fortworthspur
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I agree we're fucked but we have Toby and Verts replacements already. Might as well play them since this season is looking more and more like a write-off anyway.
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The Mauricio Pochettino thread
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fishhhandaricecake
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Only thing to do is get redknapp, crouch, Defoe and Kranckjar back ??
mrlilywhite
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Yeah, it wasn't the losing part that got me - it was more in the way of the manner of the defeat. If ever there was a clear message of players making a point, then that was it. Poch must go imo, not just because of the spoiled little brats pretending to be spurs players, but also the complete one-dimensional approach poch has to the game. I don't give a shit how many Poch lovers will be butthurt over what I'm about to say, but Poch is a very limited manager. I mean if his system doesn't work, we look totally lost and no clear direction on how to solve it. I seriously can not believe just how basic poch is. He hasn't learned anything since his Espaynol and Southhampton days about tactical flexibility.
Ask any Saints fan about Poch and they will say the same thing - Counter press fantastic when it works, when it doesn't he doesn't have an alternate approach.
i get it ben but would rather go with bare bones, youth and guts then lads looking for a big pay day
CheeseGromit
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Having read Hercs comments I think it is obvious that the issue is that it is almost impossible for Poch to be brave as he will be going against Daniel and that is never a good thing. I think Poch is trying to bridge what Levy gives him against the expectation of the fans the chairman and the players
I would profer that the problem is with the players but not because they initially wanted away but because Poch didn’t want them. That is an impossible situation for Poch because he has to play them as they are the better players even if doesn’t want them
DL is probably the reason we are in the mess as we have players we don’t want and haven’t got players we did want
We really did have to change our style
I would profer that the problem is with the players but not because they initially wanted away but because Poch didn’t want them. That is an impossible situation for Poch because he has to play them as they are the better players even if doesn’t want them
DL is probably the reason we are in the mess as we have players we don’t want and haven’t got players we did want
We really did have to change our style
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poc
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We need to act decisively while our stock is still reasonable we just cannot afford blind loyalty and act when it's too late. If we can get a good manager in we should change the manager. I honestly don't see what else we could do. Stop playing 5-6 of our best players? Just not gonna happen.watchimg poch on the sideline today he just looked like he didn't have a clue what to.do. this was the perfect game to save his job and get a response, he blew it.
Danny1
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Which is a worry in itself. I give Sissoko amazing credit for becoming the player he has, however he isn’t good enough for a top 3 premier league side and we rely on him!
Chelsea have spent millions and millions on a massive group of players including millions on top young players over the last decade.
do you think it is luck that they have all these top young players???? No it is money.
Levy spent money on RS, JC and TN and a loan with option for glc. That is nothing with all the players looking to leave and lack of investment in recent years.
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Regarding Poch not being backed, this was Hoddle's quote before the CL final. He also reiterated 'for a fact' a couple of times. I know I'm repeating myself, but surely it's not complete horshshit from Hoddle. Why would he along with various ITK at the time make it up?
Hoddle on Pochettino
He’s done - doing - a fantastic job. That’s easy to say but he is. You can tell how close he is with the players and the players, how they respect him. And you know what? You’ve got to say, they haven’t gone out and spent a thing. Not because there wasn’t money. He decided that he didn’t want to buy in those two windows.
So that's Poch not wanting to buy in the 2 windows that he 'wasn't backed'. How long are fans and pundits going to keep ignoring this? And if is true, it's just another problem he's brought on himself.
Hoddle on Pochettino
He’s done - doing - a fantastic job. That’s easy to say but he is. You can tell how close he is with the players and the players, how they respect him. And you know what? You’ve got to say, they haven’t gone out and spent a thing. Not because there wasn’t money. He decided that he didn’t want to buy in those two windows.
So that's Poch not wanting to buy in the 2 windows that he 'wasn't backed'. How long are fans and pundits going to keep ignoring this? And if is true, it's just another problem he's brought on himself.
dondo
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Rubbish.
For Eriksen we have lamela or Dele and soon GLC
For Toby we have Sanchez, Foyth or Tanganga.
For Rose we have Davies and soon Sessegnon
For Aurier we have KWP or Foyth or Dier.
I really can’t see why Pochettino is still picking these players when they don’t want to be here and some seem to have given up
Mr Pink
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Yeah, but why is it taking so long for him to act in this regard?
I'm just really perplexed. After going out to Colchester, humiliated by Bayern I was expecting a massive reaction today.
Surely he's worked out by now who's prepared to give their all. I mean ffs, it seems like there's another excuse rolled out every week with a new proposed idea to sort it... Like drop certain big players.
I mean, come on, he sees them in training every fucking day.
The bottom line is they've been under performing for months and in the last few weeks it's got worse when you'd expect him to of worked out what to do in terms of at least picking a team that's going to give its all.
Poch is the only one who's capable of judging that, but it's the same slow tempo stuff every week.
And that's another thing, we've become extremely boring to watch.
It's just gone on too long for me and he's still got a hugely talented squad at his disposal.
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Ultimately, we have no control over what happens - even if people disagree in their opinion on the way forward, every single person on here only wants the best for the club.
JayB
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Shocking to suggest that Poch “isn’t a manager.” You mean to say that the bloke who’s taken us four consecutive top four finishes, not to mention a CL final, with a fraction of the investment of the other clubs vying for those places isn’t even a manager at all? Come off it.
We saw some signs that Poch was willing to change things today. The reversion to a 4-2-3-1 and the restoration of a DM to the side suggest that he’s seen that the diamond needed to be binned. Problem was that the only DM he had to choose from has barely played in a year and was miles off the pace, and the team witnessed its captain suffer a horrifically gruesome injury/gift the other team the lead in the first three minutes, which seemed to just compound the feelings left over from Bayern.
I wouldn’t be shocked or even disappointed if he were sacked now, but if he does stay I think there are some signs he’s going to change things tactically from here on. The question is whether he can find players to implement the tactics who will actually play for him.
Shadydan
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Rose and Aurier (who didn't play today)
Toby - even though he is off has remained professional.
Verts?
That's it?
problem mate has been injuries (small and big)
Lamela can't play more than a game a week/ Dele injuries this whole year/ GLC bad luck to get the int injury
Foyth injured all season, Sanchez small injuries as with Davies and Sessegnon and of course Dier.
It's the nightmare of all who want to stay getting injured and all who want to leave being fit!
But hopefully after int break IF Poch is here he will have a full group and will be BRAVE
Everlasting Seconds
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Dude, take a chill pill. He himself told all media that he is not a manager, but a coach. I was referring to his own words.
Honestly, log off and go for a refreshing walk.
mrbrightside73
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Who thinks if Jose had had the Spurs team Poch had, he’d have beaten Leicester to the Prem title in 15/16? I do.
Danny1
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Agree completely. I guess it’s all about the allegiances. Top clubs (baring Utd with SAF) don’t stay loyal to those who are failing miserably at their job. That is what Poch has done since Xmas, completely failed.
Even with SAF he was in his last season when he managed to turn it around. But all other top clubs remove the cause of the problem and try to make things better. Personally I believe that’s what we should do to move forward and I’d rather do it now and let a new person take the helm, assess the squad and make their changes in January.
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List of preferences:
Love Spurs, always will.
Like Poch. He’s certainly shown some magic and passion for this club. Would prefer him to stay because I still think he’s been thrown under a bus over the past two years.
Increasingly Dislike the players: Let the club down with their self interested gutless egos. As per one ITK the players agents are spitting out poison like they have some kind of moral fibre in their bones. Everything that’s bad in the game.
Dislike Levy. He’s not there to be liked I know. Simply don’t like how he does things and his reputation. Some defend him saying he does what’s best for Spurs. Wrong - he does what’s best for his investment and pockets.
The hardest part is because of my love of Spurs, the one I like most in Poch will be the one to go. As much as I hope Herc’s wishes and hopes come true, I’m sure Poch won’t succeed now.
Love Spurs, always will.
Like Poch. He’s certainly shown some magic and passion for this club. Would prefer him to stay because I still think he’s been thrown under a bus over the past two years.
Increasingly Dislike the players: Let the club down with their self interested gutless egos. As per one ITK the players agents are spitting out poison like they have some kind of moral fibre in their bones. Everything that’s bad in the game.
Dislike Levy. He’s not there to be liked I know. Simply don’t like how he does things and his reputation. Some defend him saying he does what’s best for Spurs. Wrong - he does what’s best for his investment and pockets.
The hardest part is because of my love of Spurs, the one I like most in Poch will be the one to go. As much as I hope Herc’s wishes and hopes come true, I’m sure Poch won’t succeed now.
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