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Danny Rose on his dream to play for Spurs again, that interview and the racism he encounters

Legacy

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An excellent interview.

The racism he's encountered is shocking and horrendous to see, but he's not wrong about upper management at a lot of clubs. Why does a black manager have to start down the totem pole while someone like Frank Lampard took 2 years to get to manage Chelsea? It's privilege at its finest.

I hope when Danny retires the team brings him back and gives him a shot in coaching if he wants it.
Whenever the topic of black managers comes up, I always think of Chris Hughton. At Newcastle, he did a brilliant job after they went down when they were a mess. Won the Championship at a canter, won nearly half of the Manager of the Month awards. Got them stable in the Premier League and then got sacked, purely because Newcastle's ownership are an absolute shambles, I think.

Hughton then had to drop back down into the Championship for his next job at Birmingham, where he got them into the playoffs. Then he gets a move into Norwich in the Premier League. Guides them into midtable in their first season and gets them in a decent position to stay up in his second season, until he got sacked. They never won a game after that and went down.

Then he had to drop back down into the Championship with Brighton. A couple of years later, he gets them automatic promotion and follows it up by keeping them in the league the following season. Season afterwards, he's still kept them out of the bottom 3 but gets sacked all the same.

Hasn't had a job since. Will probably end up back in the Championship, possibly Bournemouth.

Then I think of managers like Moyes, Pardew, Bruce etc who can do average-to-poor jobs at Premier League clubs, get sacked, then quickly get appointed at other Premier League clubs.

Seems like some people have to prove themselves time and time again while others can just walk into jobs.
 
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mawspurs

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Whenever the topic of black managers comes up, I always think of Chris Hughton. He did a brilliant job after they went down when they were a mess. Won the Championship at a canter, won nearly half of the Manager of the Month awards. Got them stable in the Premier League and then got sacked, purely because Newcastle's ownership are an absolute shambles, I think.

Hughton then had to drop back down into the Championship for his next job at Birmingham, where he got them into the playoffs. Then he gets a move into Norwich in the Premier League. Guides them into midtable in their first season and gets them in a decent position to stay up in his second season, until he got sacked. They never won a game after that and went down.

Then he had to drop back down into the Championship with Brighton. A couple of years later, he gets them automatic promotion and follows it up by keeping them in the league the following season. Season afterwards, he's still kept them out of the bottom 3 but gets sacked all the same.

Hasn't had a job since. Will probably end up back in the Championship, possibly Bournemouth.

Then I think of managers like Moyes, Pardew, Bruce etc who can do average-to-poor jobs at Premier League clubs, get sacked, then quickly get appointed at other Premier League clubs.

Seems like some people have to prove themselves time and time again while others can just walk into jobs.

Always feel sorry for Chris when this happens. He’s a decent manager I hope he finds a club who will stand by him but it seems a rarity nowadays.
 

cider spurs

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Whenever the topic of black managers comes up, I always think of Chris Hughton. He did a brilliant job after they went down when they were a mess. Won the Championship at a canter, won nearly half of the Manager of the Month awards. Got them stable in the Premier League and then got sacked, purely because Newcastle's ownership are an absolute shambles, I think.

Hughton then had to drop back down into the Championship for his next job at Birmingham, where he got them into the playoffs. Then he gets a move into Norwich in the Premier League. Guides them into midtable in their first season and gets them in a decent position to stay up in his second season, until he got sacked. They never won a game after that and went down.

Then he had to drop back down into the Championship with Brighton. A couple of years later, he gets them automatic promotion and follows it up by keeping them in the league the following season. Season afterwards, he's still kept them out of the bottom 3 but gets sacked all the same.

Hasn't had a job since. Will probably end up back in the Championship, possibly Bournemouth.

Then I think of managers like Moyes, Pardew, Bruce etc who can do average-to-poor jobs at Premier League clubs, get sacked, then quickly get appointed at other Premier League clubs.

Seems like some people have to prove themselves time and time again while others can just walk into jobs.


Crikey !!

Reading this has just reminded me how time flies. Certainly didn't feel all too long ago that CH was in our midst, but looking at his managerial exploits, you've certainly moved the time on for me. :unsure:
 

SandroClegane

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Whenever the topic of black managers comes up, I always think of Chris Hughton. He did a brilliant job after they went down when they were a mess. Won the Championship at a canter, won nearly half of the Manager of the Month awards. Got them stable in the Premier League and then got sacked, purely because Newcastle's ownership are an absolute shambles, I think.

Hughton then had to drop back down into the Championship for his next job at Birmingham, where he got them into the playoffs. Then he gets a move into Norwich in the Premier League. Guides them into midtable in their first season and gets them in a decent position to stay up in his second season, until he got sacked. They never won a game after that and went down.

Then he had to drop back down into the Championship with Brighton. A couple of years later, he gets them automatic promotion and follows it up by keeping them in the league the following season. Season afterwards, he's still kept them out of the bottom 3 but gets sacked all the same.

Hasn't had a job since. Will probably end up back in the Championship, possibly Bournemouth.

Then I think of managers like Moyes, Pardew, Bruce etc who can do average-to-poor jobs at Premier League clubs, get sacked, then quickly get appointed at other Premier League clubs.

Seems like some people have to prove themselves time and time again while others can just walk into jobs.
You completely nailed this post. It's unbelievable to me that guys like Steve Bruce and Tony Pulis and Roy Hodgson rarely go months without managing a team but Hughton can't find work right now. When you spell his record out like that, it's hard to understand.
 

chinaman

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Are we partly to blame as we used to jest about Clipboard Hughton. This could have made him seem less savvy as compared to the immeticulously dressed white guys like Hodgeson and Bruce.
 
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davidmatzdorf

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You completely nailed this post. It's unbelievable to me that guys like Steve Bruce and Tony Pulis and Roy Hodgson rarely go months without managing a team but Hughton can't find work right now. When you spell his record out like that, it's hard to understand.
Do you not think it is very easy to understand?
 
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