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Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

Spence167

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No way sky and bt would allow the season to finish now.
We’ll be play figures in June with mid week games as well.
FA cup might get sacked off though

I don't think they play them in June. Clubs and countries will kick off about players not getting enough rest for Euro 2020.
 

WiganSpur

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If they just call the season off and hand Liverpool the title it will always be remembered as the "The Corona Title". Of course Liverpool has already practically won it even if it is theoretically possible that they wouldn't if all the remaining matches were played.

If this were Spurs I'd be extremely disappointed. Not having an official closure and a 'definitive' title winning match.
Prolonging the season well in to the summer has huge ramifications on the transfer window and the next season so that's a tricky road to go down.
It's the least disruptive way by far but does assume this will clear up by mid summer I suppose. UEFA can define a special transfer window and any signings can only be eligible to play in the following season etc.

The only problem concerns the legal implications of players leaving on free transfers. But I guess with sufficient time to plan, clubs will have to suck it up by doing without those who leave on July 1 or offering them 1 year deals. We'd have that dilemma with Jan Vertonghen for example.
 

rossdapep

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I don't think they will, I think they will void the season. There was still domestic and European cups to play.
...and you just know City would make a legal case that they still had a chance to win the title, especially if they are being investigated against.

This would then be repeated throughout the league. Wolves, Spurs, Sheff Utd and Arsenal would all state the league was not over and you can't just give it to Chelsea and United as there were still 9 games to play.

The teams in the relegation places would do the same. The teams out of the promotion places and on and on....

On that basis they may have more of a leg to stand on stating that they will just make the campaign null and void. Like they do when a game is postponed in the 70th minute even with a team winning.
 

WiganSpur

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...and you just know City would make a legal case that they still had a chance to win the title, especially if they are being investigated against.

This would then be repeated throughout the league. Wolves, Spurs, Sheff Utd and Arsenal would all state the league was not over and you can't just give it to Chelsea and United as there were still 9 games to play.

The teams in the relegation places would do the same. The teams out of the promotion places and on and on....

On that basis they may have more of a leg to stand on stating that they will just make the campaign null and void. Like they do when a game is postponed in the 70th minute even with a team winning.
I don't see how they could void it without legal action too. The only way of voiding it 'fairly' would be to effectively start this season again in terms of European competition and promotion relegation etc. Can't see Liverpool and Leeds being too happy about that.

There's pretty much no choice but to finish the season then start the next immediately after no matter how delayed it might be.
 

Japhet

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It's not mathematically impossible. If Liverpool were to lose all the remainder of their games and Man City won all theirs City would win the title by 5 points. Liverpool are on 82 points having played 29 games, City are on 57 points having played 28

Which was my point.
 

George94

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This may tell you what could happen if the rest of the season is cancelled.


Unless the season continues exactly from where it left off at some point, the only fair solution for every single club is to scrap this season and start over. No relegation, no promotion.

You can't just go with the current standings in the table because there's still a lot to play for - even Liverpool can mathematically be caught, albeit extremely unlikely.

You can't relegate teams that still have a chance of staying up, and you can't promote teams, when there's still other teams who can catch them.

A play-off system also wouldn't be fair on Leicester, for example, who have a point advantage over the chasing pack for the top 4. They could lose to Sheffield United in the play offs and lose out on top 4, despite being 10 points ahead of them currently.

Having said that, it'd also be extremely unfair on Leicester if next season the teams who played in the Champions League this season were given their places back for next season to start over. (Funny for us, though.)

There is no perfect solution - it all depends on how we as a nation deal with this, because the longer this virus spreads, and the more people get infected, decreases the chance of this season carrying on from where it left off, IMO.
 
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fletch82

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If this season gets classed void and liverpool dont get the title as wrong as it would be I will literally piss myself laughing in to oblivion.
 

rossdapep

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If we are to look at The Chinese Super League we may get some idea of what could happen.

They suspended their league on 30th January (6 weeks ago) and they are still in suspension. It's looking likely that they are still weeks away from resuming their season.

Whilst China has the worst cases, they have been in quarantine for a long time too. If the UK is going to 'carry on as usual' and take the 'herd immunity' approach, surely that means we'll be in this situation for weeks or maybe months?

Therefore I can't see the season resuming within the next 3-4 months.

But then again we have no idea how this is going to play out. We could be sat here in July with still a number of cases being recorded.
 

WiganSpur

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Unless the season continues exactly from where it left off at some point, the only fair solution for every single club is to scrap this season and start over. No relegation, no promotion.

You can't just go with the current standings in the table because there's still a lot to play for - even Liverpool can mathematically be caught, albeit extremely unlikely.

You can't relegate teams that still have a chance of staying up, and you can't promote teams, when there's still other teams who can catch them.

A play-off system also wouldn't be fair on Leicester, for example, who have a point advantage over the chasing pack for the top 4. They could lose to Sheffield United in the play offs and lose out on top 4, despite being 10 points ahead of them currently.

Having said that, it'd also be extremely unfair on Leicester if next season the teams who played in the Champions League this season were given their places back for next season to start over. (Funny for us, though.)

There is no perfect solution - it all depends on how we as a nation deal with this, because the longer this virus spreads, and the more people get infected, decreases the chance of this season carrying on from where it left off, IMO.
Another problem with voiding the current season and basing promotion/relegation and Europe off 18/19 standings is stuff like CL money. Spurs for example would benefit greatly from effectively doubling their CL revenue. Not really fair.
 

chrissivad

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Unfortunately for you it is a fact, pal. Stop trolling and do some research. You've made yourself look a fool.

It's not a fact.
People are putting out scenario on what could happen

This is from eurosport

There is “no specific regulation in place” should the full 38-game season not be completed, and, were such a situation to occur, crisis talks would be required to decide whether the campaign would be voided.
 

rossdapep

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Another problem with voiding the current season and basing promotion/relegation and Europe off 18/19 standings is stuff like CL money. Spurs for example would benefit greatly from effectively doubling their CL revenue. Not really fair.
I agree but then I remember Lasagne gate and when Arsenal bribed the board to take our place in the league all them years ago and I think 'fuck it'
 

Haddock

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I was wondering what Liverpool fans say and I wasn't disappointed.

From RAWK:

"We're trying to enjoy our lives, but this Wuhan bollox is pissing on our chips."
 

George94

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Another problem with voiding the current season and basing promotion/relegation and Europe off 18/19 standings is stuff like CL money. Spurs for example would benefit greatly from effectively doubling their CL revenue. Not really fair.

Which is why the only perfect scenario would be to continue to season from where it was a left. But I can only see the situation in this country getting worse, we've been too slow to act and we've already lost control of it. It's everywhere and spreading.

For example, would the Premier League continue this season where it left off in September, if it took that long to sort this virus out? Going into next season and pushing everything back months? Bare in mind the Euros are more than likely going to be pushed back a year - so we can't play 8 games from September, have a break and pre season and start the next season in December! That'll mean next season won't finish until around July at the earliest - so how's that going to work with Euro 2021?

The more I think about it, I can honestly see leagues across Europe scrapping their whole campaigns and replaying them from scratch next season.
 

SpartanSpur

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Unless the season continues exactly from where it left off at some point, the only fair solution for every single club is to scrap this season and start over. No relegation, no promotion.

You can't just go with the current standings in the table because there's still a lot to play for - even Liverpool can mathematically be caught, albeit extremely unlikely.

You can't relegate teams that still have a chance of staying up, and you can't promote teams, when there's still other teams who can catch them.

A play-off system also wouldn't be fair on Leicester, for example, who have a point advantage over the chasing pack for the top 4. They could lose to Sheffield United in the play offs and lose out on top 4, despite being 10 points ahead of them currently.

Having said that, it'd also be extremely unfair on Leicester if next season the teams who played in the Champions League this season were given their places back for next season to start over. (Funny for us, though.)

There is no perfect solution - it all depends on how we as a nation deal with this, because the longer this virus spreads, and the more people get infected, decreases the chance of this season carrying on from where it left off, IMO.

It's an absolute mess to try and work through. Voiding due to global health crisis/force majeure may actually end up being the neatest of the lot.

There are so many arguments either way:-

Some could say it's fair to take current standings, as every game matters, it's hard to argue you would try harder week 33 than week 12 for example. However the obvious counter argument there is that it's not a level playing field as fixtures are not the same across all teams. We've played Utd and Arsenal away but had home games to come for example.

Same goes for behind closed doors, it's not a fair playing field if one team has the benefit of home support and the reverse fixture doesn't.

The sensible plan is to postpone the Euros to 2021 and give the league until July to complete it's fixtures, but until we see how the outbreak develops we have no idea if that will even be possible. Maybe enough to ensure Liverpool win a title but not enough to ensure everything else, all of which have huge financial implications.

I'll be surprised if the suspension doesn't get extended past the current date for starters.

On the Spurs front it could be a huge blessing on many fronts. Players come back fit, no Euros disruption, Jose gets more time on the training pitch and even potential CL football if the season is voided or we finish the season strongly and get 4/5th.
 

WiganSpur

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Which is why the only perfect scenario would be to continue to season from where it was a left. But I can only see the situation in this country getting worse, we've been too slow to act and we've already lost control of it. It's everywhere and spreading.

For example, would the Premier League continue this season where it left off in September, if it took that long to sort this virus out? Going into next season and pushing everything back months? Bare in mind the Euros are more than likely going to be pushed back a year - so we can't play 8 games from September, have a break and pre season and start the next season in December!
I think we'd have to do that mate.

If we say resume 19/20 in early September, finish it by third week of October. Start the next season early November and play till mid to late June. That would mean no Euro 21.

Basically, the earlier we can get players back on the pitch, the more chance there is of Euro 21 is the way I see it.
 
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