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Club Statement 19 Nov 19 - Pochettino leaves

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freeeki

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The whole transfer window is full of weird and unhealthy fixations about players who have never and will never even end up playing for the club. I think a thread on one of the finest managers most Spurs fans have ever experienced isn’t that strange up against that.

Which is why those threads aren't in Spurs Chat, one would assume
 

CornerPinDreamer

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This thread reminds me of this room/guy.

Alan's Obsessed Fan - I'm Alan Partridge - BBC - YouTube's Obsessed Fan - I'm Alan Partridge - BBC - YouTube

While we're on the subject, please could @E17yid's account be deleted? He cracked a very hurtful joke about me having a Timothy Olyphant poster above my bed [it's clearly a David Bateson poster] and I would honestly appreciate it if he couldn't log into this place. Thank you.

hmm...
 

spuradik

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Koeman sounds completely the wrong fit. But happy Poch didn't go. I think he shouldn't be going back on his word. Also, probably a bad move for his career. I think he should push for the inter job if/when it becomes available.

It's a political move by the Barcelona board and so have played it safe. They are quite unpopular amongst players and fans alike and hiring Poch, an ex Espanyol player who has clearly stated at one point in the not so distant past that he couldn't manage Barca, wouldn't go down well.

In a way I think Poch dodged a bullet with this one, because the situation at Barca is currently untenable for any new manager. They need a massive overhaul and the manager alone can't address that. Koeman is a dead man walking.
 

Barmby Army

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Koeman is Barca's Moyes, he's there to take all the criticism for a year while Barca try to get their shit together. Then in a year or so, when the dust has settled and (they hope) they've sorted out their boardroom issues and reinvigorated their ageing squad, they can quietly bin Koeman off and give Xavi the reins in a situation where he might have a chance of doing a decent job. There would be no point in giving the job to their ideal candidate at the moment, because the club is a mess and he wouldn't have a chance of succeeding.

As mad as it sounds, I think Messi going might actually be best for all parties now. Their current situation is at least partly due to an over-reliance on Messi that has become ridiculous as the years have passed and, as good as he still is (IMO still the best in the world, as he has been every single year for over a decade), he won't be around forever and that transition will need to be made. Lumping that problem in with the rest of their current issues might make the transition easier in the long run, rather than sorting out all their other problems, getting back on their feet and then having to replace a player and a figurehead like him in a couple of years.
 

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Koeman is one of Barcelona’s greatest players and was a star in their greatest period pre Pep, a club legend who won them their only pre Rijkaard European Cup with a goal in the final. If he gets that job and does well, he’ll be very hard to sack. I don’t think it’s a given that he’d just be keeping the seat warm for Xavi.
 

freeeki

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I’m not sure there’s any such thing as being “very hard to sack” when you’re Barcelona manager tbh
 

thekneaf

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New opinion on Poch and Barca. If you lose to Bayern 8-2 and sack your manager, can you really replace him with the guy who lost his job losing to Bayern 7-2?
 

'O Zio

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Or Poch was approached, the barca board leaked his name to the press, the supporters let their feelings about Poch be known so the barca board turned their attention to Koeman.

If the players weren't keen on Poch because they didn't think he has achieved enough, I don't see why they would be keen on Koeman who has achieved even less as a manager if anything.
 

spursfan77

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If the players weren't keen on Poch because they didn't think he has achieved enough, I don't see why they would be keen on Koeman who has achieved even less as a manager if anything.

Explayer though isn’t he. Probably why they’ve gone for him. Plus the current directors are expected to be replaced at the next elections next year so maybe they aren’t too bothered and have gone for the cheaper option.
 

'O Zio

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Explayer though isn’t he. Probably why they’ve gone for him. Plus the current directors are expected to be replaced at the next elections next year so maybe they aren’t too bothered and have gone for the cheaper option.

I know he's an ex player but I think that gets blown out if proportion. Half the players presumably arent boyhood Barca fans and even if they were would hardly remember Koeman as a player.

I suspect you're probably right with the latter, just using him as a cheap temporary option to tide them over.
 

Jody

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I know he's an ex player but I think that gets blown out if proportion. Half the players presumably arent boyhood Barca fans and even if they were would hardly remember Koeman as a player.

I suspect you're probably right with the latter, just using him as a cheap temporary option to tide them over.
Keeps the fans happy / happier. More than an ex Espanyol player would.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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If the players weren't keen on Poch because they didn't think he has achieved enough, I don't see why they would be keen on Koeman who has achieved even less as a manager if anything.

Think Koeman has more silverware as a player and manager than Poch will ever see.
 

Spartanspurs

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Koeman is Barca's Moyes, he's there to take all the criticism for a year while Barca try to get their shit together. Then in a year or so, when the dust has settled and (they hope) they've sorted out their boardroom issues and reinvigorated their ageing squad, they can quietly bin Koeman off and give Xavi the reins in a situation where he might have a chance of doing a decent job. There would be no point in giving the job to their ideal candidate at the moment, because the club is a mess and he wouldn't have a chance of succeeding.

As mad as it sounds, I think Messi going might actually be best for all parties now. Their current situation is at least partly due to an over-reliance on Messi that has become ridiculous as the years have passed and, as good as he still is (IMO still the best in the world, as he has been every single year for over a decade), he won't be around forever and that transition will need to be made. Lumping that problem in with the rest of their current issues might make the transition easier in the long run, rather than sorting out all their other problems, getting back on their feet and then having to replace a player and a figurehead like him in a couple of years.
So what you're saying is... We're going to sign Messi?
 

Shadydan

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Explayer though isn’t he. Probably why they’ve gone for him. Plus the current directors are expected to be replaced at the next elections next year so maybe they aren’t too bothered and have gone for the cheaper option.

It's a political move - My Barca supporting mate hates Bartomeu (The president) says he is useless, wants to keep the status quo and the board happy, Koeman isn't likely to over step the mark nor get the fans to turn against the board.
 
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