Amo
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When I actually try to it doesn't work.
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When I actually try to it doesn't work.
DanielJohnCosta
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no the original post was making excuses for the manager for setting up some truly horrible football, i'm simply stating as UCL finalists we can pass it forward if our manager wanted to
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Or a DCM comes in, we become very difficult to beat, win a few games in a row and the players start believing in themselves again.
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Which we have done. You're using a broad stroke statement to run the current manager down, while the football last night was poor, if we weren't passing the ball forward we wouldn't have scored the goal.
It was rubbish as a game of football, but we all know that.
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Celebration takes place in many forms. I’d say this was the lower end of the scale. At that end, enthusiasm is hard to muster. Yes, it’s a positive. But the energy isn’t there to dance around the room. That doesn’t necessarily warrant fans becoming ‘fans’. We’re all on the same side. But the spectrum is rather large and, at the moment, widespread.
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Lo Celso was our priority target and Bruno was backup. How we were never signing Dybala?
Also didnt Pleat find Dele from League Two? So weird that Levy listens to good scout
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Metalhead
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I think that it’s in no small measure down to the fact that many didn’t want Mourinho and are determined to be proven right so every situation, every game, every word said by Mourinho will be contrived in such a way to paint him in as negative light as possible and where possible to ‘prove’ that he’s the wrong choice and that he will be on his way very soon.
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I would disagree with some of that. To say he doesn't play young players or develop them. He has been credited by Rashford and McTominay for helping to develop them. McTominay is now a regular for united and got his Debut under him. Also we have a young player that even though he played really well in preseason didnt get a kick until Jose come in and would have probably left for nothing in Tanganga. He might juat stay now. So lets not say he doesnt or will never play kids. He has started Skipp and is always praising him for his efforts in training and has done the same with White and Cirkin. So its a myth. He also won the prem as someone pointed out with the youngest squad in prem history. He also kick started the career of Varane at real madrid. So lets all be honest here. We can point to players hes moved on but KDB and Salah werent ready when he moved them on. They wanted game time and he couldnt give them it. He was also winning trophies at this same time. So not a complete disaster.
As for the sort of players we would buy. We bought those type of players under Harry. Id say our position is more critical now than under harry purely because we are around the CL places now and financially we need to stay there. Levy cares about the net spend. So if we can get that to a place hes comfortable he will spend money
He probably wasnt 1st choice for many of us. The reality is hes here and should be backed by the fans and Levy. The agenda some have against him is bordering on ridiculous. We have 3 games in a week and controlled a side who have been getting plaudits under Carlo Ancelotti to just 6 touches in our box. Once we get midfielders in who are happy to carry the ball forward and commit players as well as getting the ball forward quickly then we will be on to something. Sissoko and winks cannot do this to the kevel we require. Maybe ndombele will be up to the challenge Jose has set out before him. Lo celso was as jose made him convince him he should be in the side now hes probably the 2nd name in the XI.
For as long as ive been a spurs fan weve been weak mentally and no real winners in the side. The ones who appeared to be winners quickly left. Berba bale sheringham even Judas. All got out. If we hadnt been on cuspast couple of seasons Kane would have been gone as well. Players too nice to call each other out. When your teammates demand little from you wherenis the motivation. Do you think Ndombele would have got away with what he has at Chelsea with some of the characters they had in the dressing room.
Mourinho is a winner its about time the players believed it too. Believing you are a winner and walking out in to any aspect of life believing you belong there makes a big difference. Saying to your team and to anyone who would listen that it was a miracle we had got to a cup final shows your level of expectation and what you are demanding from your players. Thought we were meant to aim high as a club not aim for the middle of the road
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We were bad under Sherwood because we didn't have the right players (with the right mentality) - which Poch proved when he began his clear out (and Sherwood was not the right man to take us forward). It's not quite the same now but I think yesterday showed just how much we miss Eriksen and Dembele. They were at the fulcrum of all our creativity.
We need an outstanding playmaker or two to make his team function as an attacking unit. In the meantime, what we did yesterday will get us more good results than not.
I don't think the squad are unhappy, more they want to win. They played for mourinho yesterday, that was clear. Green shoots. The next three transfer windows are crucial if we want to challenge again.
DanielJohnCosta
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yeh I guess we will have to rely on 2 shots on target per game going forward, nice.
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No Pleat didn't find Dele. He was being watched by numerous clubs scouts including Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs (not Pleat) since he was around 13. I was being told about him from someone whos boy played with him at youth level and was regularly telling me this lad at MK was going to be great and was being watched by those clubs. There were more clubs but it was a while a go and I can't remember the rest.
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Shadydan
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didn't you literally do the same one reply up?
No you want us to pass forward more and be more expansive - I showed you an extreme example of what happens when we do that, basically we're a bit shit if we open up, but somehow you've taken that as we should only rely on having 2 shots per game.
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It’s funny but for a player who had many fans scratching their heads as to what his place was within the team, Dembele went on to be an incredible influence in the team and is really missed.
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It's going to take much more than just hoping one or two individuals will solve the problem.
Neville was right on commentary last night, about half hour in, when he described it (both teams, but lets focus on Spurs) as just a series of slow one off passes with no idea behind them or with a purpose to do something. No harmony or fluidity to the movement of players or trying to link with others and construct a move in little sub-units. Especially in the final third. That is a whole team problem and requires everyone to improve on and off the ball.
You can say individual players should be able to work it out for themselves, but very often they cant. They need direction and the framework set for them, tons of coaching, to start gaining a better instinct for what you're trying to do.
This was a problem under Poch, it continues to be a problem if not worse under Mourinho. And is the weakest aspect of his coaching career tbh, he's much more comfortable organising, solidifying, and working on fast transitions rather than more patient football. But whilst he can get away with it at the moment, it will have to evolve pretty quickly beyond 'incredibly basic' possession play because he'll find what other managers have found, and the way modern football in general has gone, more and more teams prepared to sit off and defend deep and just ask you to break them down.
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DanielJohnCosta
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No you want us to pass forward more and be more expansive - I showed you an extreme example of what happens when we do that, basically we're a bit shit if we open up, but somehow you've taken that as we should only rely on having 2 shots per game.
yeh, so they are both extremes on either side of the situation...
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