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rossdapep

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Could say we have gone back to it last window. Gedson and steve are fairly similar purchases (given the increase in transfer fees). Young with potential. Unless you mean just English ones. I’ve a feeling Poch had a lot to do with it, we stopped buying young players under him.
I think as soon as we started to become a serious team in the league and Europe he wanted only the best of the world's potential, players in the verge of becoming big (De Ligt, De Jong, etc). Whilst I agreed with it, his belief of "them or nothin" has set this club back now. If he'd have compromised on young British talent instead, I think he'd still be our coach. Afterall, it was a blend of young British talent (Kane, Alli, Walker, Rose, Dier) and European players who were approaching their peak (Toby, Hugo, Jan, Dembele) that gave him the best tools to allow his high energy press to work so well. He should have stuck with young players who had the intensity to continue it.
 

KILLA_SIN

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But, but Liverpool are the greatest team to play the game and Klopps a genius of which the game has never seen before...it’s nothing to do with the level of the premier league this season
They said this in the punditry in one of the games I was watching that Liverpool are the best side in the world it might of been last week against Atletico and I was thinking well win something yet maybe win something several times and maybe do something like the treble or win the league three times a row maybe even twice back to back
 

rossdapep

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Watching Lewandowski and Gnabry has me pining for Kane and Bergwijn. Think they could be great together. Hope Jose can mould Sessegnon into a full back like Davies too (not our Davies).
 

southlondonyiddo

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When they’re not playing us!

I still can’t believe Poch wasn’t sacked immediately after that game. Most embarrassed I’d ever been supporting spurs and my god there’s been some occasions!

It was the game after at Brighton. Everyone was hoping/expecting/preying for a reaction and they were absolutely bloody awful losing 0-3 at The Amex

Had to go then
 

southlondonyiddo

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Watching Lewandowski and Gnabry has me pining for Kane and Bergwijn. Think they could be great together. Hope Jose can mould Sessegnon into a full back like Davies too (not our Davies).

I remember our 2nd leg v them. The first 20 mins the two best players on the pitch were Davies for them and Sessegnon for us
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Chelsea look so vulnerable if you, you know, attack them

Chelsea look so vulnerable if you, you know, have your two top scorers on the pitch at the same time like Bayern did with Gnabry and Lewandowski.

Seeing as we are comparing this Bayern result/ performance with our one the other day I can only assume.....who scored their goals again and who were we missing the other day?
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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This is what happens when you attack a team. So different to how we played them

This is what happens when you attack a team due to the luxury of having your two top goalscorers on the pitch as Bayern did with Gnabry and Lewandowski. So different to how we could set up against them thus how we played them the other day.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Lineker just said 'young' side as well.

Mount, James and Christensen. The rest of them are hugely experienced players.

Do love the revisionism given by these pundits to everyone but us.

Lineker said young side?

Cabalerro - 38
Azpilcueta - 30
Christensen - 23
Rudiger - 26 (27 in 1 week)
James - 20
Jorginho - 28
Kovacic - 25
Alonso - 29
Mount - 21
Barkley - 26
Giroud - 33

Tottenham vs Leipzig

Lloris - 33
Aurier - 27
Alderweireld - 30
Sanchez 23
Davies - 26
Winks - 24
Gedson - 21
Lo Celso - 23
Dele - 23
Bergwijn - 22
Lucas - 27

Tottenham vs Chelsea

Lloris - 33
Aurier - 27
Alderweireld - 30
Sanchez - 23
Vertonghen - 33
Tanganga - 20
Winks - 24
Ndombele -23
Lo Celso - 23
Bergwijn - 22
Lucas - 27

Chelsea had 3 players under 24 tonight = young team.

Tottenham had 6 players under 24 vs Leipzig ='disgraceful performance

Tottenham had 6 players under 24 vs Chelsea = disgraceful performance.

Absolutely hate the media
 
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sebo_sek

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Lineker said young side?

Cabalerro - 38
Azpilcueta - 30
Christensen - 23
Rudiger - 26 (27 in 1 week)
James - 20
Jorginho - 28
Kovacic - 25
Alonso - 29
Mount - 21
Barkley - 26
Giroud - 33

Tottenham vs Leipzig

Lloris - 33
Aurier - 27
Alderweireld - 30
Sanchez 23
Davies - 26
Winks - 24
Gedson - 21
Lo Celso - 23
Dele - 23
Bergwijn - 22
Lucas - 27

Tottenham vs Chelsea

Lloris - 33
Aurier - 27
Alderweireld - 30
Sanchez - 23
Vertonghen - 33
Tanganga - 20
Winks - 24
Ndombele -23
Lo Celso - 23
Bergwijn - 22
Lucas - 27

Chelsea had 3 players under 24 tonight = young team.

Tottenham had 6 players under 24 vs Leipzig ='disgraceful performance

Tottenham had 6 players under 24 vs Chelsea = disgraceful performance.

Absolutely hate the media
Ok, did they say we WEREN' T a young side? Is 24 the boundry of youth? Let’s not get paranoid here. They do have a young side with several experienced players.
 

wirE

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Alphonse Davies: wow what a talent he is. I remember him from our friendly game last summer. Bayern threw all of their talents out there against us and Davies was one that caught my eye. I didn't know Canada had soccer players..
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Ok, did they say we WEREN' T a young side? Is 24 the boundry of youth? Let’s not get paranoid here. They do have a young side with several experienced players.

No they didn't but they didn't exactly hold back any negative discussions over our losses due to our youthful age like they instantly did Chelsea last night did they?

As for 24 bein the boundary of youth..... seeing as the youth sides in this country actually go to u23 now I think it's safe to say that 23 is seen as a youthful age in football as, you know theynhave youth teams at that age and level. If so Chelsea still only had 3 'youth' players on show, on both occasions for the games we got lambasted for we had 5.

Fair that Lineker highlighted Chelsea's youthful age and not ours I ask?
 

sebo_sek

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No they didn't but they didn't exactly hold back any negative discussions over our losses due to our youthful age like they instantly did Chelsea last night did they?

As for 24 bein the boundary of youth..... seeing as the youth sides in this country actually go to u23 now I think it's safe to say that 23 is seen as a youthful age in football as, you know theynhave youth teams at that age and level. If so Chelsea still only had 3 'youth' players on show, on both occasions for the games we got lambasted for we had 5.

Fair that Lineker highlighted Chelsea's youthful age and not ours I ask?
It's completely irrelevant. Who cares what Lineker says? He's just a guy on tv. As far as Chelsea go, we could and should have beaten them, young side or not. We simply weren't up for a scrap, and they were. Painful to watch and that's it as far as I'm concerned.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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It's completely irrelevant. Who cares what Lineker says? He's just a guy on tv. As far as Chelsea go, we could and should have beaten them, young side or not. We simply weren't up for a scrap, and they were. Painful to watch and that's it as far as I'm concerned.

Well it's not irrelevant seeing as Lineker has also said negative things about us over the last week or so. I stand by my point and as far as you're concerned? Well that's up to you just like it's up to me as far as I'm concerned about how we approached both games, I think there was a sensible way to how we tried to approach both games seeing as there's a clear lack of goals in the team with injuries and how we opted for a far more reserved approach to what we have been seeing.

We lost in the end but who's to say we wouldn't have lost by more and the 2nd leg be redundant now like Chelsea are facing va Bayern etc.

You have your opinion, I have mine but we've seen plenty of the media go in on Spurs and not many say about the huge misfortune losing what is statistically the most potent strike partnership the PL has seen (that's factual based on partnerships that have played over 5,000 minutes with each other, check it for yourself) yet a Chelsea team with a 38 year old, 33 year old and a few in and around the late 20s/30s are given a pass because they are a 'young team'
 

sebo_sek

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Well it's not irrelevant seeing as Lineker has also said negative things about us over the last week or so. I stand by my point and as far as you're concerned? Well that's up to you just like it's up to me as far as I'm concerned about how we approached both games, I think there was a sensible way to how we tried to approach both games seeing as there's a clear lack of goals in the team with injuries and how we opted for a far more reserved approach to what we have been seeing.

We lost in the end but who's to say we wouldn't have lost by more and the 2nd leg be redundant now like Chelsea are facing va Bayern etc.

You have your opinion, I have mine but we've seen plenty of the media go in on Spurs and not many say about the huge misfortune losing what is statistically the most potent strike partnership the PL has seen (that's factual based on partnerships that have played over 5,000 minutes with each other, check it for yourself) yet a Chelsea team with a 38 year old, 33 year old and a few in and around the late 20s/30s are given a pass because they are a 'young team'
I understand everything you've said. However, what difference does it make of they get a pass from the media or not? How is it relevant in the slightest, aprat from wounded pride?
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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I understand everything you've said. However, what difference does it make of they get a pass from the media or not? How is it relevant in the slightest, aprat from wounded pride?

My post was in reference to the media, hence the top line stating what Lineker said and the bottom reaffirming my dislike for the media.

The media is a powerful tool, has been since it's time began. What I don't like is an ex-Spurs player being a dick to his old club about something yet giving another team such a free pass despite losing by a greater margin and having less shots on and off target than we did because 'they are a young team'
 

sebo_sek

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My post was in reference to the media, hence the top line stating what Lineker said and the bottom reaffirming my dislike for the media.

The media is a powerful tool, has been since it's time began. What I don't like is an ex-Spurs player being a dick to his old club about something yet giving another team such a free pass despite losing by a greater margin and having less shots on and off target than we did because 'they are a young team'
Fair enough. However, I feel that if I got hot and bothered about such things, I'd just get an ulcer the size of a watermelon and have nothing else to show for it. It's just not worth the time. For me, anyway.
 

Ionman34

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Alphonse Davies: wow what a talent he is. I remember him from our friendly game last summer. Bayern threw all of their talents out there against us and Davies was one that caught my eye. I didn't know Canada had soccer players..
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Say Soccer... one more time...
 
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