Match Threads Spurs vs Bayern Munich - Match Thread

Phomesy said:

Loris had zero chance with any of the goals. Absolutely ridiculous to have a go at him for the scoreline

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Actually just looked at the highlights on BT Sport, on there they were saying he could have done lot better on quite a few of them.
Hugo has habit of staying on his goal line on all occasions, if he positions himself even just a yard or 2 off line would have significantly narrowed angle on a lot of them, and likelihood could have saved, and still been in no danger of being lobbed.

MK Yid said:

Actually just looked at the highlights on BT Sport, on there they were saying he could have done lot better on quite a few of them.
Hugo has habit of staying on his goal line on all occasions, if he positions himself even just a yard or 2 off line would have significantly narrowed angle on a lot of them, and likelihood could have saved, and still been in no danger of being lobbed.

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Bayern's passing as the game went on was superb.we stopped them early but they found new passes and patterns.They were brilliant.
Cant see too much we Lloris he made some nice saves while we were still connected in the game
The backs couldn't hold their superior ball control

So all those that marked my post as disagree or wtf that we look weaker than last season do you still say we looked good?

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heelspurs said:

Think you make good points but come to the wrong conclusion. I have noticed Harry taking fewer shots this season and passing in places where I think he should have a go. And in his last two games he has presses and generally gotten about. But what is different is we don't have possession/control of the ball higher up as we used to have. All this chipping of the ball over the MF doesn't play to his strengths eith. And we don't even get the ball to CE in the hole as we used to do. Although harry has sneaky pace he really isn't going to trouble a backline in behind.

things may change with GLC's ball control/dribble in the hole. And we saw how penetrative quick MF passes can with Ndombele today. He played some balls that have never been played/CE could only wish he could hit. And they were played immediately as the player received the ball with an idea of what the field looked like behind him. GLC is similar ie a real MFer.

So, I don't think Harry has regressed but I do think we haven't played to his strengths because the team as a whole has regressed.

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Kane shines as a number 9 leading the line.

Spends most of his time too deep in the dreaded diamond.

Genuine question.

Would any of our players get in to their team ?


For me only Son for Coman, and Eriksen for Coutinho but even they are marginal.

I know that they were better than us throughout, even in a closely-contested first half when we could've had another goal or two.
I know that their finshing for all of the goals was world class. Beyond clinical.
But seven? Seven? Really?

Good teams beat other teams by big scores. I remember us losing at Anfield 7-0. But we were a newly-promoted team playing the European Cup winners. If we were in the Bundesliga we would be in a CL spot every year; fourth or higher. The best team in the country doesn't score seven goals at the home of another top team. They just don't.

I felt sorry for some of the players today. For Lloris, who had no chance on any of the goals. For our centre-backs, who were left continually exposed by the lack of cover in front and to the sides of them. For the front players, who had to try to make a difference with precious little of the ball. Even, to a greater or lesser degree, for the rest of them. Al least they tried. At least I saw effort for most of the game. But effort isn't enough; it's the bare minimum. That's basically what we got.

A special mention for Aurier. I defended him in the Southampton match thread. I thought his first yellow was debatable and his second wasn't even a foul. But you can't defend the indefensible. His poor defending - specifically his terrible positioning - was directly responsible for at least two of their goals and he was extremely lucky to stay on the pitch when he jumped 'over' the Bayern player and - in my opinion - intentionally landed on him with both feet. It would have been no surprise if we had been playing with ten for the second successive game; and god knows what the score would have been then. In a game when nobody can be said to have played well, in a game that Winks chose to have the worst performance of his life, Aurier was head and shoulders the worst one out there.

I've no idea what the cub was thinking when Trippier wasn't replaced, but Aurier surely can't play again. He's a catastrophe waiting to happen. I don't care who we put in at right back; KWP, Sissoke, Dier, even Davison Sanchez, as long as Aurier never gets on the pitch again.

One step forward against Southampton. Five steps back against Bayern.

We played at the Lane for over one hundred years and never - I repeat, never - conceded seven. It's taken us less than six months to do it in our new home. I've been supporting Spurs since the sixties and this is the first - and hopefully the last - time that I have ever been embarrassed to be a Spurs fan.

For shame.

soflapaul said:

As much as i love Toby and Verts, they are a step slower. I'd love to see the stats but without a DM in front of them, it seems to me they are brought under pressure more often than in years past. Add to that the lack of the team tracking back consistently as a group and the mistakes made by the outside defenders whether we play 3 or 4 in the back, you get the results that we saw tonight. I had hoped Aurier had turned the corner but this performance shows one of our biggest offseason mistakes was not to bring in a proven right side defender. KWP or JF may turn out to be the real deal, but they aren't ready to play in games of this magnitude in my opinion.

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Should have sold Aurier for 20M added 10M and bought Wan B from CP

Wsussexspur said:

And does fuck all to motivate his team mates!

When each of the Bayern goals went in during the second half. All Lloris did was shrug his shoulders and shuffled his feet and stared at the ground. A captain should be trying to pick the team up!

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I agree the captain should never be the goalkeeper as he’s not involved in the outfield play. I’m not that keen on the captain being the CF either.

Oh great, this actually happened.

Still, on a positive note. Nothing.

Langers said:

It would be extremely prudent to start looking for a new manager now. Poch deserves until Christmas to turn this around, but for me, then the goodwill runs out. No away win for nearly a year, humiliation in the Champions league, most goals conceded at home in our 137 year history, it is not acceptable!

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Don’t forget how embarrassing Colchester was...

7 fcking goals. Work is going to be fun.

I’m no expert in man management but when you’re down 4-2 and you have a goal threat in Lucas and 2 fighters in Lamela and Dier on the bench but instead wait until 64 mins to bring on a contract rebel who’s in the worst form of his career in Eriksen I doubt it inspires much confidence

Well that wasn't much fun.

MK Yid said:

Genuine question.

Would any of our players get in to their team ?


For me only Son for Coman, and Eriksen for Coutinho but even they are marginal.

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Eriksen for Coutinho? lol, mate, Eriksen would be lucky to get into ANY team in the bundesliga/prem the way he is playing.

The final 10mins put a horrible slant on the score line that makes it all look far worse than it actually was. They clinically punished us for pushing to try and get back in the game at 4-2 but there is no way that match deserved to be a 7-2.

I haven’t re-watched it to see if the tv coverage looked different to at the game but I thought the first half was our best half of the season so far we pressed, we moved the ball quickly, we created lots of chances and it’s only due to some top saves by Neuer that we didn’t go in ahead at HT.

2nd half they killed the tempo early with a few dives and rolling around then hit us with 2 quick goals but we pushed again, got a goal back and went for it with attacking subs. Yes we got punished for pushing too hard/high but how would people have reacted if at 4-2 Poch had shut up shop to keep it to a respectable 2 goal defeat.

Bayern were clinical and their finishing was so sharp but people are massively overreacting based on the score line rather than the performance. I know people don’t like xG but it paints a much more even picture of the game based on chances created.

Woke up like a kid on Christmas day checking if Poch has been sacked. No presents for me this year... Again.

sebo_sek said:

I think for the first time I would welcome it. He could do well here. Get things organised and DEMAND investment. He also knows how to get rid of dead wood. Plus he is still a bigger draw than Poch and is a winner.

Poch has really fucked himself. 8 million a year and he talks about leaving? Only himself to blame.

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im still on the fence tnh.

Just sayin'