Odsonne Edouard

rossdapep · Sep 11, 2020

dtxspurs said:
JJ was confident in January as well...

Exactly.

A number of times he's been confident in the past only for something to go tits up at the final stages.

This is what worries me. If Edouard is number 1 target but we are unable to agree a fee, I guess we move to Milik again but what if that goes south top? On to Diallo? But what if he moves in the mean time?

I guess Levy, Hitchens and Jose have sat down and had numerous meetings about the targets and strategy on what happens should a domino fall. This is probably where Jose's confidence comes from as he knows we have other targets to fall back on. And this is ultimately how the club operate.

But something can happen unexpectedly
that throws that strategy into chaos.

And it's happened over many windows.

BuckeyeSpurs11 · Sep 11, 2020

Duncan Castles reporting Arsenal also in for him and upped their offer - seems like our MO is terms to be close for other teams before we come in and start to negotiate from there.

Think this is a difficult deal and how often do these very difficult deals come off? We did an excellent job with lo Celso in similar circumstances, perhaps we can do another loan + obligation to = a major fee avoiding the sell on?

SpartanSpur · Sep 11, 2020

fuzzylogic said:
If Celtic get a decent offer they will sell, no doubt about it. Regardless of the 10 in a row that they are going for, they should be able to reinvest some of the transfer fee and still win the league as rangers are minging! They also signed Ajeti from West Ham recently for 5m. Just depends on how much they realistically want for him. Fans of Celtic will say he isn’t going anywhere because they plan a record breaking 10 league wins in a row, but their board will just see the cash as usual

Missing out on CL will hurt their finances significantly, there is only one way of recouping that kind of loss.

SpartanSpur · Sep 11, 2020

marc aron said:
Duncan Castles reporting Arsenal also in for him and upped their offer - seems like our MO is terms to be close for other teams before we come in and start to negotiate from there.

Think this is a difficult deal and how often do these very difficult deals come off? We did an excellent job with lo Celso in similar circumstances, perhaps we can do another loan + obligation to = a major fee avoiding the sell on?

Arsenal are another club that is quite visible in the media. I'd be surprised if Castles has got the scoop there ahead of Ornstein for example.

Guntz · Sep 11, 2020

Ffs if he goes to the Goons that's an incredible signing for them.

JKendall13 · Sep 11, 2020

marc aron said:
Duncan Castles reporting Arsenal also in for him and upped their offer - seems like our MO is terms to be close for other teams before we come in and start to negotiate from there.

Think this is a difficult deal and how often do these very difficult deals come off? We did an excellent job with lo Celso in similar circumstances, perhaps we can do another loan + obligation to = a major fee avoiding the sell on?

If you’re Edouard, our situation is much more attractive compared to Arsenal with Aubameyang, Lacazette, and Nketiah. I also don’t think Arsenal are prioritizing a big money striker at the moment based on their links to Aoaur and Partey. It’s be teambuilding mispractice for them to commit another 30m+ to a striker.

Klinsmannic · Sep 11, 2020

He has 21 months left on his contract, so his value will only decrease from here on in. Celtic will want to cash in now regardless of any sell on clause to PSG. I'd imagine a deal can be done this window. Fingers crossed.

fuzzylogic · Sep 11, 2020

SpartanSpur said:
Missing out on CL will hurt their finances significantly, there is only one way of recouping that kind of loss.

yup, it’s been the same up here for years with them. But they are making good money from taking chances on players and investing relatively cheaply and selling them on for a profit. When I comes to signing player they will be rattling the biscuit tin again for funds as usual

BuckeyeSpurs11 · Sep 11, 2020

JKendall13 said:
If you’re Edouard, our situation is much more attractive compared to Arsenal with Aubameyang, Lacazette, and Nketiah. I also don’t think Arsenal are prioritizing a big money striker at the moment based on their links to Aoaur and Partey. It’s be teambuilding mispractice for them to commit another 30m+ to a striker.

totally agree that they seem to be focused elsewhere but there are rumors of Laca leaving but they also have Pepe in the wings and Willian. Also, where is Arsenal getting money from? Read they're struggling to sign either Partey or Aouar so don't think they could sign one of those and then have money for a big striker.

delawarespur · Sep 11, 2020

SpartanSpur said:
Arsenal are another club that is quite visible in the media. I'd be surprised if Castles has got the scoop there ahead of Ornstein for example.

Iirc castles also has some sort of connection to Jose. He could be putting this out there in order to put pressure on the club on behalf of Jose/agents. I have no idea if this is the case though.

snakehipsspurs · Sep 11, 2020

I really really don’t want to get excited, because we get linked to so many players so often and things usually don’t work out. But this would be the guy we’ve waited years for. I honestly believe he has the talent to take us to the next level. Alongside Kane and Son we would be deadly.

I either want him signed or ITK/AG to crush it today so I don’t get my hopes any higher.

SpartanSpur · Sep 11, 2020

JKendall13 said:
If you’re Edouard, our situation is much more attractive compared to Arsenal with Aubameyang, Lacazette, and Nketiah. I also don’t think Arsenal are prioritizing a big money striker at the moment based on their links to Aoaur and Partey. It’s be teambuilding mispractice for them to commit another 30m+ to a striker.

I said similar things before when they were linked with Pepe. That said I believe the Tierney news was in the press for quite some time before it came off, I think if they were bidding for him then it'd have hit the mainstream media by now and Ornstein would be aware. Similarly the sale of Lacazette which would you'd assume be linked.

Annabel · Sep 11, 2020

My misguided arsenal supporting friend is convinced Edouard is going to them to replace lacazette.

he is you know! · Sep 11, 2020

Guntz said:
Ffs if he goes to the Goons that's an incredible signing for them.

Yeah really believable seeing as they need to sell Bellerin or AMN to pay for Gabriel.

Despite talk Kolasinac and Torreira are still there.

Lacazette has to be sold for big money to allow them to buy anyone and I don't see them getting it.

Guntz · Sep 11, 2020

JKendall13 said:
If you’re Edouard, our situation is much more attractive compared to Arsenal with Aubameyang, Lacazette, and Nketiah. I also don’t think Arsenal are prioritizing a big money striker at the moment based on their links to Aoaur and Partey. It’s be teambuilding mispractice for them to commit another 30m+ to a striker.

Lacazette looks like he might be off to Athletico/Juve.

Yeah if he stays then there's no way they go for Edouard.

kent brockman · Sep 11, 2020

DiVaio said:
Posting here because it's not itk, but not sure how there is a legal point to stop two clubs agreeing a deal, especially when loan deal with obligation to buy is very popular right now.

Yup. PSG could also have worded their agreement so that they would have been entitled to a percentage of both sell-on fees and loan fees. I would assume that their failure to do so presumably should prevent them from successfully suing Celtic (or us).

Univarn · Sep 11, 2020

Only way I see this happening is if we structure a deal similar to Lo Celso and if the contract for PSG/Celtic is similar where we can explo

Annabel said:
My misguided arsenal supporting friend is convinced Edouard is going to them to replace lacazette.

Is it any more misguided than us thinking he is going to sign for us? From Arsenal's perspective that makes sense and would be smart business. Also because of Henry and Wenger, Arsenal have an incredibly deep pull with French players

Trix · Sep 11, 2020

Unless things have changed recently, I'm fairly sure this guy is not our primary target.

JKendall13 · Sep 11, 2020

SpartanSpur said:
I said similar things before when they were linked with Pepe. That said I believe the Tierney news was in the press for quite some time before it came off, I think if they were bidding for him then it'd have hit the mainstream media by now and Ornstein would be aware. Similarly the sale of Lacazette which would you'd assume be linked.

I think it’s very different, a winger was their main priority last season. Heavily linked to Zaha before moving onto Pepe, I don’t think they’ve been linked with other strikers this window based on a quick check on the ArsenalMania transfer board.

They very much need to sell before buying and Ornstein said the other day they are struggling to shift deadwood. I can’t see how they’d bring in Edouard without selling Laca which doesnt seem on the cards, AM locked the Laca transfer thread after Arteta saying Laca was happy at Arsenal.

Also Duncan Castles is a terrible reporter.

SpartanSpur · Sep 11, 2020

Trix said:
Unless things have changed recently, I'm fairly sure this guy is not our primary target.

Ah there's the pooh-pooh.

These Daka and Edouard links were much more interesting to me than Milik too, who by all means will be a great signing should we pull it off.

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