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76Match Prediction

  • Away Win - Clean Sheet

    Votes: 75 43.4%
  • Away Win - Concede Goal(s)

    Votes: 65 37.6%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 16 9.2%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Away Lose

    Votes: 12 6.9%

  • Total voters
    173
  • Poll closed .

SpursSince1980

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Jan 23, 2011
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I don't understand why Jose is taking heat for this loss. The players were fully to blame for that shit show. Epically incompetent defending led to all three goals for Sheff Utd. They did well to precisely open us up, but our focus was way off. We just let runners run, lost track of other players, and just watched the ball, instead of reacting. The whole thing was humiliating.

And when we did get into the final third... the amount of misplaced passes and idiotic decision making was hilariously predictable. Sonny flouncing around, scared shitless to put in any effort. Harry wasn't much better. Stevie B looked a bit bemused by the whole thing. And Moura was playing it safe. Then comes on Lamela, who kept running thoughtlessly into the abyss. Following that, Dele comes on, and did his usual pussy-footing around, without intent.

Even Lo Celso was off today.

Bottom line... I'm not sure how Jose is able to get these players to focus. Their mistakes are childish at times. Such as the inability to pick out a ten yard pass without over-hitting it or completely misplacing it. No tactics or strategy in the world can fix stupid. And that was how nearly all of our players played today... stupid. And as much as I can certainly understand how annoying Jose's negativity can be... today was not his fault.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

Your least favourite poster
Jan 5, 2013
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I’m struggling to see where we go from here. This squad have failed to play for Pochettino and Mourinho.

The squad mentality is absolutely fucked and frankly I think the only fix is to rip it up and start again. Only issue being we are paying off a huge stadium loan along with no CL money incoming and COVID-19 causing us to take a further £200m hit.

As painful as it sounds, it’s getting to point now where we are going to have to sell Kane to highest bidder to help start any form of rebuild.
 

Chimbo!

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Jan 7, 2007
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Wilder's plans outclassed Mourinho's. Our defence was embarrassing to watch tonight. We had over seventy per cent possession and we just could not break down their defence, yes, we were unlucky when Kane thought he scored the equaliser, but VAR rules are very clear. We really need to revamp our defence next season and that includes Lloiris too.
I don’t think Wilder outclassed Mourinho. The margins were fine, particularly in the first half. Also LLoris has bailed us out a few times since the restart.

The worry is that this form has been consistent for 18 months. The personnel have been chopped and changed and nothing has improved. The simplest explanation is this is a mid table side and no individual, including the manager, can change it. This is a 5-year rebuilding job at best, probably more because the pandemic will have crippled us more than the competition.
 

shoggy33

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Feb 25, 2007
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I maintain we were ok in the first half, but obviously dreadful in the second. We have been in decline for 2-3 years now and it's painfully clear that this squad is full of players who simply aren't good enough. The sad thing is most of our new signings arent really working out either. I really can't see us competing at the top again for a long time unless we completely dispand the squad and start again. The last people on the planet I would want in charge of that are Levy and Mourinho though, so basically we're screwed.
 

glacierSpurs

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Sep 28, 2013
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Liverpool still playing like they are relegating. Such mentality can only win great things. So fucking envious of it. I thought Mourinho is great at building seige mentality. Our weak babies seemed too much for him it seems.
 

walworthyid

David Ginola
Oct 25, 2004
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Can't really blame the manager for that imo.

Lack of movement up front, and very poor marking at the back.

Schoolboy football from a team full of internationals that no amount of tactical brilliance could change. Shocking from the players today, not even able to get the absolute basics right.

Hope Jose fires the f*cos into them all the way back.
Are you joking? Yes the players were poor. The defending was abysmal, but surely this has something to do with a lack of motivation and the way that they are set up. If you were a top professional would you want to play the kind of "football" that jose coaches? Sit back and wait for the other team to make a mistake. Let them have the ball but dont press. Give the ball to the wing back and hope that he might get a cross in every once in a while. Its appalling. If the players tried to execute a good brand of football badly I could understand it and see a way to improve. But the fact is that good players are executing a really bad brand of football, really, really, really badly.

If we passed it about well but couldnt defend I could take it. If we created chances but couldnt convert them I could take it. If we pressed like crazy people but run out of steam I could take it. This I simply cannot take. The football is shocking. The performances are shocking and ut is very clear to every observer that the players are not enjoying it.

He has got to go.
 

freeeki

Arsehole.
Aug 5, 2008
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These players are finished:
Vorm
Toby
Jan
Rose

These players needs to get sold:
Aurier
Lucas
Foyth (I like him)

Agree with all of the above.

On the “need to get sold” list, we should probably add Sissoko, Lamela, and Dele.

We also need to start succession planning for Hugo, and sadly Gazzaniga is not the one.

We need an overhaul of the squad, Dele has looked rusty for most of the last two seasons, and Sissoko / Lamela are both upgradable, while just about still at an age where they can command a reasonable fee.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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Well, I agree, I don’t think it matters who is manager. But is Levy really going to give up all his hard work by not spending money and improving the squad now. It makes no sense. Makes building the stadium and trying to push on pointless. They might as well of kept us at WHL and taken the tv and prize money and not bothered.
They are building assets which when they do sell will make them billions. They don’t care about anything else.
 

danielneeds

Kick-Ass
May 5, 2004
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Liverpool still playing like they are relegating. Such mentality can only win great things. So fucking envious of it. I thought Mourinho is great at building seige mentality. Our weak babies seemed too much for him it seems.
It's easy to run when you're on top of the world and the confidence is flowing through you. It's when times get tough that people stop - they don't expect the pass to come, so they stop running, etc, etc.
 

razzmaster

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Jun 21, 2008
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Agree with all except striker who doesnt link play. That comment is stupid

I agree but in the current system Harry doesn't get involved nearly as much as he used to. He used to drop deeper but can't now because it overcrowded. We are at our best when Harry gets a bit of space but that just isn't happening now and it's down to Jose
 

doctor stefan Freud

the tired tread of sad biology
Sep 2, 2013
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I don't think it's that bad. We can get rid of Aurier, Toby, Jan, Sissoko, KWP and Vorm and give us a decent chunk of change and wages saved.

Bring in a new RB and use Foyth as backup being is a DM and inject some fucking passion and pressing into the side and it would be serviceable.
My good friend, have you ever heard the term ‘deadwood’? It took on new, unparalleled meanings in the summer transfer window of 2018 and is ready to be deployed at any given notice over the next few months
 

mill

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May 21, 2007
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C0YS

Just another member
Jul 9, 2007
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I don’t think Wilder outclassed Mourinho. The margins were fine, particularly in the first half. Also LLoris has bailed us out a few times since the restart.

The worry is that this form has been consistent for 18 months. The personnel have been chopped and changed and nothing has improved. The simplest explanation is this is a mid table side and no individual, including the manager, can change it. This is a 5-year rebuilding job at best, probably more because the pandemic will have crippled us more than the competition.
A few sensible signings would make a big difference. I don't think our players are bad, I think we seriously lack balance. We need an offensive player who can pass the ball quickly, we need a midfielder who can help out with the defense. We need a fullback who can defend and that would already make a big difference. We more options and more players that make a team play, thankfully those kind of players are not always that expensive but yeah.
 

CornerPinDreamer

up in the cheap seats
Aug 20, 2013
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Are you joking? Yes the players were poor. The defending was abysmal, but surely this has something to do with a lack of motivation and the way that they are set up. If you were a top professional would you want to play the kind of "football" that jose coaches? Sit back and wait for the other team to make a mistake. Let them have the ball but dont press. Give the ball to the wing back and hope that he might get a cross in every once in a while. Its appalling. If the players tried to execute a good brand of football badly I could understand it and see a way to improve. But the fact is that good players are executing a really bad brand of football, really, really, really badly.

If we passed it about well but couldnt defend I could take it. If we created chances but couldnt convert them I could take it. If we pressed like crazy people but run out of steam I could take it. This I simply cannot take. The football is shocking. The performances are shocking and ut is very clear to every observer that the players are not enjoying it.

He has got to go.



nailed it, the tactics look like we could be playing Championship or League 1. The players are then behaving like that
 

Spursmatty87

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Jul 7, 2016
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If they were to sell up now and get owners who are solely interested with success on the pitch I will be extremely grateful at what they have done. If ENIC stay on it could start to get toxic

Who’s really gonna buy us. Need £2b then about £300m to invest into the team it ain’t gonna happen.
 
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