Arkadiusz Milik

[JayB]

It's been difficult for us for years to bring in an out-and-out striker because of Kane. We obviously need one more option, and for me the solution is to bring in another Son type who can play wide forward or up top. We're far more likely to get the necessary quality that way IMO.

 

[he is you know!]

It's been difficult for us for years to bring in an out-and-out striker because of Kane. We obviously need one more option, and for me the solution is to bring in another Son type who can play wide forward or up top. We're far more likely to get the necessary quality that way IMO.

I really rate Thuram, is a threat wherever he plays. Prob serious money and competition but worth it.

 

[Metalhead]

Yeah, it'd be nice. It makes you feel brow beaten before you even bother to read into the link.

It really does- I guess that’s why it probably is just worth getting excited when they are holding up the scarf in the official club photo.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's been difficult for us for years to bring in an out-and-out striker because of Kane. We obviously need one more option, and for me the solution is to bring in another Son type who can play wide forward or up top. We're far more likely to get the necessary quality that way IMO.

Sorry mate I know what you’re saying but I just don’t buy this.
So many top clubs have 2-4 top strikers it can’t be that hard to find one willing to come, the issue is more will levy stump up the money?

man.city - aguero & jesus
Chelsea - giroud, abraham, batsuyai + werner on his way
Lpool - firminiho + origi
Man.u - martial, rashford, ighalo + they’ll sign another in summer
Leicester - Vardy ienacho perez
Arsenal - Aubameyang & lacazette!
Everton - richarlison, DCL, kean, touson
Wolves - Jiminez, Jota, Neto

you’re seriously saying that as champions league finalists we have to get yet another Makeshift AM who can play as a striker if needed because not a single half decent striker in the world is will to come and try and compete with kane know that they’re virtually guaranteed at least 15-20 games a season and probably more if they impress as Jose could play them together?

I think poch was reluctant to play 2 strikers together so that had an impact but trust me Jose would use the back up option loads to keep Kane fresh and to play 2 up top from time to time to add a different dynamic to our attack.

we can do better than a llorente or Jansen.

 

[JayB]

Sorry mate I know what you’re saying but I just don’t buy this.
So many top clubs have 2-4 top strikers it can’t be that hard to find one willing to come, the issue is more will levy stump up the money?

man.city - aguero & jesus
Chelsea - giroud, abraham, batsuyai + werner on his way
Lpool - firminiho + origi
Man.u - martial, rashford, ighalo + they’ll sign another in summer
Leicester - Vardy ienacho perez
Arsenal - Aubameyang & lacazette!
Everton - richarlison, DCL, kean, touson
Wolves - Jiminez, Jota, Neto

you’re seriously saying that as champions league finalists we have to get yet another Makeshift AM who can play as a striker if needed because not a single half decent striker in the world is will to come and try and compete with kane know that they’re virtually guaranteed at least 15-20 games a season and probably more if they impress as Jose could play them together?

I think poch was reluctant to play 2 strikers together so that had an impact but trust me Jose would use the back up option loads to keep Kane fresh and to play 2 up top from time to time to add a different dynamic to our attack.

we can do better than a llorente or Jansen.

We don't pay City, Chelsea, United, Liverpool or Arsenal wages though do we? And none of the other clubs listed have Harry Fucking Kane. That's the crux of the issue, every striker we're linked with knows that they have no hope of being anything other than second choice and prefer to seek clubs where they'll be starting matches. I was replying to a direct quote from a person purporting to represent Milik explicitly stating that this dynamic is a reason he's not interested in us FFS! I don't see how one can possibly deny that it's been an impediment.

As to your point about a "makeshift AM," that's not at all been the case with Sonny now has it? He's class when he's played up top. There are plenty of versatile wide forwards -- Chelsea just signed one. We're far likely to find another who can fill that remit than get a genuine top quality player within our wage structure who's perfectly content to be on the bench whenever Kane is fit.

 

[emiley heskey]

We don't pay City, Chelsea, United, Liverpool or Arsenal wages though do we? And none of the other clubs listed have Harry Fucking Kane. That's the crux of the issue, every striker we're linked with knows that they have no hope of being anything other than second choice and prefer to seek clubs where they'll be starting matches. I was replying to a direct quote from a person purporting to represent Milik explicitly stating that this dynamic is a reason he's not interested in us FFS! I don't see how one can possibly deny that it's been an impediment.

As to your point about a "makeshift AM," that's not at all been the case with Sonny now has it? He's class when he's played up top. There are plenty of versatile wide forwards -- Chelsea just signed one. We're far likely to find another who can fill that remit than get a genuine top quality player within our wage structure who's perfectly content to be on the bench whenever Kane is fit.

If jesus can play second fiddle to Aguero, Giroud can play second fiddle to tammy , heck even they are now adding werner into the list, why not other striker with kane?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We don't pay City, Chelsea, United, Liverpool or Arsenal wages though do we? And none of the other clubs listed have Harry Fucking Kane. That's the crux of the issue, every striker we're linked with knows that they have no hope of being anything other than second choice and prefer to seek clubs where they'll be starting matches. I was replying to a direct quote from a person purporting to represent Milik identifying this dynamic as a reason he's not interested in us FFS! I don't see how one can possibly deny that it's been an impediment.

As to your point about a "makeshift AM," that's not at all been the case with Sonny now has it? He's class when he's played up top. We're far likely to find another who can fill that remit than get a genuine top quality player within our wage structure who's perfectly content to be on the bench whenever Kane is fit.

Son is not a Proper striker, nor is Lucas and neither suit how Jose wants to play.

We need a back-up striker it’s as simple as that and we will sign one this summer 100%.

You say we don’t have the wages of the other teams sorry mate but again that’s irrelevant, a few years back we had : Crouch, Defoe, Pavelychenko and Robbie Keane. 4 top class strikers. Now we just have one who weve been Flogging for years.

Auba and Vardy And Aguero Have outscored Kane this year And are club stars but did that stop Jesus Ienacho and Lacazette from signing to compete or in Laca’s case from leaving? Nope.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

If jesus can play second fiddle to Aguero, Giroud can play second fiddle to tammy , heck even they are now adding werner into the list, why not other striker with kane?

100% this

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

As Ole said “All top teams and especially Man.Utd have competition for places, it keeps everyone on their toes and raises the level”. This all day long. Sort it out Levy.

 

[JayB]

If jesus can play second fiddle to Aguero, Giroud can play second fiddle to tammy , heck even they are now adding werner into the list, why not other striker with kane?

Because, again, we don't pay City or Chelsea wages. Werner is on wages that approach our top earner. Do you expect us to give the third biggest contract at the club to a backup?

Moreover, Abraham is not as firmly established as undroppable for Chelsea as Kane is for us, and Werner can play alongside him as a WF which is exactly what I'm suggesting we target. This has been a problem for us for years. It's not simply going to disappear, we've got to work around it.

 

[emiley heskey]

Son is not a Proper striker, nor is Lucas and neither suit how Jose wants to play.

We need a back-up striker it’s as simple as that and we will sign one this summer 100%.

You say we don’t have the wages of the other teams sorry mate but again that’s irrelevant, a few years back we had : Crouch, Defoe, Pavelychenko and Robbie Keane. 4 top class strikers. Now we just have one who weve been Flogging for years.

Auba and Vardy And Aguero Have outscored Kane this year And are club stars but did that stop Jesus Ienacho and Lacazette from signing to compete or in Laca’s case from leaving? Nope.

We even had Soldado/Adebayor/Young Kane during tactics tim sherwood era !!

 

[emiley heskey]

Because, again, we don't pay City or Chelsea wages. Werner is on wages that approach our top earner. Do you expect us to give the third biggest contract at the club to a backup?

Moreover, Abraham is not as firmly established as undroppable for Chelsea as Kane is for us, and Werner can play alongside him as a WF which is exactly what I'm suggesting we target. This has been a problem for us for years. It's not simply going to disappear, we've got to work around it.

3 or 4 years ago we scouted werner but werner declined and media told werner won't get much playing time due to Kane. Now he is going to a team that has giroud/tammy/Mitchy batshuyai as number 9, pulisic/willian/hakim ziyech as their wingers. Says it all which club has more ambition

 

[JayB]

We even had Soldado/Adebayor/Young Kane during tactics tim sherwood era !!

Jesus fuck, how difficult is it to understand that Kane's status as one of the best strikers in the world poses a unique challenge to a club that pays wages at the level we do finding his backup? I'm not suggesting it's impossible in a general sense for a football club to have more than one striker on the books, it can't possibly be this difficult to understand the distinction.

This dynamic has blatantly been the reason we've found it so hard to solve this problem despite two attempts at it, but there are ways of addressing it. A representative in the Milik transfer explicitly stated it's an issue FFS!

 

[emiley heskey]

Jesus fuck, how difficult is it to understand that Kane's status as one of the best strikers in the world poses a unique challenge to a club that pays wages at the level we do finding his backup? I'm not suggesting it's impossible in a general sense for a football club to have more than one striker on the books, it can't possibly be this difficult to understand the distinction.

This dynamic has blatantly been the reason we've found it so hard to solve this problem despite two attempts at it, but there are ways of addressing it. A representative in the Milik transfer explicitly stated it's an issue FFS!

I find it just excuse.. Nothing else .. Players will come to a club if we give them the wages like other club offers and tell them the plan of the coach briefly so he understood his role as well..

 

[Deleted member 27995]

It really does- I guess that’s why it probably is just worth getting excited when they are holding up the scarf in the official club photo.

I'd settle for mug and keyring.

 

[JayB]

I find it just excuse.. Nothing else .. Players will come to a club if we give them the wages like other club offers and tell them the plan of the coach briefly so he understood his role as well..

I don't see how it can be chalked up as an "excuse" when the players or their representatives themselves are identifying it as the reason. There's a difference between an excuse and an explanation. I'd like us to sign Ollie Watkins, but there's every chance that Ollie Watkins himself would prefer a club where he'll make 40 appearances. We can't just wave a magic wand and wish that away.

Unless we shell out massive wages on a backup it's unlikely for us to attract quality players who want to compete for places in their national teams to come in and play second fiddle when they can be first choice at other clubs. That has most certainly proven to be the case over the years. We may be able to attract a Janssen or Willian Jose level player, or a Llorente at the tail end of his career, but we need to set our sights on better quality than that.

Son has a phenomenal scoring record as a striker over the years and our points haul has been just as good with him up top as with Kane. There are other players out there that fit that profile. I'd be happy with a Watkins or a Milik, and hopefully we can find a player of that quality because I agree it would be nice to have another out-and-out No. 9, but that's not the only solution to the problem.

 

[daryl hannah]

Jesus fuck, how difficult is it to understand that Kane's status as one of the best strikers in the world poses a unique challenge to a club that pays wages at the level we do finding his backup? I'm not suggesting it's impossible in a general sense for a football club to have more than one striker on the books, it can't possibly be this difficult to understand the distinction.

This dynamic has blatantly been the reason we've found it so hard to solve this problem despite two attempts at it, but there are ways of addressing it. A representative in the Milik transfer explicitly stated it's an issue FFS!

Llorente was on £100k/week

 

[ClintEastwould]

I get the feeling he isn’t that keen, and is hanging out for something else. I’m not liking the agent speak about how he doesn’t want to come and play second fiddle to Kane. Maybe time to move on. The only thing making it viable was the contract situation and the fact Moura could have been used to get the fee down.
I’d be looking at Schick from Roma instead. He had a decent spell at RBL, and Roma are looking to sell. Decent size, physicality, pace and technique. Now if we could use Lamela or Moura in exchange, with the cash left we could replace with Watkins or Eze to help our depth with HG options. I’m expecting it to be that kind of wheeling and dealing summer. Wouldn’t be a bad thing, some major freshening up is needed.

People always complain that we don’t have back up strikers but then fail to realize no striker worth a damn wants to come here because of Kane. We are essentially left with two options - either an aging veteran (Llorente) or an unproven youngster (Jansen). We will never get an established striker near or at Kane’s level until he leaves.

Ah I see someone is already making the same argument cheers

 

[emiley heskey]

People always complain that we don’t have back up strikers but then fail to realize no striker worth a damn wants to come here because of Kane. We are essentially left with three options - either an aging veteran (Llorente) or an unproven youngster (Jansen). We will never get an established striker near or at Kane’s level until he leaves.

we still need two strikers even if Kane leaves... We used to have 3,4 out and out number 9 at our club ...

 

[emiley heskey]

I think we fail to brief strikers how will we use them when they come to the club. They will play with Kane, they will play when Kane not playing.. Why Werner going to chelsea despite they are having a veteran striker like Giroud, upcoming english striker like Tammy and also have 3 quality goalscoring wingers like willian/pulisic/Hakim? Why Werner going there and we don't even get an extra number 9 where its proven we only have two genuine goalscorers(kane and son) at the club?