AberdeenYid
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Such a shame that the greatest signing of all time won’t be able to score another penalty this season. Bless.
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bigpalacios
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Fuck Utd fuck Ole and fuck pens
jamesc0le
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what do you mean? he's doing his job marking the man not the space innit?!
80M folks. I repeat: 80M.
Great defender!
LeParisien
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When I lived in the uk, shearer had the constant worried look of a man who thought he had left the an electrical appliance on. I’ve never seen someone do incapable of providing insight - utterly brain dead.
LeParisien
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Ball - goal - space - players. Typically in that order.
They’d be better off spending the Sancho money elsewhere, like CB. Only this time, they should actually buy someone decent for the money. Maybe having a respectable partner would help Maguire
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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them just get bored. If you do game after game after game, eventually you're coming out with the same things week after week and you end up going through the motions.
Once it gets like that, the only joy to be had is to start saying things that annoy people who take their comments
I find the best pundits add something from their personal experience of give their insight into something tactical or to a technique, explains why something was good/bad defending or play, or why that was a good goal rather than someone bland like McManaman who constantly says 'yep' in response to something the commentator has said. Expecting them to, week in week out, know the finer details about each club is just unrealistic, they are there to provide an embellishment to the action on the pitch, on that day, that's all. They aren't there to cater for each persons thoughts or views on things, that's just impossible.
Andy Gray, cock that he is, was, at one time, very good at that. These days you don't seem to get many of them, mostly they are background noise, I hear it, but I don't take much notice. I still don't get why it seems to annoy people, they are always going to say stuff that one doesn't agree with or is bollocks. Always. Complaining about them is about as fucking boring as they are. Watch the game, decide for yourself and don't hang too much on what they say. They aren't there to say stuff you agree with every time they open their gobs, or to be 'fair' as each individual might see it, It's just all fluff that doesn't matter.
off the top of my head, as much stick as they get, Gary Neville and Rio Ferdinand (who I only listened to for the first time a couple of times this week) aren't actually as bad as some people make them out to be.
Wow, all I meant to say was they must get bored
TLDR; Pundits are generally crap, get over it, stop fucking complaining about it, it's not ever going to change
Shadydan
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80M folks. I repeat: 80M.
Great defender!
Another one of those stupid stills that doesn't provide any context whatsoever.
Hakkz
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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them just get bored. If you do game after game after game, eventually you're coming out with the same things week after week and you end up going through the motions.
Once it gets like that, the only joy to be had is to start saying things that annoy people who take their commentsto heartseriously. I reckon they are trolling
I find the best pundits add something from their personal experience of give their insight into something tactical or to a technique, explains why something was good/bad defending or play, or why that was a good goal rather than someone bland like McManaman who constantly says 'yep' in response to something the commentator has said. Expecting them to, week in week out, know the finer details about each club is just unrealistic, they are there to provide an embellishment to the action on the pitch, on that day, that's all. They aren't there to cater for each persons thoughts or views on things, that's just impossible.
Andy Gray, cock that he is, was, at one time, very good at that. These days you don't seem to get many of them, mostly they are background noise, I hear it, but I don't take much notice. I still don't get why it seems to annoy people, they are always going to say stuff that one doesn't agree with or is bollocks. Always. Complaining about them is about as fucking boring as they are. Watch the game, decide for yourself and don't hang too much on what they say. They aren't there to say stuff you agree with every time they open their gobs, or to be 'fair' as each individual might see it, It's just all fluff that doesn't matter.
off the top of my head, as much stick as they get, Gary Neville and Rio Ferdinand (who I only listened to for the first time a couple of times this week) aren't actually as bad as some people make them out to be.
Wow, all I meant to say was they must get bored
TLDR; Pundits are generally crap, get over it, stop fucking complaining about it, it's not ever going to change
McManaman is the worst pundit I've ever heard commentate a game. Not only is he clueless, he has the most annoying pitch and accent known to man.
Marty
Audere est farce
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Zoom out and you see Maguire is tracking the centre forward like he's supposed to. Dealing with a low cross towards the far post like that is Williams' job.
Maguire didn't have a great game, he was miles too far ahead of the front post not tracking either ball or man when Navas crossed for the second goal, but the first isn't his fault.
glacierSpurs
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Oh Maguire... Sooooooo overrated. I can never ever understand why. He's never worth an ounce of that 80 million ffs. United must be thinking he's worth gold for signing an English defender when he just started to get games in England national team and everyone will applaud their vision. Leicester had been laughing till now.
And for anyone not rating Dier, he will be worthed 150m in that sense.
What a joke.
LeParisien
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My take ...
When Sevilla switch the ball from right to left they are in a clear 3-4-3 formation with their left back pushed up to join the midfield. Man Utd have a back 4. When the left back receives the ball Wan Bissaka applies the press. But this means we now have a 3 v 3 on the Man utd back line.
The first error was in Man Utd’s RW (Greenwood?) not tracking the Sevilla left back. The effect of this was to leave the Man Utd défense exposed.
Then Lindelöf has to come across and cover Sevilla’s left forward who has cleverly dragged him wide which leaves Maguire and Williams covering almost the entire width of the pitch. See here:
So United are in trouble. Sevilla then play the one two and Wan bissaka is CRIMINALLY slow in tracking back. Outrageously so. He’s made mistakes for both goals in a European semi final ..!
Lindelöf has had to come away from the centre so maybe absolve him ?
And then the ball comes across and for my money Maguire isn’t actually defending the space or the man he is meant to. He’s ball watching and gets sucked in when he doesn’t need to.
See these two photos:
It looks worse on Maguire in real time.
And then of course I don’t know what Williams is doing but he had a shocker. Occasion got to him? He’s young and he’ll learn from it.
So this is all round dreadful defensive play. From the right forward to the right back to Maguire to the left back. And we haven’t even mentioned the midfield who didn’t enter the equation at all (so easily bypassed!). You’d really like your RCM to come and help out there but no.
Gotta question the quality of defensive coaching happening at United. This is basic stuff at this level. Makes you glad we have Mourinho.
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Marty
Audere est farce
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Bravo sir, that is an excellent piece of analysis. Almost exactly what Brede Hangeland showed on Norwegian TV (BTW I love Brede, a superb guy and the best pundit I've worked with by some distance. And he gets so genuinely angry when he sees defending like that at that level).
My response was to the no context image above, yes Maguire is not in the perfect position but at least he has a motivation for not being in line with Lindelöf, to try to cut the passing lane for the forward in the middle. And as I work on football programmes for a living nothing bugs me more than no context images used to poke and laugh at.
Wan-Bissaka must have had the worst game of his professional career last night. His complete failure to track a man led to both the goals. For a full back who prides himself on being a defender first that is inexcusable.
ralvy
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Nah, they weren't so terrible last season.
Marty
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I think everyone saw already in the autumn that Leicester had got the better end of that deal the way Soyuncu stepped in and shone immediately, even if his season tailed off badly like the rest of the side's.
I don't think Maguire is a bad player, and he and AWB have certainly played a part in United's defence for all the question marks around the individuals being relatively solid this season (36 conceded in the league, only Pool and City did better, United conceded 54 the season before), but if United thought they were buying their van Dijk they were extremely wrong.
ShayLaB
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I am sure it's been discussed elsewhere but I love this format of matches all taking place together at a single location over a single leg.
It feels like world cup. The normal format feels do fractured by comparison.
Do it like this.
Every year.
Do this.
It feels like world cup. The normal format feels do fractured by comparison.
Do it like this.
Every year.
Do this.
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