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daryl hannah

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Think it depends on his quality. We want to go back to buying the best young talent. If he is quality and we can help him develop then he'll find his place.
From what I've seen of him he's the next Scholes (without wanting to burden him with that tag) - might need a bit of work on his tenacity and aggression/application, but creatively looks awesome.

Having Dele and Eze as options in the 10 sounds like good sense to me.
 

brendanb50

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I think most of us wouldn't mind Lamela out and homegrown Eze in.

And I'm a bit of a Lamela fanboy fwiw

Would love a player of Lamela's intensity/quality who can play regularly. It's the only thing letting him down. Love his passion and drive in a game but we just don't get enough minutes out of him which is a real shame.
 

brendanb50

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From what I've seen of him he's the next Scholes (without wanting to burden him with that tag) - might need a bit of work on his tenacity and aggression/application, but creatively looks awesome.

Having Dele and Eze as options in the 10 sounds like good sense to me.

Yes, his vision and control look great. Probably haven't watched him enough but for me, it's hard to tell if he's a bit languid in his style or whether his quality makes it look like he has more time at that level?
 

daryl hannah

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There is certainly an opportunity but we have a full squad so will need to sell.

Vorm, Aurier, Davies, Verts, Foyth, Lamela, Dier, Sissoko, Moura and Winks are all possibilities for the sell list but finding teams to buy them and pay their wages.

Alternatively we could some out and have a higher net spend.
Davies is a funny one - he's untouchable and was recently given a new contract. With circumstances as they are it's not a desperately urgent position to improve upon, just one that needs sorting down the line.

It makes me laugh when people say we only need 2 or 3 players...
 

yankspurs

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Just entertain this:

Poch earned us £200m in CL revenue - money that couldn't be factored into the stadium build.

Incoming funds from outgoing players:
January & Summer 2019 - we sold Dembele, Trippier, Janssen, Onomah swap, Nkoudou = £37m incoming funds
January 2020 - we sold Eriksen, and loaned KWP, CCV, & Rose = £24m incoming funds
Total incoming since the windows where nothing happened = £61m of incoming funds.

Outgoing spend on incoming players:
Summer 2019 - Clarke (£10m), Ndombele (£55m), Lo Celso (£28.8m + £14.4m loan fee), Sess (£25m) = £133m spend
January 2020 - Bergwijn (£27m), Gedson (£4m, loan fee with £25m option) = £56m potential spend
Total spend commitment since the windows where nothing happened = £189m spend
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Net spend since the windows where nothing happened = £128m


Then...

Incoming funds from outgoing players 2020 (example illustration):
Summer/Autumn 2020 - we will loan and sell Clarke, Amos, Foyth, KWP, Rose, prob sell Aurier and maybe Lamela/Dier = roughly £60m incoming

Outgoing spend on incoming players 2020 (example illustration):
Summer/Autumn 2020 - Hojbjerg (£15m), Eze (£20m), Milik (£36m), Maripan (£25m), Right back 1 (£20m), Right back 2 (£3m loan deal?) = roughly £120m spend

So...

Total incoming since the windows where nothing happened = £121m of incoming funds.
Total spend commitment since the windows where nothing happened =
£308m of spend
----
Net spend since the windows where nothing happened = £187m


In the next transfer window we could afford to spend £120m quite easily based on the fact of having had £200m of CL revenue.

In terms of wages, you've got Vertonghen, Rose, Wanyama, Trippier and Eriksen all off the books. I believe the club will be looking at total spend over a period of a few years. In this case I've chosen the period since the windows we signed and sold nobody.
There is a very infectious disease ravaging the world that has cancelled all sports for 2+ months and stopped all large gatherings where fans wont be allowed in stadiums for quite a while and has tv broadcasters going over every inch of contracts to get money back. That is a MASSIVE chunk of change missing from the clubs revenue when we need to pay wages, and pay off a ~£600m debt
 

daryl hannah

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There is a very infectious disease ravaging the world that has cancelled all sports for 2+ months and stopped all large gatherings where fans wont be allowed in stadiums for quite a while and has tv broadcasters going over every inch of contracts to get money back. That is a MASSIVE chunk of change missing from the clubs revenue when we need to pay wages, and pay off a ~£600m debt
Yes it is a chunk of change missing - a third of the season's stadium revenue is gone plus other sporting events. Man Utd have estimated £28m so far has been lost to them. It's not infeasible that we are somewhat in a similar position to them.
 

thekneaf

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Yes it is a chunk of change missing - a third of the season's stadium revenue is gone plus other sporting events. Man Utd have estimated £28m so far has been lost to them. It's not infeasible that we are somewhat in a similar position to them.
Wouldn't we be worse off? as our match day operation is much slicker and we've already had additional concert events cancel
 

hellava_tough

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There is certainly an opportunity but we have a full squad so will need to sell.

Vorm, Aurier, Davies, Verts, Foyth, Lamela, Dier, Sissoko, Moura and Winks are all possibilities for the sell list but finding teams to buy them and pay their wages.

Alternatively we could some out and have a higher net spend.

Loan some out?

If so, I agree. Would give us time to sell the players we want to sell.

EDIT Even buying young players and loaning them back for 24 months could work for us (and their clubs).
 

SpursSince1980

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Nearly all clubs in the PL will be in the same financial spot. Hence, there will be a premium on free agents. Also will see a huge increase in loans... In particular longer loans that may involve clubs effectively swapping/trading players. So, while i don't think we will spend more than 10m this summer, that doesn't mean we won't see three or four new faces. Just that most will be via long term loans and free agent signings.
 

rawhide

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Just entertain this:

Poch earned us £200m in CL revenue - money that couldn't be factored into the stadium build.

Incoming funds from outgoing players:
January & Summer 2019 - we sold Dembele, Trippier, Janssen, Onomah swap, Nkoudou = £37m incoming funds
January 2020 - we sold Eriksen, and loaned KWP, CCV, & Rose = £24m incoming funds
Total incoming since the windows where nothing happened = £61m of incoming funds.

Outgoing spend on incoming players:
Summer 2019 - Clarke (£10m), Ndombele (£55m), Lo Celso (£28.8m + £14.4m loan fee), Sess (£25m) = £133m spend
January 2020 - Bergwijn (£27m), Gedson (£4m, loan fee with £25m option) = £56m potential spend
Total spend commitment since the windows where nothing happened = £189m spend
----
Net spend since the windows where nothing happened = £128m


Then...

Incoming funds from outgoing players 2020 (example illustration):
Summer/Autumn 2020 - we will loan and sell Clarke, Amos, Foyth, KWP, Rose, prob sell Aurier and maybe Lamela/Dier = roughly £60m incoming

Outgoing spend on incoming players 2020 (example illustration):
Summer/Autumn 2020 - Hojbjerg (£15m), Eze (£20m), Milik (£36m), Maripan (£25m), Right back 1 (£20m), Right back 2 (£3m loan deal?) = roughly £120m spend

So...

Total incoming since the windows where nothing happened = £121m of incoming funds.
Total spend commitment since the windows where nothing happened =
£308m of spend
----
Net spend since the windows where nothing happened = £187m


In the next transfer window we could afford to spend £120m quite easily based on the fact of having had £200m of CL revenue.

In terms of wages, you've got Vertonghen, Rose, Wanyama, Trippier and Eriksen all off the books. I believe the club will be looking at total spend over a period of a few years. In this case I've chosen the period since the windows we signed and sold nobody.
Ooh, net spend. How I’ve missed you...
 

dontcallme

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Loan some out?

If so, I agree. Would give us time to sell the players we want to sell.

EDIT Even buying young players and loaning them back for 24 months could work for us (and their clubs).
Yep, meant loan players out. I have a terrible habit of missing out verbs when I type.

Aurier has a good reputation in France. If we loan him out for a year we might be able to sell him the season after once clubs' finances are getting back on track. e could then possibly buy someone like the Norwich right back for cheaper than normal.

Foyth has a few Argentina caps. His style of football might suit an Italian club. A good season in Italy and we might get a good fee at the end of the season.
 
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mr ashley

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Can’t remember where I saw it (Probably in this thread!) but there was an interesting article about clubs match day revenue as a percentage of their turnover. If clubs are struggling, asking prices might drop. I’m sure Daniel will be keeping his eyes peeled!
 

Davo99

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Yep, meant loan players out. I have a terrible habit of missing out verbs when I type.

Aurier has a good reputation in France. If we loan him out for a year we might be able to sell him the season after once clubs' finances are getting back on track. e could then possibly buy someone like the Norwich right back for cheaper than normal.

Aurier has a few Argentina caps. His style of football might suit an Italian club. A good season in Italy and we might get a good fee at the end of the season.
He’s Ivorian mate. :D
 

daryl hannah

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Wouldn't we be worse off? as our match day operation is much slicker and we've already had additional concert events cancel
Looking at overall revenue, Man U coin over £500m/year. Last year we reported £460m including an £85m contribution from the CL run to the final. Our matchday is £100-£120m so about 25-30% of our revenue. The other events bring in about £2-3m each including the NFL games.
 
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spursfan77

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Yep, meant loan players out. I have a terrible habit of missing out verbs when I type.

Aurier has a good reputation in France. If we loan him out for a year we might be able to sell him the season after once clubs' finances are getting back on track. e could then possibly buy someone like the Norwich right back for cheaper than normal.

Foyth has a few Argentina caps. His style of football might suit an Italian club. A good season in Italy and we might get a good fee at the end of the season.

Add sissoko to that. He’s someone we could take in a loan fee for or probably sell for £10m. Maybe the geordies have stopped hating him and would welcome him back?!?! ?
 

dontcallme

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Add sissoko to that. He’s someone we could take in a loan fee for or probably sell for £10m. Maybe the geordies have stopped hating him and would welcome him back?!?! ?
Sure, Sissoko was on my list of players we could potentially sell in order to buy.
 
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