tommo84
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There’s no way they win the FA Cup, but agree that it would be very Chelsea to somehow beat Liverpool in the EFL Cup final.
Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread
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Just think we could have got Ndombele from Lyon…. Maybe that Lo Celso fella too.
wakefieldyid
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The Guardian seems to be in no doubt that they are well and truly screwed.... https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/05/todd-boehlys-chelsea-are-a-1bn-mess (They use Swiss Ramble's analysis of Chelsea's current financial status to explain that there really is little hope that they can avoid seriously missing the PL's sustainability criteria, and this is entirely down to the mismanagement of the club post Abramovic. The article also makes the point that, after basking in all the initial publicity, Todd B has virtually disappeared off the radar.)
Yiddo100
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ItsBoris
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I think it's a bit unfair because Potter was the one who screwed it up in the first place, killing the team's confidence. Now Poch has to come in and try to glue all the broken pieces back together - much harder than breaking it in the first place.
It's similar to how Moyes failure at Man Utd made the job so much more difficult for everyone who followed.
Ofc I put more blame on that idiot owner for dumb transfers and sacking Tuchel to begin with, but Potter did not do a good job even with all consideration of the circumstances.
Trix
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And neither is Poch.
ItsBoris
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Yeah but my point is it's much more difficult to do well once the chalice is already poisoned by the previous guy
Look at Man United - 5 managers after Moyes and all struggled to get the team performing basically because of the damage one man did
nailsy
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Who would sign Palmer from Chelsea for £80m? It's pretty obvious really.... Chelsea.
...or Twitter for the last month or so where the idea has been doing the rounds since it became clear that Chelsea were going to be failing the financial rules without some pretty miraculous selling.
only1waddle
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Don't be silly, they'd wildly overpay double that..
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Trix
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Yeah not sure that's the crux of it tbh. Ange came in after Jose and Conte and seems to have done alright. I'm not expecting him to turn them into a CL side in the time he's been there but the fact is Chelsea are underperforming and not getting any better and yet he's picking the same team, same tactics and same formation over and over.
Trix
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Mate it's been known for a while by those who understand it. I only posted in the other day because I'd had it spelled out to me by those who do.
ItsBoris
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Ange is kind of the exception that proves the rule though. I think that's why we're all so impressed with what he's done.
Plus I don't think those two managers really ruined things the same way potter and moyes did at their clubs. Not saying Poch has done well obviously it's just I don't see how he could possibly do well given how much Potter and Boehly took a sledgehammer to what was a pretty decent foundation before them.
Trix
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I just think a lot of folks are making excuses for him for nostalgic reasons. Yes the club is in a mess but he's got a lot of good young players there. Are they worth the money they paid for them? No, but they are a lot better than they've been showing.
L.A. Yiddo
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L.A. Yiddo
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People getting ANGRY
Poch had the right team at the right time with the right tactics and it was magic. Over time, his tactics didn't evolve fast enough as other team's adapted. We saw it at the end here, at PSG and now at Chelsea. He inherited a mess but he doesn't seem to be able to adapt to what is at hand. I love the guy and cherish his time here but am unsure about what level he is capable of coaching at any more.
ItsBoris
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Well lets put it this way - do you think if Poch came in after Tuchel he would have done as poorly as he's doing now? I think he would have done a hell of a lot better than Potter did. They've also had a ton of injuries this season to be fair. I agree they do have a decent group of players who should be doing better, but what's also super important is the collective mood and confidence of the group, which was shattered last year and hasn't recovered.
I'm also not sure who they could replace him with who could do better. If I was them I'd be tempted to bring Mourinho back at this point but honestly it's a coin flip whether it would work out well or be a complete disaster.
