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Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June

Shadydan

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What happens if a player or coach or physio or the tea lady becomes ill? Everyone back in isolation? Until a vaccine or treatment is found that’s what’ll happen. In addition you have vital ambulance services (and police) at football stadia that are needed elsewhere. It's totally selfish and arrogant.

The football world is pretending that they're in control of a situation that is way beyond their control. It's pointless making any plans for sport until this pandemic has greatly subsided.

Without attempting to try and justify any of this but reading the article it sounds like if football clubs don't complete the season there's going to be quite a few of them going into administration or be in trouble as they rely on TV money ad they are already losing match day revenue...still that doesn't explain why UEFA have to finish off the Champions League or Europa League.

The whole thing is a mess.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Money is, on the whole, digital now - just numbers on spreadsheets. I'm starting to wonder if the best response to this sort of thing is to treat it as exactly that and change nothing about how we go about our day and the government are there to pick up the absolute bottom of the chain - the consumer.

The hardest hit sectors of society right now are going to be public services of all kinds that rely on over the counter or through the turnstyles to exist - everything that surrounds those industries are secondary victims because they can't get paid if the consumer isn't giving them the means, so if the income that would've been in through the gates can be insured in some way then the chain doesn't get broken.

Instead, the government have gone for a blanket approach, trying to prop up all levels of the chain at once in every sector - does it really need to be doing that? If you had a snooker table and wanted all the balls down the other end, you only have to lift it at one point to make that happen and if you do it in the right place it has a huge effect. You don't get three people to all lift the table at different heights at different points, yet that's what we're trying to do.

We need to step back now the initial panic has dried up a bit, take stock of the actual situation in front of us and start encouraging the chain to breath again - let the clubs figure out how to get that income flowing again; esports events, online sales and offers, concerts, any sort of entertainment that people will tune in to and will warrant money coming back into the coffers, but it has to come from consumers. It's all well and good rerouting the income of a million businesses onto a life support system temporarily but the economy will die if it's not fed and it's not being fed, it's struggling by on a bag of crisps every few days that get more stale by the day.
 

Marantz

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Football clubs are a business. Just like restaurants, bars, clothing stores etc that will go bankrupt some football clubs will as well. We will have life before and after Covid-19. When this is over (and hopefully it will end) a new season will start. Hopefully with all the same teams as before but it´s very unlikely. The longer this drags on we will see football clubs going bankrupt from the lower leagues all the way up to the premier league. The government can help but that may not be enough for all clubs.
 

spursfan77

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This is the thing that will break modern football. It’s going to be hard for them to continue living the bubble that they do post this pandemic

Will it? I’m not sure how. It will just return to normal surely?
 

$hoguN

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Will it? I’m not sure how. It will just return to normal surely?
there is going to be a huge loss of finance from sponsors, people may not be willing to continue their TV subscriptions due to the hit on peoples wages, the government might introduce emergency taxes against clubs, changes to the tax system may close loopholes meaning that players aren’t able to keep as much of their salary, public perception too

It’s going to be different for sure
 

spursfan77

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there is going to be a huge loss of finance from sponsors, people may not be willing to continue their TV subscriptions due to the hit on peoples wages, the government might introduce emergency taxes against clubs, changes to the tax system may close loopholes meaning that players aren’t able to keep as much of their salary, public perception too

It’s going to be different for sure

I'm sceptical, but lets see. Things maybe different for a short bit but long term I think it will return to the status quo.
 

Saoirse

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There is fundamentally an incomptability between football as we know and love it, and free-market capitalism. The free market assumes that consumers are rational, and base their decisions based on efficiency. But that just isn't true with football. If Tottenham one day went bankrupt, we wouldn't shrug our shoulders and support someone else instead. So there ends up being an immense pressure to save the businesses, even when they've over-extended themselves, been run awfully, and from a market perspective deserve to die. Football likes to exploit this irrational loyalty, but at the same time refuses to acknoledge the consequences of it in a situation like this.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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I'm sceptical, but lets see. Things maybe different for a short bit but long term I think it will return to the status quo.
I think returning to the status quo, may take longer than expected. I make this assumption based on that the current unprecedented situation is not just confined to the UK and Premier League and it's a worldwide issue that will have wider ramifications and consequences on a global scale. The liquidity available in world football will be massively impacted, that will probably lead to the fittest thriving and weak dying, but the whole landscape will be different for all concerned impacting players, supporters, owners, sponsors, staff...etc etc
 
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We haven't even begun to cross the bridge of having front line emergency services at all these football matches while the fight continues globally on the Covid front - those at the top really are treading dangerous ground in that respect.

The greed of man.
 

chrissivad

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It was acknowledged that the Premier League will not resume at the beginning of May – and that the 2019/20 season will only return when it is safe and appropriate to do so. The restart date is under constant review with all stakeholders, as the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic develops and we work together through this very challenging time.

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Discussions also took place regarding financial relief for clubs in the short term and while there is no single solution, measures are to be put in place to immediately deal with the impact of falling cash flow. Critically, the League unanimously voted to advance funds of £125 million to the EFL and National League as it is aware of the severe difficulties clubs throughout the football pyramid are suffering at this time.
 

allatsea

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It was acknowledged that the Premier League will not resume at the beginning of May – and that the 2019/20 season will only return when it is safe and appropriate to do so. The restart date is under constant review with all stakeholders, as the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic develops and we work together through this very challenging time.

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Discussions also took place regarding financial relief for clubs in the short term and while there is no single solution, measures are to be put in place to immediately deal with the impact of falling cash flow. Critically, the League unanimously voted to advance funds of £125 million to the EFL and National League as it is aware of the severe difficulties clubs throughout the football pyramid are suffering at this time.
Was rather shocked to find the FA/PL have so much money lying around they are able to make such large donations. Why do they have such sums of money and why wasn’t it put to good use before now ?
 

tobi

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We haven't even begun to cross the bridge of having front line emergency services at all these football matches while the fight continues globally on the Covid front - those at the top really are treading dangerous ground in that respect.

The greed of man.

No matter how inconsiderate it looks the conversation has to take place and every feasible scenario looked at.

Some will say what instantly comes to mind like the person that suggested finishing the season in China despite FIFA banning that months ago.

These people don't help themselves because they aren't good at keeping the details of private meetings behind closed doors.
 

Shadydan

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No matter how inconsiderate it looks the conversation has to take place and every feasible scenario looked at.

Some will say what instantly comes to mind like the person that suggested finishing the season in China despite FIFA banning that months ago.

These people don't help themselves because they aren't good at keeping the details of private meetings behind closed doors.

Yeah i don't think that was real
 

LeParisien

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This virus has been very good for us relative to other clubs. Time for Mourinho to reflect. Injuries back when football restarts. Chance of our shitty season being cancelled but in any case the season reset will happen quicker. Time for that chubby guy to lose weight.

This is bad for all clubs but less bad for us than anyone else.
 

Yiddo100

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Was rather shocked to find the FA/PL have so much money lying around they are able to make such large donations. Why do they have such sums of money and why wasn’t it put to good use before now ?
It’s seems as if the efl and national league were going to get the money anyway, they’ve just fast tracked it due to Coronavirus
 

coys200

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I’ve sadly found football approach quite soul destroying. Every other major sport has made sensible respectable decisions. The Olympics hung on as long as they could but in the end even they made the right decision. I’ve loved football for as long as I can remember. I’ve gone to WHL since I was 7 or 8. But right now my head is telling me I’ve had enough and fo walk away. Unfortunately my heart will probably suck me back in. But right now I’m pretty disappointed and disgusted but everything football has currently done.
 
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No matter how inconsiderate it looks the conversation has to take place and every feasible scenario looked at.

Some will say what instantly comes to mind like the person that suggested finishing the season in China despite FIFA banning that months ago.

These people don't help themselves because they aren't good at keeping the details of private meetings behind closed doors.
While I don't disagree, we live in a world where every man and his dog wants transparency - there will always be someone willing to offer it - especially if it benefits them some way.
 

spursfan77

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This virus has been very good for us relative to other clubs. Time for Mourinho to reflect. Injuries back when football restarts. Chance of our shitty season being cancelled but in any case the season reset will happen quicker. Time for that chubby guy to lose weight.

This is bad for all clubs but less bad for us than anyone else.

Hence effecting the integrity of the competition.
 

joelstinton14

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Statement from Burnley Football Club:

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Further to the Premier League statement released post the Premier League Shareholders meeting held on Friday 3rd April, Burnley FC is keen to be transparent with supporters, staff and stakeholders and is therefore able to confirm that due to the continued suspension of Premier League games this presents some significant challenges for the football club.

Burnley FC are set to lose around £5 million in lost revenue from the remaining home games which in the event that the season finishes would be unlikely to be recouped owing to the likely prospect of these fixtures being played behind closed doors.

In addition, the Clarets face missing out cash payments from the Premier League of up to £45 million in broadcasting revenue and other items if the season is not finished. It is believed that other clubs could be looking at up to a £100m shortfall.


Commenting on this Burnley FC Chairman, Mike Garlick said: “It’s a completely unprecedented situation that we and other Premier League Clubs face and which we could not have foreseen in anyway only just a few weeks ago.

“It’s now not just about Burnley or any other individual club anymore, it’s about the whole football ecosystem from the Premier League downwards and all the other businesses and communities that feed from that ecosystem.

“As a club, as fans, as staff members and as a town we are all in this together and I’m sure we can get through this by sticking together and helping each other in every way possible in these tough times.

“We all need to do our bit, however small, together as One Club.”
 

spursfan77

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Statement from Burnley Football Club:

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I wonder how much we make on a match day and stand to lose. It could become apparent over quite a short period of time which clubs are a bit fucked. We just have to make the interest payments on the stadium. Can we do that without matches is the question.
 
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