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Harry Winks - Leicester City

WiganSpur

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I feel like Winks is now at an age where he needs to take greater responsibility for his performances. He's an 8 rather than a 6, but that still doesn't excuse such a low level of performance. Some really poor give aways and too weak in the midfield battle.
 

dtxspurs

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Genuinely curious to think of what premier league clubs he would actually start for.
 

King of Otters

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It’s sad because he’s actually a good all around footballer but he possesses no discernible skill to actually hurt the opposition.

Maybe in the right system he’d work, but even then I’m not sure. I don’t think he’s quite good enough technically to make up for his lack of physicality. He’s tidy technically, but you need to be outstanding to make it at the top as a smaller player.
 

dontcallme

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I feel like Winks is now at an age where he needs to take greater responsibility for his performances. He's an 8 rather than a 6, but that still doesn't excuse such a low level of performance. Some really poor give aways and too weak in the midfield battle.
Agree. If he is to have a career he needs to step up a lot.

At the moment the manager seems more comfortable slowly integrating Ndombele and Lo Celso while Dier is also getting back to fitness.

If Winks doesn't show he can be trusted to perform then in no time at all he will find himself very far down the pecking order.
 

Trotter

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He has regressed.

For the level we want to be at, it appears that he isn't up to it.

Not sure he has regressed, personally don’t think he has ever been at the level required.

Can only think of about 2 matches where he has been any better than average in his whole time here, and many where he has been well below average. His integration into team, in many ways out of necessity, corresponds perfectly with the clubs downturn in performances and results.
 

bubble07

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Problem I'd mourinho wont drop him as the media will consistently remind him that he dropped a young English player from the academy.

Winks is a good player and so is Sissoko but together they are not. The recruitment staff need to find someone to play alongside Ndombele in a 2.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I'm actually starting to worry a bit about what happens at the academy. Apart from Kane, which I still think was a fluke in the first place, the academy only produces physically weak, very lean, almost lanky, "tidy" (what does tidy even mean) players who just don't really cut it. Carroll, Mason, Walker-Peters, Skipp, Onomah, and Winks all seem to be fundamentally struggling with the same deficit when it comes to brute force. Arguably Bentaleb didn't, and I suppose Tanganga doesn't. Kane did when he first burst onto the scene but that certainly changed in the senior setup. I did have expectations to Winks as the only youth player I actually thought would go places, but I must sadly realise that I'm starting to think that Winks also will become rather forgettable too.
 

dtxspurs

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I'm actually starting to worry a bit about what happens at the academy. Apart from Kane, which I still think was a fluke in the first place, the academy only produces physically weak, very lean, almost lanky, "tidy" (what does tidy even mean) players who just don't really cut it. Carroll, Mason, Walker-Peters, Skipp, Onomah, and Winks all seem to be fundamentally struggling with the same deficit when it comes to brute force. Arguably Bentaleb didn't, and I suppose Tanganga doesn't. Kane did when he first burst onto the scene but that certainly changed in the senior setup. I did have expectations to Winks as the only youth player I actually thought would go places, but I must sadly realise that I'm starting to think that Winks also will become rather forgettable too.
Honestly though, what academies have pumped out more useful players to their first team squad than Winks, Kane & KWP in the last however many years? Chelsea only this year have seen any sort of benefit. Man City have 1? Liverpool? Arsenal? United have Rashford & McTominay?

Its just the fact that England doesn't produce endless amounts of talent where our academy is going to pump out 1-2 legit talents good enough for us every year.
 

Primativ

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I see more people are coming round to the fact that he is nowhere near good enough. A painfully average player who gets overrated because he’s from the academy.

If he continues to start in CM for us we will continue to be a bang average side.
 

Joely

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I'm hoping and think Mourinho will slowly phase him out of the team. He is a trier but isn't good enough. Think he can carve out a decent career at a midtable or below club as a water carrier. Need to stop persisting with guys from the academy who are clearly not good enough. Look at Liverpool....they've loaned out Harry Wilson with what sounds like the purpose of pushing his value up so they can cash in on him as they don't feel he is good enough for their team. Scored a couple of goals for Bournemouth and bet they still sell him. Bored of us persisting with so called talent from our academy such as Winks and KWP who are distinctly average players at best.
 

nasescoba1985

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He’s basically Modric lite. Really nice on the ball and carries the ball very well, but that’s where it ends. Modric on the other hand would offer so much defensively and offensively, which is the difference between a real top class midfielder with ability, to an average midfielder with ability. Harry Winks has the ball ability, but just doesn’t offer any threat whatsoever and doesn’t offer any protection either. Not good enough boys sorry.
 

dtxspurs

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He’s basically Modric lite. Really nice on the ball and carries the ball very well, but that’s where it ends. Modric on the other hand would offer so much defensively and offensively, which is the difference between a real top class midfielder with ability, to an average midfielder with ability. Harry Winks has the ball ability, but just doesn’t offer any threat whatsoever and doesn’t offer any protection either. Not good enough boys sorry.
See, I don’t even think he’s really nice on the ball or have the “ball abilities”
 

Dirtysanchez6

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He’s basically Modric lite. Really nice on the ball and carries the ball very well, but that’s where it ends. Modric on the other hand would offer so much defensively and offensively, which is the difference between a real top class midfielder with ability, to an average midfielder with ability. Harry Winks has the ball ability, but just doesn’t offer any threat whatsoever and doesn’t offer any protection either. Not good enough boys sorry.
Sorry mate but please don’t dis Luka like this ? It’s even a myth about winks in the ball how many times does he take at least 5 touches before making a simple 5 yard pass constantly goes backwards and sideways his passing ability is a myth he doesn’t even have a long switch of play in his locker
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Singling Winks out after every player bar possibly Sanchez was poor is agenda driven nonsense. When Jose’s tactics are basically to bypass the midfield by making the centre backs and goalkeeper hoof the ball at every opportunity I really don’t understand what Winks is supposed to do. He’s a player who is ideal for a team that wants to keep possession, not for watching the ball going over his head and fighting for knock downs.

Comparing his performance to NDombele who came on when the match was already lost and there was more space on the pitch is ridiculous as well. And despite this Tanguy still looked like he was fucked after 10 minutes!
 
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