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Match Threads Spurs vs Newcastle - Match Thread - Day 3

Match Prediction

  • Spurs to Win

    Votes: 131 85.1%
  • Spurs to Lose

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 22 14.3%
  • Goal-less Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    154
  • Poll closed .

Darth Vega

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Jul 28, 2013
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Could a rule be changed mid season? I reckon itll be gone for next season but until then theres going to be more of this shit...for and against us im sure!

Not until March I believe. We're stuck with this for a while. I want to stop watching. Maybe I'm just a bit emotional still but this isn't fun. It feels different to dropping points fair and square. Sure, you're still angry, but this is just another level entirely.

I don't want to lose points like this, and I'd be pissed off if we won like this too.
 

wakefieldyid

SC Supporter
Jun 13, 2006
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The refs could grow some balls and say I can’t give a so obviously unfair and illogical decision
I think they were part of the original problem, in that felt that the original definition of handball was too subjective. IFAB amended the law to make the officials' job easier, and this is the result.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Could a rule be changed mid season? I reckon itll be gone for next season but until then theres going to be more of this shit...for and against us im sure!
Nope it has to stay now otherwise I'd want us awarded two points.
It night help to keep it because it will become so obvious it's a fuck up as more teams play for the penalty through the course of the season they'll have to change it next season.
 

GarlicBread

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Oct 2, 2019
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The biggest joke with this rule is that it never needed to change. This is just some **** having a stupid idea that will ‘improve’ things. It hasn’t, and it is significantly worse.
At least with VAR we had terrible refs and wanted more reliable decisions made.
 

WannaDanceWithUdogie

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May 17, 2019
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How can this ever change? We need mass boycotts and joint action from fans and players its a complete fucking disgrace! Those fat wankers who have probably never kicked a ball in their lives meddle with OUR game and dont care about the consequences
 

thefierycamel

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Dec 31, 2014
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Why wasn't the Ndombele one checked up the other end? Why wasn't a freekick awarded retrospectively against joelinton for jumping into hojberg? Why wasn't a freekick awarded for Dier being pushed? Why the fuck was that a penalty? How can the refs/VAR be so fucking wrong? It's borderline criminal.
 

George94

George
Feb 1, 2015
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If players started refusing to take the penalty / purposefully missing them that were given in these circumstances, then maybe they'll have to start looking at it immediately.

But we all know that isn't going to happen.

All very well saying "if it goes your way, you take it" but until there is a unity between everyone that the rule is an absolute disgrace, nothing will change.
 

Wizzy77

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Sep 1, 2019
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Can the whole of the league come together and make a huge protest against this stupid implementation of an stupid rule?

Sorry i wanna watch and discuss football. Not penalties day in day out. Week in week out!
 

g_harry

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Sep 27, 2005
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Fair play to Bruce there calling a spade a spade.

This goes beyond tribal nonsense - this rule is a farce and it needs to be rectified!
If they want to do something about clubs get together and agree that if pens like this is awarded. Managers agree and Roll the ball to the keeper. Sportmanship. This will change the rule soon enough after that. The clubs have to step above this shit.
 

stonebrow

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Jun 28, 2012
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I bet this season we'll see records set regarding amount of penalties in a game and in total iver the season!
 

Marcus_spur

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Aug 31, 2012
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Could a rule be changed mid season? I reckon itll be gone for next season but until then theres going to be more of this shit...for and against us im sure!
It's not the rules though - but how the English refs have decided to interpret them.

As made clear in the ifab statement earlier in the thread; handballs from ricochets or where the player cant see the ball are a separate case, where a penalty isnt always given.

The rule is fine - or as crap as it has ever been. The problem is the incompetent/corrupt PL-refs
 

SE Spurs

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Aug 12, 2018
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If the refs haven't got the bollocks to ever stick with their original pen decisions. I'd rather they just listened to the fucker in their ear, and give the pen or not. Him walking over and looking at the monitor doesn't add tension and excitement for me. Just annoyance, anger and boredom waiting for the inevitable fucking outcome, and wasting every ones time.
 

TH1239

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Jan 28, 2011
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This week will be decisive for Mourinho's reign at the club. In the end, the result is all that matters, and after three fairly straightforward matches, Spurs only have 4 points. With Son injured, the Chelsea and United matches will become much more difficult. The Thursday game is more important than the cup match. This season is entirely about winning the Europa League, as finishing top 4, even if the squad is easily good enough, is going to be a challenge, as we will not see the best players together until January or later.
 

C0YS

Just another member
Jul 9, 2007
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That's nice quoting that. But those aren't the laws.

These are

It is an offence if a player:

  • deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
  • scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
  • after the ball has touched their or a team-mate’s hand/arm, even if accidental, immediately:
    • scores in the opponents’ goal
    • creates a goal-scoring opportunity
  • touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
    • the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
    • the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:

  • directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
  • directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
  • if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger
  • when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body

By the laws of the game, it's a handball. In fact that whole article is completely at odds with the laws they actually introduced. I suspect they didn't realise the consequences of what they actually created.
 

stonebrow

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Jun 28, 2012
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I remember the Chris Foy match which was probably the last time I felt like this and then there was the Paul Robinson 'foul' in Sevilla in the UEFA Cup.
Been so many to be fair, being denied CL place due to Chelsea winning the thing!
 
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