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Match Prediction

  • Spurs to Win

    Votes: 110 78.6%

  • Spurs to Lose

    Votes: 4 2.9%

  • Score Draw

    Votes: 26 18.6%

  • Goal-less draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    140
  • Poll closed .
ReadieSpur

ReadieSpur

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So many posts at the start of the thread saying they'll take a point.

Vitriol at the end of the thread for only getting a point. ??
 
worcestersauce

worcestersauce

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I lost count of how many time our player in front of the box instinctively turned to play the ball out wide to the right and there was nobody there as Sanchez was barely over the halfway line, I'm not having go at Sanchez for that as its not his game at all, you can't ask stallion to climb a tree,
I'll take a 2-2 draw away from home but its a shame after we were two up.
 
glacierSpurs

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kaz Hirai said:
Be interesting to see how the other teams do in Athens , think some of the pace, intensity and skill caught us cold

I expect rose, aurier, Sissoko, Son and lamela will start the home game against them .

Eriksen, Davies, Sanchez, Dele, Kane all too slow and bumbling for that lot . Too much of that type in the 11
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I expect the rest of group B to take maximum points there.
 
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Hawk_Spur

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Few overreactions in here. Yes we were poor but there is still a long way to go in this group.

Can’t fathom why Poch would go back to Sanchez at RB. What does it say about KWP? Poch not trust him?

I’m really worried about Alli’s form. Been miles from it.
 
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dbspurs

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First half Saturday is the only shining light thus far. Think we are going to see a lot more Newcastle and Olympiakos type performances than Palace.

Unfortunately, I think we have reached our ceiling and Poch has no way of getting more out of these players.
 
Wheeler Dealer

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glacierSpurs said:
That's during our first two seasons with Poch. Probably one of the best defence in Europe.

How it goes south I don't know.
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Its been together too long. You now have 2 Belgians over 30 and in last 12 months of contracts. 2 left full backs. 1 who is being pissed about and the other with a chronic lack of pace. No trusted RB, so play a gormless centre back there who looks as comfortable as Boris Johnson at a family get together.
 
Saoirse

Saoirse

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16-17, we got 86 points.
17-18, we only got 77.
18-19, down to 71.

Second half of 18-19 we got only 26 points, equivalent to 52 over a season. If we do a bit better than that but continue the year-to-year decline, we'll be in the mid-60s. Maybe with the competition having their own problems, that'll scrape Top 4 this year. But at what point do we say enough is enough? Nobody's forgotten Saturday, but we used to have a team that played like that at home almost every week, not every few months, and got results away from home too. Nobody can deny the decline. It's a question of whether Poch can turn it around, something he's not been able to do so far, and frankly I have severe doubts - it's a completely different challenge to coming in and improving the squad which he did from 2014-2017.
 
davidmatzdorf

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I thought Sanchez at right back was OK - much improved. No major defensive problems and some forceful attacking play, albeit without inspiration.

Our problems tonight were about collective lack of focus: passing limply to the opposition and an absence of creativity, the latter mainly due to Eriksen having one of those matches where absolutely nothing he did worked.

The first Olimpiacos goal was just a great ball and a great finish. Their penalty was caused by a criminal degree of fucking around- there were at least three unchallenged opportunities to clear the ball up the pitch, but everyone arsed about.

Olimpiacos are a good team, difficult to play against. On top of our form, we would beat them, but tonight a draw was a fair result.
 
mrlilywhite

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HW61 said:
Question the state of this squad... definately. Not Poch’s fault.

Questions about Poch. Seriously? Be careful what you you wish for. We’ll be changing our manager every year.
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What so Poch is immune to questioning? When a team turns in the performances that we have over the past year, you tend to question the manager. After all, he trains them, plays them and sets the tactics and style he wants them to play.
 
Flobadob

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Let’s be honest here.. this team is stale, very stale. Remember the passion and fight our players used to have and the pride it gave us all? That seems like a long time ago. I genuinely enjoyed watching us more when we were a bit shit in Poch’s first season with Bentaleb, Mason etc in the team. At least those guys seemed to really care. I don’t know what the solution is, if I was paid 10 million a year full time then I reckon I’d be concentrating on finding it and trying a lot of different things. Playing a midfield diamond isn’t one of them. Having Moura play as a striker with Kane where his movement is fucking shocking isn’t one of them. Playing Sanchez at RB where he offers absolutely nothing in an attacking sense definitely isn’t one of them either.

As great as Poch is he does worry me sometimes, his team selections seem to be one or the other.. either stubborn as fuck with playing the same out of form players over and over, using the same one dimensional formation over and over when it’s proven to produce shocking performances. When he does something different it’s often something ridiculous like Son at LWB or Sanchez at RB where one outcome is obvious. To be fair to Sanchez he did alright tonight but tactically he isn’t the right option for that formation or our personnel who love to stand around not moving. A full back that doesn’t overlap in that situation is useless in an attacking sense
 
Saoirse

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Wheeler Dealer said:
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Its been together too long. You now have 2 Belgians over 30 and in last 12 months of contracts 2 left full backs. 1 who is being pissed about and the other with a chronic lack of pace. No trusted RB, so play a gormless centre back there who looks as comfortable as Boris Johnson at a family get together.
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Aurier was superb at the weekend - if he's not trusted I don't see why. And as for the rest, we could if we'd wanted to have spent £150m on it in the summer rather than on Ndombele and GLC. Or we could have not spent £42m on Sanchez who really does not look great. Or we could have sold the ageing CBs 1-2 years ago and reinvested the money. Poch has been here over five years. This is his squad, his decisions, his transfers, his training, ultimately his responsibility.
 
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