Club Statement 19 Nov 19 - Pochettino leaves

[nasescoba1985]

It’s not the fans fault that Pochettino was sacked. He holds the fans in high regard and said it in his recent statement. No way in a million years is Pochettino ruining his legacy with us.

 

[rossdapep]

Loyalty is a two-way street. Levy and the club showed no loyalty to Pochettino.

First bad season and he was out of the door. I have no doubt the club and Levy were talking to Jose behind Poch's back.

True but should he use that against the fans who have adored him and appreciated him?

Leaving the rivalry aside for a moment, it makes no sense him going there, especially when other more beneficial options could be available.

Only way I see it happening is if in the summer none of United, PSG, Madrid, Milan come in for him and he's faced with the prospect of no job. Only then it would be smart of him to take it as he'd need to remain in the public eye - staying out the game for too long can destroy careers.

However, I DO see one of these positions being available to him.

 

[fuzzylogic]

Don't see him going to that filth up the road. Seems loyal to the clubs he's managed before even though we fired him. He's got the man ure job in my own opinion

 

[Spurs 1961]

Don't see him going to that filth up the road. Seems loyal to the clubs he's managed before even though we fired him. He's got the man ure job in my own opinion

Poch will never go to Barcelona because of his loyalty to Espanyol. I can't see him going to Arsenal, at this stage in his career anyway, out of respect. ManU maybe but perhaps he is looking at Spain or PSG first, maybe even Bayern. I could be wrong and who knows what might happen if Arsenal offer him what DL (apparently) didn't ... money to buy the players he wanted with the wages to match

 

[TorontoYid]

Loyalty is a two-way street. Levy and the club showed no loyalty to Pochettino.

First bad season and he was out of the door. I have no doubt the club and Levy were talking to Jose behind Poch's back.

The club never really supported him given the lack of investment vs players we needed and he wanted. Yes, Levy said Poch didn't want any old panic buy player but he should have gone out and got the ones he did want.

Regardless though, it seems common opinion here that his tactics were lacking and more than a few people here were of the opinion he had to go due to the bad results of the one bad season.

 

[Hercules]

Loyalty is a two-way street. Levy and the club showed no loyalty to Pochettino.

First bad season and he was out of the door. I have no doubt the club and Levy were talking to Jose behind Poch's back.

Respectfully, stop reading the propaganda of certain outlets. Poch was fully aware at all times. It had been brewing for 18 months. It got to the point where our main players (some) wanted out, and 100% would of wanted out end of season. And on present form, relegation scrap was a real grave reality. Plus his moods that he carried for a good while, creating a toxic atmosphere around the place. Plus much more. I have no ill against him. And I think he went as far as he could with us. So don’t lay disloyalty at the door of the board. He also knew what was going on.

 

[Hotspur33]

If I'm Poch, I'm waiting for PSG. Former club, he always wanted to return to. He would win a trophy and get that monkey off his back and he would get exposure from CL.
I'd be shocked if he took on Arsenal. Would surely only take it out of spite

 

[Primativ]

Poch should have gone in the summer. From what I heard today from a source who would definitely know what’s going on at the club, it was a huge shock Poch didn’t leave / get sacked in the summer.

Oh and apparently Mourinho is going to have plenty of money to spend in the next two windows.

Nothing groundbreaking but will let the mods know if they ask me.

 

[arnoldlayne]

Respectfully, stop reading the propaganda of certain outlets. Poch was fully aware at all times. It had been brewing for 18 months. It got to the point where our main players (some) wanted out, and 100% would of wanted out end of season. And on present form, relegation scrap was a real grave reality. Plus his moods that he carried for a good while, creating a toxic atmosphere around the place. Plus much more. I have no ill against him. And I think he went as far as he could with us. So don’t lay disloyalty at the door of the board. He also knew what was going on.

While I'm sure you definitely have much more knowledge and insight into this than I ever will, It's just a bit odd that Levy regularly seems to fall out with his managers - that he appointed. And his failure to communicate with fans/media is annoying at times - he doesn't have to act like Gold at Wham, but he often seems invisible at crucial times.

And nothing changes the issue that he/Lewis/ENIC only seems to give limited financial backing to his managers. Even with the "magnificent 7" we still managed to break even with the Bale money; Redknapp was given Saha & Nelson; MP was given 3 very good players this summer - but one is still only on loan for now and still doesn't make up for 2 blank transfer windows. The ridiculous farce over Jack Grealish was embarrassing and now seems very short-sighted. Graham left after transfer arguments, Santini left after accusations that promises were not fulfilled, Hoddle didn't get players he wanted. Juande Ramos was underachieving but gained Modric at the same time as losing Keane, Defoe, Berbatov for whatever reason within 6-7 months. (Of course historically since Scholar came in this has been the case - Lineker in but lose Waddle, etc, etc).

I get the impression that some astute scouting of cheap but very good players by Pleat et al has helped save Levy's face. The fact we have had a massive surge of TV money, are a London based club with a decent history has helped as well - so I suspect many astute chairmen would have done well in this situation (apart from the chuckle brothers at WHam).

Lewis (& hence Levy/ENIC) has not fully backed the playing side of the club - I accept they may be guaranteeing stadium loans. ENIC have managed to somehow find the funds/loans for financing the stadium and training ground (obviously these aren't subject to FFP rules) - but this is not going to help without the team being backed as a Champion's League regular should be. ENIC has somehow allowed the contracts of key payers to be run down and seem to be floundering in the transfer market at times.

They are lucky that JM was available in the market for a manager change. We have a superstar manager - now let's hope they also give him a team fit for his/our status and the Champion's League club we have become.

 

[gibbospurs]

Poch should have gone in the summer. From what I heard today from a source who would definitely know what’s going on at the club, it was a huge shock Poch didn’t leave / get sacked in the summer.

Oh and apparently Mourinho is going to have plenty of money to spend in the next two windows.

Nothing groundbreaking but will let the mods know if they ask me.

Tbf without knowing your source, I doubt he was close to getting the sack in the summer. His last game before the summer break was a champions league final. And had 4th place sorted.

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

MP should and I believe will be the next Manchester United manager, they are being primed by ogs to be a youthful energetic side.

If United fans can accept and I think they do that they are spurs of five years ago, he is the perfect manager to get them back to the champions league.

United are a project and Poch will thrive in that scenario. As long as they lose against us and don't really challenge us, I will be happy to see him do the job he did with us.

 

[gibbospurs]

The guy came here when we had a Fantastic group of young hungry players, it worked really well. He had a small squad of players. Which he apparently preferred. Once our game plan of high press got sussed out he was basically found out. He had no plan b. Apart from sticking llorette on. But even then he didn’t set the team up to get the ball in for him to use his best attribute, his head. I wish the guy all the best in the future and I’ve watched us play the best football since I’ve been supporting Spurs, I’m 43. That game vs City was fucking heart wrenching with the var. And I thought that was the bollox. But the Ajax game was just something I will remember until I lose my marbles. Thanks Poch. But we carry on. COYS. Not a fucking chance he goes to Arsenal, lol.

 

[Black]

I hope he goes to arsenal, at least we know he won’t win shit

 

[allatsea]

It’s not the fans fault that Pochettino was sacked. He holds the fans in high regard and said it in his recent statement. No way in a million years is Pochettino ruining his legacy with us.

It certainly is at least in part some of the fans fault he was sacked. Have you seen some of the posts on SC wanting Poch sacked. Very sad.

 

[Mr.D]

As a footballer, Sheringham was very intelligent.
As a person, not so much.

I agree. I went to the same school.

 

[allatsea]

I agree. I went to the same school.

was it approved ?

 

[Mr.D]

was it approved ? ☺

LOL. I was a good boy, thank you very much. Only got "in trouble" after I'd left.
Sir George Monoux, Walthamstow. Former grammar school which became a comprehensive but the teachers still lived in the good old days and wore cloaks and mortar boards. Wasn't a great educational establishment.

 

[glacierSpurs]

I always believe that in life, most, if not all, choices are made right not by the decision itself, but by decision(s) of other(s).

I don't believe Poch will go to Arsenal. But if he really does, it is all the more correct that we have parted.

 

[Primativ]

Tbf without knowing your source, I doubt he was close to getting the sack in the summer. His last game before the summer break was a champions league final. And had 4th place sorted.

You have to remember that the CL final glossed over a dismal run off results in the PL and there were already problems behind the scenes. Poch publicly spoke of potentially leaving the club, players wanted out, etc etc this didn’t just happen this season. If this person was surprised Poch didn't leave in the summer, then things must have been really bad behind the scenes last season.

 

[Gilzeanking]

, It's just a bit odd that Levy regularly seems to fall out with his managers - that he appointed.

This has truth ...... but only if you ignore the revolving door managerial situation in numerous other clubs . Poch was with us 5 years , almost unheard of among the bigger clubs . So no, not really .