Danny Ings

[hughy]

I like him but he's not worth 50m in that age. 0.47 goals per 90 in his full premier league career, other 'full' seasons he scored 11 and 7

That's still pretty good. Not Kane stats, but as I say we'll want 3 times that much for Kane next season when he's exactly the same age.

 

[Duskwen]

Part of this has to be the homegrown factor right? If the others we want creative mid and CB are foreign, getting all of them plus Sergio is going to give us headaches as no outgoings seem close

 

[Fredo]

 

[JKendall13]

I don’t know if I want Ings for 40-45m but people have flippantly suggested that we pay that same price for lads that have had one or two good seasons in the Austrian, Portuguese, and Scottish leagues.

The problem with the inflation in transfer fees isn’t guys who Ings who has totally rebuilt his career at a mid table team on his way to being a top scorer in the most competitive league in the world. It’s overvaluing young players from nothing leagues who look good on YouTube.

That’s not suggest that Daka, Edouard, or Carlos Vinícius wouldn’t be great signings, but Ings has proved his worth 100x more than they have.

 

[olliec]

Let’s buy partey just to piss off the goons with that 50m instead. They been chasing him all summer ?

 

[andy00900]

I doubt we have the non-HG slots.

Even in CL we have 2 players we cant register based on players not sold/loaned out yet. Only done a quick look over but I think this is accurate? I'm never sure with the CL "at a club for 2 uninterrupted years"

Spoiler: Incorrect

Thread to discuss https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/homegrown-whats-the-low-down.98335/page-5

 

[Neon_Knight_]

That's still pretty good. Not Kane stats, but as I say we'll want 3 times that much for Kane next season when he's exactly the same age.

I think we all agree that Ings is decent but not the same level Kane.

The issue around the price is that we'd be paying close to our record fee for a sub. He's worth £X to Southampton, or another club who wants him as their primary striker, but only £Y to a club who will use him as a back-up / rotation player. Only a handful of the very richest clubs can justify spending £40-50m on someone who is intended as a rotation player.

His value would be significantly greater to us if he was younger and had the potential to develop into a regular starter. However, at 28 he is likely to be at his peak and has done nothing to suggest he could compete for Kane, Son or Bale's spot in the starting XI. We also have 22 year old Bergwijn who has a higher ceiling in and of the AM / WF roles (and only cost half Southampton's valuation of Ings).

At the end of the day, we could spend the same money on someone in another position to improve the starting XI, which would benefit us more. For example, a top-class CB.

 

[BENNO]

I don’t know if I want Ings for 40-45m but people have flippantly suggested that we pay that same price for lads that have had one or two good seasons in the Austrian, Portuguese, and Scottish leagues.

The problem with the inflation in transfer fees isn’t guys who Ings who has totally rebuilt his career at a mid table team on his way to being a top scorer in the most competitive league in the world. It’s overvaluing young players from nothing leagues who look good on YouTube.

That’s not suggest that Daka, Edouard, or Carlos Vinícius wouldn’t be great signings, but Ings has proved his worth 100x more than they have.

Spot on. Always sexier to sign someone from another league, especially a youngster who 'could be anything' , fans love that. But a player like Ings is absolutely rock solid and would 100% hit the ground running, which is a massive plus. Personally think the mentality and sheer guts he's shown to recover from his massive injuries and rebuild his career (he actually looks even better now imo) marks him down as someone you'd pay extra for.

 

[ItsBoris]

Spot on. Always sexier to sign someone from another league, especially a youngster who 'could be anything' , fans love that. But a player like Ings is absolutely rock solid and would 100% hit the ground running, which is a massive plus. Personally think the mentality and sheer guts he's shown to recover from his massive injuries and rebuild his career (he actually looks even better now imo) marks him down as someone you'd pay extra for.

But why would we pay so much for a bench player? As long as Kane is fit, he doesn't really have a place in our team. Wouldn't someone like Diego Costa make more sense? Good player who we could get cheap and would probably be happy as a bench player?

 

[Nebby]

I like Ings, but circa £45m is a lot of money for a back-up. If Kane needs a rest, Son could play through the middle with Lucas and Dele coming in alongside Bale. That's still pretty potent.

 

[Montalbano]

Only done a quick look over but I think this is accurate?

Hate to break it to you but we're in the Europa League this year

 

[andy00900]

Hate to break it to you but we're in the Europa League this year

I just copy it from previous years

 

[daveduvet]

I like Ings, but circa £45m is a lot of money for a back-up. If Kane needs a rest, Son could play through the middle with Lucas and Dele coming in alongside Bale. That's still pretty potent.

I’ve stopped seeing another striker as a back up; more as an alternative/rest for Kane

 

[mark87]

Even in CL we have 2 players we cant register based on players not sold/loaned out yet. Only done a quick look over but I think this is accurate? Im never sure with the CL "at a club for 2 uninterrupted years"

Wouldn't Bale count as club trained for EL?

 

[hughy]

I think we all agree that Ings is decent but not the same level Kane.

The issue around the price is that we'd be paying close to our record fee for a sub. He's worth £X to Southampton, or another club who wants him as their primary striker, but only £Y to a club who will use him as a back-up / rotation player. Only a handful of the very richest clubs can justify spending £40-50m on someone who is intended as a rotation player.

His value would be significantly greater to us if he was younger and had the potential to develop into a regular starter. However, at 28 he is likely to be at his peak and has done nothing to suggest he could compete for Kane, Son or Bale's spot in the starting XI. We also have 22 year old Bergwijn who has a higher ceiling in and of the AM / WF roles (and only cost half Southampton's valuation of Ings).

At the end of the day, we could spend the same money on someone in another position to improve the starting XI, which would benefit us more. For example, a top-class CB.

For what it's worth I haven't once said we should sign him, I'm merely justifying his asking price. Which in my opinion, is correct.

 

[Univarn]

Even in CL we have 2 players we cant register based on players not sold/loaned out yet. Only done a quick look over but I think this is accurate? Im never sure with the CL "at a club for 2 uninterrupted years"

Did you forget Doherty or am I just missing him?

 

[wrd]

Did you forget Doherty or am I just missing him?

He's missing.

 

[andy00900]

Wouldn't Bale count as club trained for EL?

Yep, I forgot to check. Assuming we dont use Whiteman/CCV makes Ings a very attractive option

Did you forget Doherty or am I just missing him?

oops

 

[deanostheyido]

Even in CL we have 2 players we cant register based on players not sold/loaned out yet. Only done a quick look over but I think this is accurate? Im never sure with the CL "at a club for 2 uninterrupted years"

Hojybjerg?

 

[gibbospurs]

But why would we pay so much for a bench player? As long as Kane is fit, he doesn't really have a place in our team. Wouldn't someone like Diego Costa make more sense? Good player who we could get cheap and would probably be happy as a bench player?

Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes tho. Maybe Kane has said i want a move next year if we win nothing this year. Maybe he’s said he wants a move next season regardless. So Ings might be a starter next year? Fucking give me a wobble tho. God, hope that doesn’t happen lol.