BedfordshireSpud
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There are obviously things to come out about the situation there that we are not aware of yet. Perhaps best not to be too eager to push the knife too deep into everyone’s backs just yet.
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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There are obviously things to come out about the situation there that we are not aware of yet. Perhaps best not to be too eager to push the knife too deep into everyone’s backs just yet.
No I didn't. I specifically wrote "majority". How does that infer "only" big clubs?
If I wanted to infer only I would have written only.
Albertbarich
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Lots of blame and bad luck to be shared round equally
We all knew it would end like this I think many of us just hoped that before it got to it we would have a trophy or two to enjoy
The club once again didn't properly back a manager and I wish they would reflect on why this keeps happening but I think nobody expects them to do that.
He was as crazy and emotional as we thought but for all you can look at the deeper reasons it was him that wouldn't commit, seemed to strangle the players ( see the performances in his absence) and produced some of the dullest football I've ever had the misfortune to witness.
The players need to look at themselves because the coach upsetting them shouldn't have that much effect on their performance. I appreciate it's somewhat human nature but as professionals I'm sure they would like to be stronger mentally.
Lastly I know the debate about a manager search will go on but I think the decision to keep Stellini on is a clever one. The squad is so well versed in this 343 and whether you hate it or not it's pretty effective so if we can get the emotional uplift that we did when Conte wasn't there and carry on with our effective system then top four isn't out of the question.
We all knew it would end like this I think many of us just hoped that before it got to it we would have a trophy or two to enjoy
The club once again didn't properly back a manager and I wish they would reflect on why this keeps happening but I think nobody expects them to do that.
He was as crazy and emotional as we thought but for all you can look at the deeper reasons it was him that wouldn't commit, seemed to strangle the players ( see the performances in his absence) and produced some of the dullest football I've ever had the misfortune to witness.
The players need to look at themselves because the coach upsetting them shouldn't have that much effect on their performance. I appreciate it's somewhat human nature but as professionals I'm sure they would like to be stronger mentally.
Lastly I know the debate about a manager search will go on but I think the decision to keep Stellini on is a clever one. The squad is so well versed in this 343 and whether you hate it or not it's pretty effective so if we can get the emotional uplift that we did when Conte wasn't there and carry on with our effective system then top four isn't out of the question.
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Your motive for buying the club is a huge factor here. If you bought it with the aim of building a footballing giant, then you would probably get people in to make informed footballing decisions. If you bought the club for purely financial reasons, well, then you'll probably choose to have all the say yourself.
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At the beginning of my reply I said forgive me if I’m wrong. I then went on to explain why your post came across that way. I never said that’s exactly what you meant or wrote, I was adding reasons for my perspective.
Instead of trying to reason with my response you immediately go on the defensive over a single word, condescending. But that’s exactly how it read to me.
You can’t discredit someone’s achievements at other clubs simply because they are bigger clubs. That’s the nature of football. Don’t we want to be one of those bigger clubs? Isn’t that our ambition? So trying to say the majority of those trophies happened at bigger clubs than spurs therefore discrediting those achievements vs our own comes across as condescending towards those managers, bigger clubs and achievements.
Dakes
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Astonishing when seeing it shown from that angle. There's nothing to look forward to under this ownership for a football fan.In the 23 years Enic have been here we've won 1 trophy.
In that same 23 year period the managers Levy has employed have won 63 trophies between them.
It's not the ownership, it's the managers though eh?
C-oops
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And take into account who we have to compete against in this country...
Joshua shepherd
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Or even completed a full season.
C-oops
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I must've misheard the levy out chants and the enic out people.
But you keep making stuff up about me discrediting managers' achievements? It's weird because I haven't done that. It's all coming from you.
It was pointed out that managers appointed under ENIC have won 63 trophies elsewhere, which I agree is quite a haul. I just wanted to add some perspective to that figure. I probably shouldn't have bothered.
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Again, I am not saying that’s what you’re intentions are, I am just saying that’s how it came across to me mate.
my apologies for reading it wrong
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mil1lion
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Not the fact that he can't be recalled?
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It makes me think that Conte is still genuinely ill and shouldn't have come back at all after his operation.
I'm sure Conte is the sort of person who deals extremely poorly with being ill, also from a mental point of view. He needs this time off.
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I personally think the 343 is fucking hopeless in the EPL. We had 2 exceptional players in Bentancur and Hojbjerg who were continually overrun in midfield, and very good backup players who fare no better. The sooner we get away from a midfield pivot the better as far as I'm concerned. I hope Stellini bins it now Conte isn't looking over his shoulder, but I'm also aware that he'll most likely be teaming up with Conte again soon enough, so maybe it will be more of the same.
Joshua shepherd
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Come on mate.
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I've hated the football but despite all the turmoil and bad luck we have had this season and there has been loads and loads of each were still fourth.
It's effective , and the players know what to do. Look at the results when Conte was sick. They didn't change it then.
Changing a system that we have obsessed over for 18 months in a champions League race probably isn't sensible even if it would likely mean prettier football
Totally agree with this.
Looks like a beaten man to me and perhaps more ill than we know. Really hope I am totally wrong.
Yeah. And I mean, if we want to look at how many trophies our previous managers have won, we can also look at how many trophies our much-maligned squad have won. I can't be bothered to calculate totals, but the following players have won tens of trophies between them:
Lloris; Forster; Porro; Emerson; Romero; Sanchez; Lenglet; Perisic; Hjobjerg; Bentancur; Kulusevski; Danjuma; Richarlison; Son; Lucas.
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That’s my concern. I don’t expect the formation to change, but I was hoping Mason would free the players up a bit; not so sure about Stellini.
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