There is no smoke without fire and lets be honest he clearly has not got fit i am not sure he gets what is required to be a top player in fact i dont think he has teh desire to be the best, and he has the talent to be the best, i so hope he proves me wrong and becomes a legend at spurs but i just cant see it, and nor can Jose by the look of things.
Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele
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what a load of bollocks, Jose has been around a long time, and wants to win at all cost i am sure he has tried everything to get Nd on side and playing. We have a lot of money tied up in Nd and jose knows that either he has to come good or we have to sell him and his value is dropping not increasing which is bad for Jose squad rebuild!
He could be our best midfielder if he wants to be, he needs to work hard!
Rosco1984
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What a ridiculous comment about Lamela. He may suffer with injury but its well documented he plays through them at times have you ever once seen lamella jogging on the pitch not putting in 100% that's why people love him he is a team player and the exact opposite of the intensity on the pitch than the disgraceful effort N'dombele showed against wolves etc.
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Too creative in finding ways not to train it sounds like. It seems we signed the French Kaiser
BringBack_leGin
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How many times does it need to be demonstrated to you that every single successful Mourinho side has had creative flair players in it before you stop spouting this utter drivel?
Rosco1984
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Sneijder, Deco, Ozil all flourished under Mourinho. He dosen't like him because he's lazy end of discussion plenty of flair players have exceled under Mourinho. but they also have to work hard for the team. If Ozil can cut it under Mourinho work rate wise then the bar isn't even that high that N'dombele has to reach he just cant be bothered. Also those three players have more flair and creativity than N'dombele could even dream of.
emiley heskey
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Even players like ozil tracked back a lot when he played under Mourinho when he was at his peak and yet people say Mourinho don't like flair players ..
Sneijder/Ozil/Di Maria/Fabregas/Hazard played and won trophies under Mourinho ... I think they are all flair and creative players ... I still leaving out couple others
Why? Best to come from that is his value goes up a bit. Won’t be much more as he’s already at 50m and we can’t reinvest in the squad for another 2yrs
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They own the Echo as well, don't they?
It's quite Orwellian that the rags like The Sun and TDM are read by people who defend their content to the hilt, even though their business is generating social friction, rather than some righteous belief about free press or the right to knowledge. All they ever did was rename TNoTW and people haven't really batted an eyelid.
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Been thinking this with obligation to buy.
onthetwo
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i was wondering the same i.e Poch had a very mixed track record on recruitment (assuming he was ever asked!)
spids
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Mourinho has shown throughout his career that creative players have to buy into his tactical ethos and work ethic 100%. Players such as Sneijder and Oscar have thrived. Some have had to win his trust by working hard and been willing to adapt Joe Cole and Eden Hazard being good examples, whereas others have not and have not played as much as they would have liked e.g. Pogba, Martial, Ndombele.
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We clearly have to try to persevere with him as even if we sold him for say £50m I can almost guarantee you that very little of that would be ploughed back into the team - we don't have the luxury of buying a player for £65m and simply dispensing with him after one season in a new league.
Obviously he has ability but I worry about the application - it depends on how much he wants to prove people wrong and work hard to get into the best physical shape because a TN with the right application is far and away better than any alternative we might look at should he be sold.
Obviously he has ability but I worry about the application - it depends on how much he wants to prove people wrong and work hard to get into the best physical shape because a TN with the right application is far and away better than any alternative we might look at should he be sold.
rossdapep
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I don't think it would have been. If the team hadn't fallen off the cliff we'd likely still have been doing well enough even if Ndombele was proving a flop.
However, I don't think it reflects well on Poch at all.
He'd rejected many other options as he seemed to be completely set on one of Ndombele or De Jong.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Poch always worked better with under the radar signings. He should have stuck with young English players like Brooks, Ake, for example. He's always done well with that. He could have easily, and reasonably, had a rebuild with some of these.
I think by the end of his time with us, he got far too attached to the idea that he needed a big signing to get us over the line, neglecting all the other components that he'd had success with.
Believing that Ndombele would transform the team was very short-sighted. Especially when as soon as the season started you're saying he's playing at "30% of his potential".
We didn't buy him for two years down the road, we bought him for now. And that was a typical theme with a lot of signings in his era, 1-2 years to settle. He needed to be thinking about the here and now.
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I agree, it certainly has to be. But how long do you persist? And what damage is done while you do that?
Jose is no novice, he knows when a player doesn't have the right mentality, he knows when to cut losses.
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