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Any of them, the only teams to fear are the English teams
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easley91
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The thing to remember is these games won't be played for another month or two. So much can happen in that time, from injuries to transfers in January to a managerial change. We'll have been with Jose for two months with perhaps a signing or two, so who knows? He'll have a long time to prepare for whoever it is.
SandroClegane
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How is Leipzig a sugar daddy club? They buy young players with high potential and have stuck within a budget since they purchased the club. To be promoted 7 times in 10 years is incredibly impressive and their success has largely been built on a strong system for both recruitment and coaching.
Sugar daddy club makes no sense and doesn't apply here at all.
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I disagree. Both City and Liverpool seem worse than last year.
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Liverpool worse than last year? They’re unbeaten and have only dropped 2 points in 17 matches... they’re an outstanding team. City have lost several games but they’re still a phenomenal side.
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Yes, but they are limping from victory to victory. Last season they smashed everyone, and didn't concede goals.
They've got a great mentality that gets them 3 points every game, but their quality has dropped.
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cos we were pretty bad last year in the CL KO rounds?
no. It’s just that I feel more confident with Jose around as compared to our performances earlier this season. I’m not comparing with last season though.
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They’ve got more points at this stage than last season, the only difference is their goal difference is 2 less than last season.
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Yes, and that's down to their mentality IMO. They look considerably worse compared to last season, but now they have the ability to grind out a result.
Can't wait to watch Lewandowski, Mbappé, Ronaldo or Messi play against their defence in the last 16.
They say that a horse onlu jumps as high as the fence it is jumping... thats Liverscum right now... theyre doing enough to win and always have that extra gear to go to should the fence get higher in a game.
Limping i wouldnt say that... id say that theyre doing enough with extra gears spare
Really? Red Bull bankrolled the club from its very existence, do you think all them promotions were down to outstanding recruitment and coaching? They outspent everyone else on their level by miles.
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Very little to be admired imo, at least when it comes to off the field antics. They’ve developed a very good scouting system and obviously have ties with Salzburg, again, another sour tasting relationship, but not for me. Sort of like a much more successful MK Dons scenario.
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But there's a huge difference between how Red Bull climbed up the pyramid compared to how a Man City was bought in the first division and infused with billions of dollars. They started a project in the 7th division. They didn't just buy a 2nd division team and financially dope it. They're not being bankrolled behind the scenes, they're largely self sufficient on transfer fees and how they run their academy.Really? Red Bull bankrolled the club from its very existence, do you think all them promotions were down to outstanding recruitment and coaching? They outspent everyone else on their level by miles.
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Very little to be admired imo, at least when it comes to off the field antics. They’ve developed a very good scouting system and obviously have ties with Salzburg, again, another sour tasting relationship, but not for me. Sort of like a much more successful MK Dons scenario.
Still a sugar daddy club. Without the millions pumped in by Red Bull, they wouldn’t even be the same club that currently exists. Literally. They didn’t just buy a 2nd division team and financially dope it...they bought a 7th tier team and financially doped it! They spent huge amounts to get to the Bundesliga.
Plastic club, without a doubt.
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On top of that the club is literally an advert, and is essentially ignoring the 50%+1% fan ownership rule in Germany.
If anything City are better because at that time the PL was already a play thing for the wealthy. The bundesliga is meant to be different.
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Here's a piece for all of you, examining all three points: https://www.dw.com/en/opinion-rb-le...desliga-and-thats-not-a-good-thing/a-51684675
Recruitment, marketing and ownership.
SandroClegane
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I work under the umbrella of Red Bull global football. Really, the only real complaint I can understand is the changing the crest/club name and their history. The rest of it, who cares?
Because they take players from Salzburg? What's the difference between that and Chelsea loaning 20 players to Vitesse?
Because they market their brand through the team name? Every single club in Europe has a sponsor on their kits. How is Red Bull different to Bayer Leverkusen when it comes to name/logo besides Leverkusen having a longer history?
I really don't understand the hate, especially when City Football Group has far more teams under their umbrella and their owners are legitimately horrid people.
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There's a massive difference between supporting your local team like Philips (PSV) or Bayer (Leverkusen), which they have done for a century and just showing up saying "Yeah we fancy that random club" and try to industralize football.
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On the one hand it's easy to hate teams like RB Leipzig for what they represent, but I have a mate from the city and him and his family are so happy that they have a top level team that they can get behind. There's been a real dearth of top level teams in East Germany so to actually have a side from their city in the Bundesliga means the world to them, and to the city as a whole. They have a great stadium, top fans and I really enjoyed watching a Bundesliga game there. It's not all evil.
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