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Fergie? Totally different context. He had players who were getting paid at or above market value for a start.
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Fergie? Totally different context. He had players who were getting paid at or above market value for a start.
BringBack_leGin
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Made the huge mistake of clicking, stopped at this bit:
So Sheringham forced Levy’s hand over three years before Enic bought the club, did he?
It’s not an easy mistake to make, before anyone accuses me of being overly pedantic, especially not for someone who’s livelihood depends on his ability to journal football. The hint is in The job title.
As such, like with pretty much every other hatchet piece he writes, I find it impossible to attach any credibility to this mollusc’s words.
I mean, I think we all know who...
Fergie was also able to keep things fresh by regularly renewing the playing squad- Pochettino hasn’t had the same luxury. Things turning stale after years of chronic underinvestment in the squad (relatively speaking) is not surprising and something many of us predicted when it because clear we were not utilising our transfer windows effectively. It was great that we made moves to address that in the summer window but once again we were hampered by bringing players into the squad late and we have been unlucky with injuries. In any case I don’t think it’s a problem that can be solved in just one window- it’s more likely to take 2 or 3 windows (at least) of investing in the correct players.
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Do u disagree with the bit I quoted?
mattyspurs
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Not Danny, he would say it publicly and proud
Shadydan
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That doesn't fit with Rose's way of doing things, he would have come out and said that publicly
BringBack_leGin
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Players currently in the squad who weren’t in the squad until Pochettino’s first transfer window (in order of which window they signed):
Dier, Davies
Dele
Alderweireld, Son
Sissoko, Wanyama
Sanchez, Foyth, Aurier, Gazzaniga
Lucas
Ndombele, Sessegnon, Lo Celso
That’s 15 players (3/5 of the permissible registered squad) in the current squad (this season’s) who have signed during the Pochettino regime, all of whom have either had significant impact or can reasonably be expected to do so moving forward. These players have been signed across 7 of Pochettino’s 11 windows, (and there are of course players who have left to add in as they didn’t make it).
Of those that make up the rest of the current squad (Lloris, KWP, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose, Winks, Skipp, Eriksen, Lamela, Kane, Parrott), all can be described as either proven at a very high level, or possessing great potential to reach a very high level.
You could even make a half decent side from players signed across the Pochettino regime:
Son
Dele _______________ Lucas
Lo Celso Ndombele
Dier
Sessegnon Sanchez Alderweireld Aurier
Gazzaniga
The rhetoric that Pochettino hasn’t been backed is quite frankly wrong. He had one window, summer 18, where he wasn’t given what he needed, that’s plain and obvious, but there is no way this current squad isn’t deep, talented or fresh enough to perform to the level expected. It’s up to him to get a tune out of it.Dele _______________ Lucas
Lo Celso Ndombele
Dier
Sessegnon Sanchez Alderweireld Aurier
Gazzaniga
HildoSpur
Likes Erik Lamela, deal with it.
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It was good to see him talking openly in the most recent press conference however it will not matter one jot if we don't get a result tomorrow and against Bayern. Honestly think he will be gone very soon if the results don't improve.
BringBack_leGin
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Can’t disagree or agree without knowing what he’s said in both directions privately, at this point it’s merely unsubstantiated conjecture.
I thought that at first, but then remembered his comments re the failed Watford transfer where he heavily implied that he was having to keep mum about what really happened.
If not him then I can only think of the Belgians, but it would go against the intense levels of professionalism they’ve always shown. Danny is the only one who has ever shown form for this kind of thing.
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I'm constantly amazed at the pathetic mentality of footballers in general. They are, bye and large, pampered egotistical brats who could seriously do with a dose of reality. They should all have a word with Ryam Mason for that. They don't get what they want and instantly lose the ability to lace on a pair of boots and do what comes naturally to them. It's not like they have to go to work after witnessing horrific car crashes or carry the burden of surgeons or pilots or any number of other professions that simply have to get on with it. Jeez, if the rest of us behaved like them we'd have no emergency services at all and planes would be crashing out of the sky every day of the week and people would be coming out of hospital with the wrong legs or their heads on back to front.
mattyspurs
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Not sticking up for them, but if this is true I can understand it.
Anyone on here who has been a sales manager, or manager in any other industry knows that you have to change methods quite often or things get stale.
When I was a sales manager I used to always find new coaching and training methods as some things only work for so long, you have to mix it up.
I should imagine that the same principals are required in football too?
JUSTINSIGNAL
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Lol funny how we also heard the other day that players were pissed off because ‘there is a different tactical plan’ for each match.
It’s all bullshit IMO. Win the next couple of matches and you don’t hear this shit anymore.
nailsy
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I think the performance this weekend will tell us a lot about this group of players. If they don't come out fighting then we've got a massive problem.
Agreed. I also think if Poch had been given the same money as Mourinho he would have won a trophy by now.
True. But if our players are underpaid compared to other teams how do you keep them here? You need to make sure that they're enjoying training, enjoying playing and feel like they are progressing towards something. It seems that many of the players aren't enjoying training or playing at the moment. Surely it wouldn't hurt to bring in a new coach who might add a bit of variety to training?
Most of those players were signed in Pochettino's first two or three seasons or else in the most recent window. In other words pre/post Wembley. In between our big signings were Sanchez, Aurier and Lucas but we also lost Walker and Dembele. I think overall that weakened us especially in view of how unsettled Alderweireld and Rose have been during that period. Wembley itself was a mitigating factor but the makeup of our squad with Walker, a fit Dembele, a fit Wanyama, a settled Rose and a settled Alderweireld was I feel much better and we were slow in properly replacing them. The club did back Pochettino this summer but because of the deficiencies built up over time it always looked like taking more than one transfer window to fix. We will also have to deal with the issue of replacing Eriksen this summer.
nailsy
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It says long serving, but it doesn't say current player. I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of the players who left in the summer.
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And realistically, what's the difference between having a "win at all costs" manager or a multi-billionaire foreign owner who will splash the cash to buy the title???
Right now I think a lot will take either if it means finally winning something.
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1. Most of those players were not signed early on, in fact, more than half the players I listed were signed summer 2017 or later (so, in the last 5 windows of Pochettino’s 11).
2. Yes we lost Walker and Dembele, if we didn’t lose players in the freshening process we’d end up with many more players than we could register.
3. Dembeles replacements have been Sissoko (bought before Dembele left) and Ndombele (bought the window after Dembele left), not to mention Winks who we’ve watched evolve over several seasons, while Walker’s replacement (Aurier) was bought the same window he left. Slow in replacing?
3. You talk about deficiencies built up over time... I just can’t see where the obvious hole is in our playing personnel when compared to, say, Liverpool, who are all conquering with a midfield usually made up of Henderson, Wijnaldum and Fabinho. They’re superior in some areas, but we are superior in others. The difference is that Liverpool’s manager is getting a tune out of them, ours isn’t.
I continue to maintain that, if Pochettino’s heart is in it, he is talented and able enough to get our squad where it needs to be, but if he doesn’t then that’s on him.
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