Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

talkshowhost86 · Mar 20, 2023

fishhhandaricecake said:
I know right, says a lot about the IQ of some on here, how can 'one' disagree with the statement that having the right Manager can make a big difference?

Brilliant

In that case lets just not have a manager, get rid of Antonio and let the players work it all out themselves and see how that goes.

I'm actually going to campaign for a 'rolling manager' system.

Each manager gets a match-to-match contract and if they don't win their match, they don't get it renewed and we move on to someone else for the next game.

It provides an equal amount of long-term thinking as is going on at board-level right now, and also offers the opportunity of some insane attacking football in a desperate bid to cling on to a job.

Would certainly be more fun than the last few years have been.

Japhet · Mar 20, 2023

mil1lion said:
Then neither is Guardiola because he's only done it at the top clubs. How many managers really beat the odds? It's a tall order to do that. We'll never succeed unless we spend big. I would prefer a more attacking manager too. They will still need big money to beat the likes of City to any silverware though. We will still be weak minded and lack any ambition. At least Conte is ambitious whether you like him or not. At least he wants to break this loser mentality here. Finally a manager who tells it how it is and calls us out for it publicly.

Shouldn't have done it publicly. He's still drawing a massive salary and should be keeping all of this behind closed doors, but has chosen to come out and protect his own brand by attacking the players he coaches and manages. So many of our failings are on him and his rigid but badly flawed system but he's taken zero responsibility and shown no signs of trying to fix anything for the entire season.

talkshowhost86 · Mar 20, 2023

Nebby said:
Exactly. If you allow teams to dominate the ball, bad things will happen. We surrender possession and with it control and initiative. It’s a recipe for disaster as our goals against stats prove.

Crystal bloody Palace have conceded fewer goals than us.

Whatever you think of our available defenders they are better than what Vieira had available.

mil1lion · Mar 20, 2023

ralphs bald spot said:
but football has changed whether you like or not winning the League Cup or FA Cup is nice and a decent day out for us all but the emphasis is on finishing top 4 thats where football has gone not just Tottenham how we all celebrated beating the lot down the road just last season to qualify that was supposed to have been the biggest North London derby since the Gazza game - I agree we ought to be making more of an effort in the cups and not sending weakened side sides but that's modern football the cups don't have the same meaning anymore so being a cup side soon loses its appeal -

Firstly look at playing decent front foot posession based football that entertains people

Yet the top teams win the trophies most of the time. It only loses its appeal because those teams always win it. The fact is the top teams spend the most money on the best squads so they can win trophies. Why are we not joining them? Are we just accepting that everyone else is spending more so we just accept this is as good as it gets? Seems contradictory to what Levy said about the stadium being a game changer. It's been as much of a game changer as it has for West Ham. Why bother getting Jose or Conte and act like we're a big club. We're the wanksters of football.

Hoopspur · Mar 20, 2023

Rob said:
I do feel our DoF situation has us in limbo right now. We can't start a manager search until that's sorted one way or another.

Might be longer than thought. Heard this afternoon via Andy Brassel (?) on the radio that Juve are contesting the way the evidence/info was obtained or put together. They are trying to get their 15 point deduction reinstated. In addition more clubs are being drawn into this and it may well be more widespread in the game in Italy.
Meanwhile the Italian FA are pushing to extend FP’s ban but other things are getting in the way.
*Apologies if this wasn’t what I think I heard.

FinnYid · Mar 20, 2023

mil1lion said:
How many managers really beat the odds?

Some have done it on every club like Klopp.

mil1lion said:
We will still be weak minded and lack any ambition. At least Conte is ambitious whether you like him or not.

Throwing checkbook around has absolutely nothing to do with ambition, it has all to do with resources. Or stupidity in case of Leeds and like.

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Yid-ol · Mar 20, 2023

talkshowhost86 said:
I'm actually going to campaign for a 'rolling manager' system.

Each manager gets a match-to-match contract and if they don't win their match, they don't get it renewed and we move on to someone else for the next game.

It provides an equal amount of long-term thinking as is going on at board-level right now, and also offers the opportunity of some insane attacking football in a desperate bid to cling on to a job.

Would certainly be more fun than the last few years have been.

Can we do the rolling managers as people from here! Would be more amusing.

npearl4spurs · Mar 20, 2023

Wow I'm pleasantly surprised to see that most have seen the light and truth of what he is saying.

Russ1201 · Mar 20, 2023

rossdapep said:
Great. Players winning once again

Player power just like Chelsea with the players having the power. Only difference they spend money and win trophies.

Tucker · Mar 20, 2023

I can see the appeal of breaking the cycle and backing the guy. I can.

But by god we are boring to watch.

Dazzazzad · Mar 20, 2023

Bluto Blutarsky said:
We have lots of players - influential players - who seem to lack that fire or intensity. It's not that they are not professional, it's that willingness to put yourself out to win a tackle, an aerial, a 50-50 ball.

Jesus, don't let Romero read this.

mil1lion · Mar 20, 2023

talkshowhost86 said:
All of that would be great with Conte if he didn't set us up on the pitch to sit back and let teams bully us.

I'm not saying we should, or even could go out and pass teams off the park or swashbuckle our way around the pitch for 90 minutes.

But the timid way he sets us up week-in-week-out isn't the hallmark of an ambitious winner for me.

His style is certainly dated but it has got him success. Maybe it can't work in England anymore but this isn't a typical Conte team either. Just look at the teams he's worked with in the past. They have winners and real character especially in defence. He may set us up to defend but our defence is too weak and bottles it. He should take some blame for it but he shouldn't change his style when it's worked everywhere else. I'm not a fan of the style especially if we win nothing but I still think he's a top manager once he gets the players for his system to work. The trouble with this style of manager is when the team is not built its not fun to watch. If its an attacking manager like Potter even when it fails you can at least enjoy some of the football being played.

soup · Mar 20, 2023

As an aside, thanks @Trix for laying out a few speed bumps of clarification and keeping us on course on this fast track to insanity that is THFC. Supposition without some degree of insight would make this place even more crazy! Appreciate it dude.

sidford · Mar 20, 2023

Jack Pitt Brooke from Athletic is firmly of opinion that he's not lasting the international break. Obviously he's just a journo etc etc but imo he is a good one and has some knowledge of the club.

sidford · Mar 20, 2023

If levy doesn't sack Conte in these two weeks then Conte must be signing a new deal. If not then it's a truly terrible decision keeping him.
Conte has publicly shit on all the players. If Conte doesn't get sacked then it's not exactly a big leap to think that the players will be pissed off not only at Conte but also at the club for not protecting them. I know we all have our feelings about whether Conte is right in the points or not but think about it from a normal employee point of view. Your manager has told the world you're basically all weak and not mentally strong enough. Your actual company keeps the manager on for another few months until the manager leaves on his own terms. What would you think as an employee? I know I'd be pissed and would likely look to leave as soon as I could as how could you have faith in the upper management of the company for what could be interpreted as agreeing with what the manager said.

chrisd2k · Mar 20, 2023

YB123 said:
Lloris (Last 4)
Sanchez (Last 4)
Tanganga
Dier (Last 4)
Davies (Last 4)
Hojbjerg
Lucas (Last 4)
Sess (Last 4)
Son (Last 4)
Kane (Last 4)

Also on the books

Winks (Last 4)
Ndombele (Last 4)
Rodon
Lo Celso (Last 4)
Regi

Bit more than a handful......

We're counting those who aren't here. Unbelievable

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 20, 2023

talkshowhost86 said:
I'm actually going to campaign for a 'rolling manager' system.

Each manager gets a match-to-match contract and if they don't win their match, they don't get it renewed and we move on to someone else for the next game.

It provides an equal amount of long-term thinking as is going on at board-level right now, and also offers the opportunity of some insane attacking football in a desperate bid to cling on to a job.

Would certainly be more fun than the last few years have been.

Brilliant idea mate

would love to see this.

Right lads so Tuchel won 2 but lost his 3rd game and so for the next match we are flying Romero’s crazy uncle over to give it a go, once he runs out of wins we’re going to try and tempt that football manager kid managing in France to see if he fancies a go, after that I think Ben Davies mum said she’ll take the next match etc

Would probably be more effective that the strategy Levy has come up with or not come up with since he fired Poch.

mil1lion · Mar 20, 2023

FinnYid said:
Some have done it on every club like Klopp.

Throwing checkbook around has absolutely nothing to do with ambition, it has all to do with resources. Or stupidity in case of Leeds and like.

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Klopp has spent more than we have too. He got what he needed and they won things as a result. His squad was as bad if not worse than ours was when Conte arrived but they backed him. We're in the top 10 wealthiest clubs and we still don't splash in the window. Every window doing the minimum and looking for the best bargains. We have the resources but we don't have the ambition to use them to win titles.

chrisd2k · Mar 20, 2023

Trix said:
He's not wrong though, I've heard similar.

I think we all agree the players haven't don't themselves any favours but I don't see a group of players who don't work hard or care, I see players with no direction and full of uncertainty in what they're doing.

That surely comes from the manager?

Trent Crimm · Mar 20, 2023

sidford said:
If levy doesn't sack Conte in these two weeks then Conte must be signing a new deal. If not then it's a truly terrible decision keeping him.
Conte has publicly shit on all the players. If Conte doesn't get sacked then it's not exactly a big leap to think that the players will be pissed off not only at Conte but also at the club for not protecting them. I know we all have our feelings about whether Conte is right in the points or not but think about it from a normal employee point of view. Your manager has told the world you're basically all weak and not mentally strong enough. Your actual company keeps the manager on for another few months until the manager leaves on his own terms. What would you think as an employee? I know I'd be pissed and would likely look to leave as soon as I could as how could you have faith in the upper management of the company for what could be interpreted as agreeing with what the manager said.

They not normal employees tho.

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