from the cups and now players openly speaking out its clear the time has come for us to part ways.
Now lets get a new man in, give him the rest of the season to work with the squad and see what we can salvage.
On another note.
Its so disappointing to think that may be the last time we see Kane play in the champions league for us.
You did well to get us Champions league last season, but since then it hasn't worked out. Its been an awful season with very little to cheer.
I wish you well in the future. But with the manner of our exits from the cups and now players openly speaking out its clear the time has come for us to part ways.
Now lets get a new man in, give him the rest of the season to work with the squad and see what we can salvage.
On another note.
Its so disappointing to think that may be the last time we see Kane play in the champions league for us.
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Gilzeanking
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Yep, I can't see a way out. It seems crazy, in any business to keep a failing manager who is certain to leave in 3 months. Conte is just picking up the cheques for 3 months...yes he has to do pressers and say the expected things, but there won't be any rage to succeed in them, after the defeats to come he may even crack a smile or two in pressers. A treading water period for him.
Which is ridiculous, so change it.....or do we have to wait for a few more disastrous defeats to realise that he is having a negative effect. Guess our top 4 position (having played more games than anyone around us) will have to change to 6th-7th before reality hits home.
Obv it's Poch..I've run out of energy to resist because I feel he'd be better than Conte now, knows the setup at Spurs, has probably been following the team closely knowing he's a shoe-in after Conte.....But FFS on a SHORT contract.
His whole system is old and so Italian no one looks forward pass it around to bore the opponent , midfield looks to pass back and slow it down forwards don’t make runs his got the players go with
Richy
Kane
Son. Kusi
Holdberg , skip
davies Romero dier romeo
4 at the back works works works
Richy
Kane
Son. Kusi
Holdberg , skip
davies Romero dier romeo
4 at the back works works works
Not according to some of the ITK, it's not. From what we've heard, the board doesn't know or can't agree who to appoint next.
Gilzeanking
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Oh crap I wrote our players put in a shift last night...typo meant it came out as shiftiest performance which read as the shittiest to people. I think they put in big effort last night, sorry folks.
We lost the tie anyway!!!
Sorry but needing a goal to force extra-time with 10 minutes remaining and bringing on Sanchez summed up Conte’s safety first approach. And by the way we looked just as susceptible to the counter when he changed it.
You commented that ‘every top manager would’ve done the same’ but that’s not true. Eg, Klopp has stuck Van Dijk up front when needing a goal in knock out football.
He could’ve sat Hojbjerg as an auxiliary centre half with Lenglet & Davies and left the rest to try to find a goal. He didn’t need to sacrifice an attacking player.
I said before the game, 0-0 is the worst result as it probably means we didn’t throw everything we had at scoring. And with 10 mins to go, that was exactly the time to do it. May as we’ll lose 2-0 on agg as 1-0.
Utterly disgraceful
Rout-Ledge
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It’s the whole philosophy that’s wrong. It can (but not always) work very nicely against teams that play an open attacking game, but against teams that don’t need to come at us…it’s abysmal.
Yeah, I'd be very surprised if Levy sacks him while we still have a realistic chance of being in the top four.
There have been murmurings of the dressing room turning, in which case Levy would be forced to act.
Otherwise, we will probably stumble on as we have been for the rest of the season.
Trix
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There was a lot wrong and it's been that way for a while, we all see that. My concern now is what we do about it. I have backed Conte completely but he's a lame duck now we have no trophies to play for and isn't going to be here next season. I'll scream it until the day I die in defence of him that we shouldn't have appointed a manager like him if we were only going to half back him. Yes it's a lot of money and yes he should have done better, but he's all or nothing, and as a club that should have been known and taken into consideration prior to his appointment.
I am of the opinion that the Sanchez sub was needed however how it was completed was too negative. You have both Skipp and Hojberg attacking in the center player CAM roles or neither is really suited. It would have been best for Skipp to go off for Sanchez, Kane to go deep (Everything good last night went through Kane), and stick with the three up top. Instead, we lost an attacking force in Kulu (who although poor looked much better when he had Poro's pace complementing him), and played with 2 midfielders, and especially Skipp is unlikely to grab a goal.
Son won the golden boot last season playing under Conte. Kulesevski d great stats from January to the end of last season playing for Conte. Perisic won a Scudetto playing for Conte. Fact is all 3 have not performed to their usual standards this season - do we truly believe that Conte is to blame for their poor form?
The football is dire, the substitutions questionable, but it is the same manager and system that took us from mid table to 4th last season when he had players in form and was lucky with injuries. So I ask, is it;
a) the serial winner manager and his system to blame or
b ) the poor form of key players and lack of quality alternatives
Because if it is b) - then it doesn't really matter who is in charge.
The football is dire, the substitutions questionable, but it is the same manager and system that took us from mid table to 4th last season when he had players in form and was lucky with injuries. So I ask, is it;
a) the serial winner manager and his system to blame or
b ) the poor form of key players and lack of quality alternatives
Because if it is b) - then it doesn't really matter who is in charge.
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Rival fans mocking us is ok, it is what makes football fun but when your own coach starts mocking you that is unacceptable. If we mocked our employer on social media, the following morning your manager would be having strong words.
This experiment with serial winner Conte needs to conclude now. Someone should have asked him how Sheffield United beat us with their reserves.
This experiment with serial winner Conte needs to conclude now. Someone should have asked him how Sheffield United beat us with their reserves.
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For my money, they're over coached in a thoroughly rigid system and scared to go off script. A few years of Mourinho and Conte seems to have beaten every shred of spontaneity out of the players. You only need look at the way Bissouma was kept out while he learned the 'Conte way', and then when he got his chance he was a shadow of who he was at Brighton the season before. Can't wait to see the back of this crap that gets served up match after match.
tommo84
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Toxicity among the fans and in the stadium is something that will influence Levy’s decision. Richarlison’s comments point to growing toxicity among the players - that tends to force Levy’s hand to act quickly.
I expect Conte to take charge versus Forest, and maybe the following game, as both look very winnable (this obviously doesn’t mean we’ll win them, but might affect Levy’s assessment of risk/benefit to making a change sooner - especially if a replacement isn’t sorted). I’ll be stunned if he’s still here after the international break though.
The fans don’t want him here any longer. His comments strongly suggest he’s checked out. Richarlison surely isn’t alone in his displeasure towards Conte. And the on pitch performances seriously jeopardise European football next season and the money that brings, which Levy and the Board will be concerned with. I’m struggling now to think of any group likely to advocate him staying until the summer.
I expect Conte to take charge versus Forest, and maybe the following game, as both look very winnable (this obviously doesn’t mean we’ll win them, but might affect Levy’s assessment of risk/benefit to making a change sooner - especially if a replacement isn’t sorted). I’ll be stunned if he’s still here after the international break though.
The fans don’t want him here any longer. His comments strongly suggest he’s checked out. Richarlison surely isn’t alone in his displeasure towards Conte. And the on pitch performances seriously jeopardise European football next season and the money that brings, which Levy and the Board will be concerned with. I’m struggling now to think of any group likely to advocate him staying until the summer.
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The run of form at the end of last season was the exception not the rule to Conte’s 18 months. I trust my eyes. We’re fucking shit. Players have got worse in his tenure. He’s playing one of the leagues best forwards out of position taking away the elements he does well and asking him to do things he’s never been able to do. The football is turgid. He talks about the club we love so condescendingly and negatively. Fuck him. I don’t give a fuck who he is I don’t want him representing our club
he talks disparagingly about his own players.
- Kulu
- Bentancur
- Perisic
- Lenglet
- Bissouma
- Richarlison
- Danjuma
- Forster
- Porro
These are all players that have joined during his tenure. 1/3rd of the squad!
He’s gaslighting the entire club into thinking we’re essentially relegation fodder. As if we haven’t been in the Champions League for the majority of the last 6/7 years!
he talks disparagingly about his own players.
- Kulu
- Bentancur
- Perisic
- Lenglet
- Bissouma
- Richarlison
- Danjuma
- Forster
- Porro
These are all players that have joined during his tenure. 1/3rd of the squad!
He’s gaslighting the entire club into thinking we’re essentially relegation fodder. As if we haven’t been in the Champions League for the majority of the last 6/7 years!
Jamturk
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We are still in a race for Top 4, for the board at least this is a very high priority.
Worryingly Conte didn't sound like he was up for rallying the troops for this objective however he was probably too upset to even be thinking of this at the time.
I think we have more chance of Top 4 with Conte in place than trying to bring someone in.
What a terrible week for the club on the pitch.
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