Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

spursfan77 · Mar 21, 2023

rossdapep said:
Yet we finished games strongly (Chelsea, Wolves, Leeds, Bournemouth, Marseille etc) which suggests the approach to the start of games was wrong.

That seems to have been the case all season doesn’t it? I suspect it is all a build up of things. But that’s what’s so frustrating about Conte. Had he changed his tactics earlier, freed up the players and was a bit less rigid then it would have all been ok.

On the flip side that should bode well for the new guy because freeing up the players should help results and performances (doing a redknapp if you like). I’m still optimistic of the top four because of that.

Stamford · Mar 21, 2023

olliec said:
Cycle needs to be broken or we are going backwards. Let’s see if Conte commits. Let’s stop giving those players who want him out what they want. They should be the ones who are gone not the manager. I really hope levy convinces conte to sign a new contract as it shows we are making strides to be different.

Conte has to go. It clearly isn't going to work. I agree that there should be repercussions though and that should start at the board level. The fact that Levy is overseeing another manager search without any change at board level is completely insane.

spursfan77 · Mar 21, 2023

Archibald&Crooks said:
Really? That surprises me. I think the opposite, I think he was being honest and his rant was about the club from top to bottom, It badly needed saying.

As I’ve said from the start, people analyse his words too much and don’t take into consideration his lack of English vocabulary. I don’t think he meant selfish but more like not willing to help our team mates. He actually said as much when giving interviews to the tv companies after the game. But that’s been ignored as the press conference quotes are so much more juicy. He really didn’t help himself there and got too carried away.

coy-spurs1882 · Mar 21, 2023

Stamford said:
Conte has to go. It clearly isn't going to work. I agree that there should be repercussions though and that should start at the board level. The fact that Levy is overseeing another manager search without any change at board level is completely insane.

that means he needs to step down which he won't ever

Russ1201 · Mar 21, 2023

spurs9 said:
Getting the right manager is much more important than getting top 4 this season. If putting Mason in for 10 games allows us to do that, than I'm all for it.

Thong that concerns me is if Mason sonehow does well to end of season that clampit Levy would be tempted to keep him the following season. A nice cheap option for him don't trust Levy one bit !

Led Revolver · Mar 21, 2023

With all due respect to Ryan Mason, we’d be going from the equivalent of a serial winner to club scout leader..

We are the 9th richest club in the World, and pay the highest season ticket prices in the richest league in the World. Personally, with 25% of our home league games to go we should be employing a proper experienced manager right NOW! We are not even close to getting value for money the way things are being run. I’m fed up of paying through the nose to see the last 25% of what I’m paying for just be frittered away yet again by ‘mother knows best’.

Install a top class manager, and finally back him with the players that he needs to succeed. Otherwise, fuck off and sell to someone who wants to do the job properly and professionally.

spurs9 · Mar 21, 2023

Russ1201 said:
Thong that concerns me is if Mason sonehow does well to end of season that clampit Levy would be tempted to keep him the following season. A nice cheap option for him don't trust Levy one bit !

Nah, not worried about that, Sherwood did well results wise but still got binned at the end of the season.

allatsea · Mar 21, 2023

Stamford said:
Conte has to go. It clearly isn't going to work. I agree that there should be repercussions though and that should start at the board level. The fact that Levy is overseeing another manager search without any change at board level is completely insane.

The failure, if that is what it is, of Conte needing him to be sacked is all down to Levy. He appointed the wrong type of person and the wrong type of manager and then failed to support him in the transfer market.

If Conte is sacked Levy's "proud" record of failed managerial appointments will continue. There can be no optimism the next appointment will be the right appointment and I post as someone who has given Levy considerable support on SC.

Harrier · Mar 21, 2023

Archibald&Crooks said:
Really? That surprises me. I think the opposite, I think he was being honest and his rant was about the club from top to bottom, It badly needed saying…….

behind closed doors!!

allatsea · Mar 21, 2023

Led Revolver said:
With all due respect to Ryan Mason, we’d be going from the equivalent of a serial winner to club scout leader..

We are the 9th richest club in the World, and pay the highest season ticket prices in the richest league in the World. Personally, with 25% of our home league games to go we should be employing a proper experienced manager right NOW! We are not even close to getting value for money the way things are being run. I’m fed up of paying through the nose to see the last 25% of what I’m paying for just be frittered away yet again by ‘mother knows best’.

Install a top class manager, and finally back him with the players that he needs to succeed. Otherwise, fuck off and sell to someone who wants to do the job properly and professionally.

With their own money ?

1882andallthat · Mar 21, 2023

Archibald&Crooks said:
Really? That surprises me. I think the opposite, I think he was being honest and his rant was about the club from top to bottom, It badly needed saying.

If he was really being honest he would and should have taken some responsibility for some of our failings this season and admitted that some of this sh*tshow was down to his management of the team. What fans have also taken exception to is his apparent quick doubling down on saying it has anything to do with how the board have been running the show ..

Roberts84 · Mar 21, 2023

Bing said:
Dier was very clearly back up for Toby and Jan. Davies was back up for Rose. I don't think that in itself is an issue, players can develop and improve and grow into a starting place. I think the issue with Dier and Davies is that they have not developed the consistency needed to be key starting players for a club with ambitions of winning things.

iirc the stats shows that Davies played more games than Rose in each season after his first. In my opinion Davies is one of the most consistent players at the club which is why every manager has selected him. As to him being good enough is down to opinions.

Stoof · Mar 21, 2023

A blessed relief, for me.

The Jose-Nuno-Tony C era has been a real test for the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium parishioners.

At this stage I don’t actually care about winning the Carabao, first and foremost I just want to be excited by the football again and then go from there.

Japhet · Mar 21, 2023

Russ1201 said:
Thong that concerns me is if Mason sonehow does well to end of season that clampit Levy would be tempted to keep him the following season. A nice cheap option for him don't trust Levy one bit !

The problem with Mason is that he's the same age as some of the players and a bit older than most, hasn't achieved anywhere near as much as a player, hasn't managed to any extent and I don't think he'd have the authority or command much respect. Shouldn't be like that, but footballers generally think pretty highly of themselves. Levy won't respect him either which is a huge issue. No way I can see him getting anything other than a caretaker stint.

1882andallthat · Mar 21, 2023

spursfan77 said:
That seems to have been the case all season doesn’t it? I suspect it is all a build up of things. But that’s what’s so frustrating about Conte. Had he changed his tactics earlier, freed up the players and was a bit less rigid then it would have all been ok.

On the flip side that should bode well for the new guy because freeing up the players should help results and performances (doing a redknapp if you like). I’m still optimistic of the top four because of that.

I want to be optimistic about top 4 but what is immediately concerning me is that run of 3 consecutive fixtures of Newcastle A, Man Utd H, and Liverpool A in the next few weeks, where we need to break the habit of a season by not being inconsistent, standing up, being brave and not buckling under severe pressure in those games, especially the two away fixtures and somehow coming away with 7 points at least from these 3 fixtures. If we come away from those three with 0-4 points then we can pretty much consign 4th place to the bin for this season.

eddiebailey · Mar 21, 2023

G Ron said:
bUt iT’s tHe MaNaGerS fAuLT, nOt tHe PlAyErS aNd NoT tHe MeDdLiNg ChAiRmAn!

Nothing will change until the Decs are cleared from top to bottom

I’m happy just to clear out the Ants.

Whitey · Mar 21, 2023

chas vs dave said:
I'm not even sure Dier played a lot under Poch in his final few seasons.

Dier is the easy continuity scap goat.... Honestly, I like Deir as person and a player. The sad truth is he is a back up player at best. He did a great job in helping elevate the clubs expectations along with others when Poch started his process... I think the point is we have far too many of these type of squad players as first 11 starter's. Some need to go, if only to change the stench of failure.... That is all on Levy.... But maybe Dier and co are fantastic conversationalist around the breakfast table.

RuskyM · Mar 21, 2023

Conte said exactly the same bollocks at Chelsea - that they didn’t have ambition, that the club was rotten.

Sherwood said the team was lazy and within a year those players were helping us go for a title. Villa were heading down under Gerrard and now Emery has them looking at Europe. I don’t want him here but Tuchel organised a Chelsea defence into a European champion within months. It’s amazing how things can change.

I’m not saying Conte is a bad manager, but he has done a bad job this season; that’s why he’s losing his job. The Milan game summed it up: talk of needing atmosphere, of fans to support the team, and the fans did. And the team sat back. And did nothing. And then we bought on Sanchez to sure up the defence when we needed a goal. All that talk of patience from someone with one foot out the door all season.

I haven’t seen a manager get more support in terms of finances and fan appreciation from day one. And the result was the most underwhelming season I think I’ve seen. He has no one to blame but himself.

Norgie · Mar 21, 2023

As others have said he has to go but what a shit show, it wasn't long ago Arteta was under pressure and rival fans were worried we were employing Conte. Now look at the situation, Arsenal probably going to win the league and us about to embark on our next 18 month cycle, mess of a club.

stonecolddeanaustin · Mar 21, 2023

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