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Goobers

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Yeh Fazio was not a bad defender, just had no pace and didn't like people running at him. But he was as good as anyone in the air. I don't think he was suited to the PL at all, but the way we played didn't help him, and he is not a bad defender in the right circumstances. Skriniar's reputation is much much bigger than Fazio's ever was though and he is far more mobile and has good ability on the ball. He is on a different planet to Fazio. Last year he was one of the most highly rated up and coming CBs in football, it's actually not a that different situation than Ndombele.

yeah employed in the right team he was good as he showed at Roma but for a high pressing team it was a disaster.
Actually my mate has just told me that Skriniar is not too dissimilar whereby he would look imperious in a low block but would be found wanting in a team that high presses.
 

tiger666

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yeah employed in the right team he was good as he showed at Roma but for a high pressing team it was a disaster.
Actually my mate has just told me that Skriniar is not too dissimilar whereby he would look imperious in a low block but would be found wanting in a team that high presses.

This says the same

 

rabbikeane

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Reckon Fazio would by far be our best defender if he had played under Mourinho, again it's all about playing to the individual's strengths. If there's space behind and around Fazio with players allowed to run at him then he will look like a clown,
play compact and there's hardly any better in the world.

You get a bit of the same with Skriniar, I would not have wanted us to sign him under AVB or Pochettino
 

Japhet

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yeah employed in the right team he was good as he showed at Roma but for a high pressing team it was a disaster.
Actually my mate has just told me that Skriniar is not too dissimilar whereby he would look imperious in a low block but would be found wanting in a team that high presses.

Pretty much what I was saying. I'm sure Skriniar's a very good player but Ndombele could (could) be quite exceptional.
 

TEESSIDE1

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yeah employed in the right team he was good as he showed at Roma but for a high pressing team it was a disaster.
Actually my mate has just told me that Skriniar is not too dissimilar whereby he would look imperious in a low block but would be found wanting in a team that high presses.

You can play a high press with a high line or a high press where your centre backs don’t push too far up but your offensive players apply the pressure. Playing the latter wouldn’t expose Skriniar. Also need to bear mind that Davies, Alderweireld and Dier all run in treacle therefore we’re not going to see a return of the Poch version of the high press where the defenders stood near the half way line.
 

homer hotspur

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Reckon Fazio would by far be our best defender if he had played under Mourinho, again it's all about playing to the individual's strengths. If there's space behind and around Fazio with players allowed to run at him then he will look like a clown,
play compact and there's hardly any better in the world.

You get a bit of the same with Skriniar, I would not have wanted us to sign him under AVB or Pochettino
Have to hope JM stays long enough to justify the outlay then
 

rabbikeane

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Have to hope JM stays long enough to justify the outlay then

We can't base our transfer policy on not keeping our current manager or his football style. When he goes we either hire a manager that builds on his work, or we'll look to change our pool of players again. We won't get anywhere if we don't build with the manager.
If we're not all in then we're at best treading water, most likely lost for 5+ years.

Extreme qualities to suit the way we play, now.
 

C0YS

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Firstly, Skriniar is not like Fazio stylistically at all. Skriniar is a very aggressive defender and is, as I've said, a different level. Similarly, he is no way near as dominant as Fazio in the air. Skriniar can struggle in certain situations, not because he isn't mobile enough, if anything he comes in too aggressively and can be caught out in this way. They're are just not comparable at all.

Lets get this right Skriniar was bought by Inter in a part exchange deal for a combined total of 30 million euros. Since then he had two excellent seasons at Inter, he was linked to teams such as Barcelona, Man City, Real Madrid and Liverpool but the teams were scared off by Inter's 60 million asking price. There is a reason Inter would suggest a direct swap is fair for both sides. Because last summer they were valued at a very similar price.

Also, on Conte. The fact he is not a big fan doesn't mean much. This is a manager who constantly picks players who work in a system over talented ones. He left Jorginho at home in the Euro's and picked the likes of Parolo and Sturaro instead. Or picking Eder and Giaccherini ahead of the best Italian attacking player at the time, Insigne. The four players I've mentioned were at most useful, but really pedestrian players. We see the same with Eriksen. Conte wants players to play in a very particular way and has a long record of dropping highly rated players and replacing them with the likes of Sunderland reject, Giaccherini etc. The thing is, it works, but it really doesn't really say much about ones ability when you are dropped by Conte.

Again, it's añways good to look at the forums, in the italian ones they are mostly fuming at the possibility of this deal.
 
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rambu

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Just imagine Ndombele under Conte...I can't.

Well unless Conte's not there next season, which there's some rumor about that now - in that case Skriniar will probably stay as well, so either way I don't understand why this would work for any side.
 

WiganSpur

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Just imagine Ndombele under Conte...I can't.

Well unless Conte's not there next season, which there's some rumor about that now - in that case Skriniar will probably stay as well, so either way I don't understand why this would work for any side.
Pochettino to Inter maybe?
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Pochettino to Inter maybe?
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C0YS

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Just imagine Ndombele under Conte...I can't.

Well unless Conte's not there next season, which there's some rumor about that now - in that case Skriniar will probably stay as well, so either way I don't understand why this would work for any side.
I mean, tbf, he got the best out of Pogba. It feels a strange one, but it does have logic. Mind, poor Eriksen, he really isn't going to fit in at all.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I actually don’t think Skriniar is too different to Toby, so it could well be clever succession planning if we got him in while phasing Toby out. He reads the game very well, and despite not being quick is great at one v ones because of how he positions himself. He’s a good passer too albeit not a long pinger like Toby.

I’m not saying I want this to happen but if it does, we’ve done well. I’m not even convinced we’d need to replace Ndombele as, while I far prefer to have a genuine pure playmaker right in the middle of the pitch, Liverpool have shown that you can play fast, exciting football without it as long as the balance and chemistry are right.

I’m still fully in the ‘I’d prefer Ndombele remained and succeeded’ camp, but centre back options from Skriniar, Alderweireld, Sanchez and Dier, while Tanganga cuts his teeth at right back, leaves us in a very good position at the back. Once Toby reaches his sell by date either Tanganga moves in for him, or if he’s ended up too good at right back, we only need to replenish from the bottom with a younger player like Malachi-Walcott or a speculative signing like Kim. It makes sense dammit.
 

C0YS

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How is the heading ability of skriniar?
Statistically better than Toby, slightly worse than Dier and considerably worse than Sanchez. But that is so contextual it doesn't mean much.

In reality I'm not entirely sure, almost everything I know has come from looking at highlights and reading Inter forums and have only seen him play a couple of times, but at 6'2 you'd think he'd be alright, but it doesn't seem to be a major strength of his.
 

emiley heskey

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Statistically better than Toby, slightly worse than Dier and considerably worse than Sanchez. But that is so contextual it doesn't mean much.

In reality I'm not entirely sure, almost everything I know has come from looking at highlights and reading Inter forums and have only seen him play a couple of times, but at 6'2 you'd think he'd be alright, but it doesn't seem to be a major strength of his.

I just think given opportunity, kim min jae has more potential than skriniar has now !!! Albeit Skriniar is more experienced at this level but kim min jae has the tools to become elite defender at european league...
 
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