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bgibbouk

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Having watched Brentford a few times can’t believe we are considering buying this guy. Ok he’s got some ability and tricks and no doubt would look great on a you tube compilation ( perhaps that’s how we scout our players!) but his work rate is poor rarely does any tracking back and is certainly no improvement on what we have already got. If we have money to spend surely a couple of full backs, defensive midfielder and back up for Kane are far greater priorities.
 

bigfrooj

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Poor mans Marcus Edwards. Does some wonderful stuff And can glide past opposition . Watch some of his highlights and remember his work rate isn’t the best. Doubt if it’ll happen.
 

JonnySpurs

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Doubting this link. Feels a lot more like a West Ham kinda signing to me.

He has done some brilliant things at times but there's a reason he's in the Championship at 24 and it's probably more to do with a lack of an all round game.

Ollie Watkins is most certainly the better option and available for 18m I believe.
 

TPdYID

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What I’m trying to say is Willian and Courinho would walk in to our starting 11... players like Benrahama and Eze although exciting, might not even be good enough for a top 10 team. That’s the type of gamble I was talking about...
Would you be happy giving Willian a 3 year deal on 200k a week (reported: SSN) at the age of 32? To me that sounds like a recipe for financial ruin. Add Ozil into the mix on 350k and whatever Coutinho would be on?

Surely those players on those wages aren’t affordable?
 
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Doubting this link. Feels a lot more like a West Ham kinda signing to me.

He has done some brilliant things at times but there's a reason he's in the Championship at 24 and it's probably more to do with a lack of an all round game.

Ollie Watkins is most certainly the better option and available for 18m I believe.
Him and Ollie Watkins are the same age and the same was said of Neal Maupay who scored a few goals this season for Brighton.

Reckon we should be careful of writing players off with some of the criteria we have come up with. There is a reason we struggled all season outside of the obvious - we lack options and creativity off the bench a lot of the time.

Not to say I can't understand yours and others reservations - if we are shopping on a budget then it's clear (looking at other links) that all the players we are looking at perhaps have negatives to their game.

Edit - I like Watkins as a player too, so don't disagree on that.
 

joey55

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We need someone who can deputise for, or play alongside Kane way more than we need another winger. I can see Levy might be interested in Benrahma (who could be the next Hazard or equally the next Boufal), but I doubt Mourinho is. Olly Watkins would make a heap more sense IMO.

I think there are better wing/wide forward options who can deputise for Kane, than there are strikers at the moment. There just don't seem to be that many quality strikers available, which I think is a probably a consequence of so few teams playing 2 up front these days and even lots of teams not even playing a traditional striker. The result is less and less players are being developed in that role. Wingers used to score 5-8 goals per season, but now teams play with wide forwards cutting in and they score as many a strikers.

I'm not keen on Benrahma, but if a wing forward of quality becomes available, then I'd rather sign one of those to fill in when Kane is injured, as Sonny does now, than buy an average striker. I'd way prefer to see someone like Rebic starting as our striker, if Kane was injured, than Deeney or Wilson.
 

wrd

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I think there are better wing/wide forward options who can deputise for Kane, than there are strikers at the moment. There just don't seem to be that many quality strikers available, which I think is a probably a consequence of so few teams playing 2 up front these days and even lots of teams not even playing a traditional striker. The result is less and less players are being developed in that role. Wingers used to score 5-8 goals per season, but now teams play with wide forwards cutting in and they score as many a strikers.

I'm not keen on Benrahma, but if a wing forward of quality becomes available, then I'd rather sign one of those to fill in when Kane is injured, as Sonny does now, than buy an average striker. I'd way prefer to see someone like Rebic starting as our striker, if Kane was injured, than Deeney or Wilson.

Rebic on a 2 year loan atm.
 

joey55

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Bergwijn was fantastic in his first couple of games - don't really understand why he's not playing been more.

I think it's because he struggled on his last 2 starts, against Bournemouth and Sheff Utd and Lucas did well.
 

Klinsmannic

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Benrahma is a talented player, but he didn't shine in the playoff final which was disappointing. Raises questions about his ability to play on the big stage. Having said that, Watkins also didn't perform.

If Jose really wants to spend 20m+ on an attacker my preference would be Brooks 1st, Eze 2nd, Benrahma 3rd (of the players we've been linked with).
 

doctor stefan Freud

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I think it's because he struggled on his last 2 starts, against Bournemouth and Sheff Utd and Lucas did well.
Have to agree. Moura frustrates me too often but he finished the season strong and started looking like a Mourinho wide player: direct, technical, hard working and defensively minded
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Exactly mate.
I'm not sure why everyone is saying we should get Brooks or Eze and also saying we don't have room for Benrahma. All three players would be expected to play on either the wing or in attacking midfield [depending on formation].


I don't disagree with you either, especially regarding Sess potentially getting chances at winger and fullback. That is definitely a fair shout.

I'm just speculating but I do think Jose values Lamela more as a midfielder than a winger [central midfield or #10]. He has primarily played more of deep, central role under him and in several matches since the restart, Lamela has been subbed on as a direct replacement for Lo Celso in central midfield. I think if we're likely to continue our counter attacking style, Jose is going to prefer quicker players on the wing than Lamela.

Because we reportedly need to sell players to buy players, I do get the vibe that we'd likely sacrifice Coco to bring in a new winger though [hence the Eze, Brooks, and now Benrahma links] considering he only has two years left on his contract and is now 28. He's a grafter and good squad player but these links suggest we are looking to bring in a younger player who could potentially be more of a threat to the starting XI.
spot on
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Hahaha this is the exact stuff people were spouting about Grealish and Maddison and now they're moaning about how we missed out.

How can you discount Benrahma for not scoring against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes when he's never played them? Like you said, against the competition he has played he's bagged goals and proven himself. If you watch him his talent is clear to see

Will he be better than Lamela? Maybe, maybe not. We'll have to wait and see, but for 16m you can understand why Chelsea, Arsenal, and us have reportedly been interested in giving him a chance.

He'll almost certainly be playing Premier League football somewhere as he completely dominated the Championship. The last couple of players to do that in recent seasons ended up doing alright in the Premier League...

I thought Bruno Fernandes immediate rise to PL stardom would finally help people realize that there are truly elite talents out playing in the "lesser leagues". Guess I was wrong.
spot on again.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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He must be a fucking Messi then . Lamela, injuries apart has bossed games against City, Chelsea, Arsenal and the likes. This guy who has been good against Fulham and other Championship sides and no PL experience, suddenly is going to be a HUGE upgrade on Lamela? Do me a favour
I think you vastly over-rate Lamela, he's never 'bossed' any games against Man.City, Arsenal and the likes, EVER, do me a favour LOL! Sure he might have scored the odd important goal or set-up a goal in those fixtures occasionally but he most certainly has never 'bossed' any of those games if any game from what i can remember.

A winger doesn't usually 'boss' a game anyway that's more the role of a CM or mabye a big striker but in terms of dominating a game and having a consistent impact and being the best player like players such as Hazard, Salah, KDB, Kane, Sterling, Mane, Son have all done at times then Lamela is absolutely no where near that level of quality or consistency. He's also perennially injured.

Look I like Lamela, I think he works extremely hard for the team and is an 'effective' player at times but I've never thought he was the requisite quality to be a regular start for where we want to be and he's had more than enough time to prove that, to be honest anyone with two legs who can pass and shoot and dribble and who stays fit for 30+ matches a season would be a HUGE upgrade on Lamela.

As others have said people scorned at players such as Maddison and Grealish who by the way weren't even putting up the kind of numbers Benrahma has been and look how good they've gone on to be.

Each to their own opinions and in football you never know but If we could make it work to sell Lamela and get this guy in for a similar price its an absolute no brainer.
 

Who’s our next manager?

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Add Leon Bailey to the winger list.Another winger and Lamela has to be the one to go. Still need that attacking midfielder though and Eze could be a great chance. Could pick up Benrahma and Eze for £35million and surely get £20 million for Lamela.
Therefore, wishful thinkin*, we could get Hojbjerg, Eze and Benrahma a for combined fee of £50million.Sell Lamela,KWP and a few others like CCV etc and not spend too much.
 
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TPdYID

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Add Leon Bailey to the winger list.Another winger and Lamela has to be the one to go. Still need that attacking midfielder though and Eze could be a great chance. Could pick up Benrahma and Eze for £35million and surely get £20 million for Lamela.
Therefore, wishful thinkin*, we could get Hojbjerg, Eze and Benrahma a for combined fee of £50million.Sell Lamela,KWP and a few others like CCV etc and not spend too much.
Sounds like football manager on ecstasy
 

mr ashley

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Poor mans Marcus Edwards. Does some wonderful stuff And can glide past opposition . Watch some of his highlights and remember his work rate isn’t the best. Doubt if it’ll happen.
Poor mans Marcus Edwards?
Jeez some people need a reality check.
Honestly I’d love to get a unbiased (eg not a Spurs fans) view of Marcus Edwards. I’m sure it would be more like ‘who?’ than ‘yes, the new Messi until spurs mucked him about’
If he’s the poor mans Marcus, does that mean he has a worse attitude, or that he’s achieved less success?
Would love to understand this better
 
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