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Match Prediction

  • Burnley to lose

    Votes: 98 81.0%
  • Burnley to Win

    Votes: 7 5.8%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 15 12.4%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Total voters
    121
  • Poll closed .

Primativ

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Still gutted about yesterday. Two huge games now but what might have been had we won yesterday, would have made the two london derbies far more exciting.

I don’t get why we looked so passive and uninterested yesterday. Had the chance to go two poinrs behind yet we just looked so passive and slow. No urgency in our play.

Very bizarre. You’d have to say it looks like the team simply freezes when we have a chance to push on. Wolves and Burnley, two very winnable games but this side it seems doesn’t quite have enough.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Still gutted about yesterday. Two huge games now but what might have been had we won yesterday, would have made the two london derbies far more exciting.

I don’t get why we looked so passive and uninterested yesterday. Had the chance to go two poinrs behind yet we just looked so passive and slow. No urgency in our play.

Very bizarre. You’d have to say it looks like the team simply freezes when we have a chance to push on. Wolves and Burnley, two very winnable games but this side it seems doesn’t quite have enough.


Im still blaming it on the gap Inbetween our previous game & yesterdays. When we don't seem to have time to come up for air, so to speak, we seem to get results when everyone else is saying we'll drop points because we've had no time to have a rest between games.

However, every time we have an interruption, something to break our flow, if you will, we just look rusty & have lost our mojo. The brilliance of the display and result against Dortmund was pretty much forgotten by the time yesterday's match came round. 10 days to wait. I'd bet it would've been a much different result & performance if we played yesterday's game the weekend after that Dortmund match.

That's why a few of us are slightly concerned about the upcoming 3 weeks without a game.
 

werty

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Im still blaming it on the gap Inbetween our previous game & yesterdays. When we don't seem to have time to come up for air, so to speak, we seem to get results when everyone else is saying we'll drop points because we've had no time to have a rest between games.

However, every time we have an interruption, something to break our flow, if you will, we just look rusty & have lost our mojo. The brilliance of the display and result against Dortmund was pretty much forgotten by the time yesterday's match came round. 10 days to wait. I'd bet it would've been a much different result & performance if we played yesterday's game the weekend after that Dortmund match.

That's why a few of us are slightly concerned about the upcoming 3 weeks without a game.
We've performed like yesterday for most of the season, whether we had a three day, one week or two week break. Only difference is we were n the receiving end of a late goal.

We've scored one first half goal in the last nine games and have changed formations at half time in the most of those games. I'd say how we're preparing games is the most concerning aspect.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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We've performed like yesterday for most of the season, whether we had a three day, one week or two week break. Only difference is we were n the receiving end of a late goal.

We've scored one first half goal in the last nine games and have changed formations at half time in the most of those games. I'd say how we're preparing games is the most concerning aspect.


I know, throughout the season, our 'performances' have often echoed yesterdays, but there's generally been a few positives to take from the game.

Yesterday was pretty much a shit show from everyone, from Poch right down to the first name on his team sheet.

Speaks volumes when it appears the best performance came from someone who hasn't played for 6 weeks & almost certainly isn't match fit. Then again, was it his inclusion that ultimately affected the flow from the winning run that was achieved in his absence?

Anyway, my point was it was a shit show from to to bottom yesterday. Hopefully its just one of those bad day in the office scenarios.
 

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
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Oct 17, 2006
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This is the sort of game where you needed Alli. Someone who can get at them and isn’t scared of getting involved in a battle. Today our midfield was shocking.

We need to pick ourselves up because there is still a battle for top 4 if we aren’t too careful, stop thinking about the title, we were always outsiders anyway, that hope died after the Wolves game. Concentrate on keeping hold of 3rd and progress in CL.
Dele was not available so the point is moot
 

werty

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Over rated achievement as not drawing games is only good if you win. I would have taken a draw yesterday
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Bulletspur

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You expect it from some predictable pundits and wind up merchants on Talkshite, because they are not even fit to be called pundits, but why is it that some of our own fans desperate to call us bottle jobs every time we lose a match. It's football and it happens, teams lose football matches it's a fact, even Man City were turned over by Newcastle and Leicester not very long ago, does that make them bottle jobs ?

Some teams lose more that others, many in this league have lost far more games than us this season and in the last 3 seasons before that, does that mean that every team who has lost more that us cumulatively over the last 3 and a half seasons are all bottle jobs ?

Burnley are in a really good run of form and very recently they stopped an in form Man Utd in their tracks at Old Trafford. This was always going to be a tough game, we weren't as shit as some have been saying on here today IMHO. We have clearly had better days that goes without saying, it was a very close game and they just edged it, we could have settled for the draw but we chose to take a few risks by trying to gain all three points in the last 15 minutes and it backfired. Shit happens sometimes when you take risks but that doesn't make us a weak bunch of bottle jobs on the strength of one game FFS...

Rant over, now let's come back strongly by putting paid to Chelsea and Arsenal's top 4 chances next week and leave them sweating on the lottery of the Europa League.
I may be wrong but I think its the frustration of how we lost. The wrong team, tactics and game management were deployed by Poch, resulting ina very dire and frustrating performance from the team. We lost 1-0 to Mau but I am sure everyone held their heads high as although we lost, we outplayed and was the better team by far. Burnley's match was the opposite in terms of Selection, prep and game management, so you can excuse them for believing we threw away the game because I do believe we did.
 

werty

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How can it be hind sight when I said so before the match even kicked off? Idiot
Sorry, thought you meant during the game.

Either way, a draw wouldn't have been a good result anyway and settling for one from the start even worse.
 

Stamford

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What do you mean by these kind of games? During the game it said we'd won 13 out of 13 against bottom half clubs before yesterday. It was little to do with motivation. Even less to do with a 10 day break as others have mentioned.

The kind of games like this one and the wolves one where the team seem lethargic after a week of title talk. Clearly something is wrong
 

spursbhoy67

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Liverpool drawing today makes yesterday's loss even more annoying. Not from the perspective of being in the title race, but the chance to solidify our top four place and chase down second.

Could do with City and Chelsea going to extra time.
 

TwanYid

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I knew some world class numpty would come out with this.

I've searched high and low for any kind of info on this Numpty guy yet thus far, nothing. However, if as you say he's "world class" then we definitely ought to try and sign him. C'mon Daniel- get it done.
 
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Kiedis

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There are games that the back 3 is suited for. Yesterday was not that game.

Dunno, we played our wingbacks absurdly high when we had the ball (quite often the highest players on the pitch). Think we wanted to either stretch their back four our force the wingers so low that they became a back 6 and give us space in in midfield in front of their defence. With a back three we'd still be 3 v. 2 against their forwards and able to cover their endless balls into the wide channels.

I don't think it was a shabby idea on the drawing board, but I it's only fair to say that Burnley executed their game plan excellently and managed to maintain their shape no matter how we tried to manipulate it.
 

Sir Henry

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Kane changed the way we shaped up and I think without him we would have won, having Kane on completely eliminated Son.
 

n17er

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Who up until very very recently has every game done several rash things - got too tight and turned, ragdolled by stronger players, and put the team under pressure.

He might be bigger than Foyth, but it was still largely the same type of errors.

In recent games it looks like he is learning, and coming to terms with it, but there is an example of a young player developing his game, for a team chasing a title, whose errors have been absorbed and the side carry's on it's business.
Sanchez was miles ahead in his development when he arrived at the club having played at least one full season for Ajax including a European final. You can't compare the two. Foyth is a baller but needs to learn when to take the risks. He does look very slight and couldn't cope with Burnleys muscular approach. That said I wouldn't blame him for the loss. The team did not perform.
 

dagraham

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Kane changed the way we shaped up and I think without him we would have won, having Kane on completely eliminated Son.

Not sure I agree with that. Burnley just didn’t allow Son any time and space to pick up the ball and turn. They were also very organised at the back and didn’t give Son a lot of space to run into. I don’t think Kane playing changed that.

We lost that game imo simply because we couldn’t handle their physical approach and failed to move the ball quickly enough when we did get any space to attack.

I still don’t understand the selection of Foyth. An excellent player on the ball, but someone who is not suited at this stage in his career with the way he plays for a team like Burnley. Instead we left out a quick physical defender like Sanchez.
 
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