Der Spiegel Football Leaks revelations

spursfan77

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Nope. If city and chelsea hadn't had oil billions pumped into them they would not have been as good. Everyone else would have been similar.
Well, Chelsea wouldn’t exist today for a start.

Edit. Sorry, I see that’s already been mentioned. Such a shame.
 

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It all seems to have gone quiet on the Mancity/Psg front and as is usual it will all be swept under the carpet ;what astounds me most of all is not one Journo or media person willing to say anything bad about how these clubs not only break the rules but get round the rules by lying and cheating .There is not one of them with the balls or integrity to say this is wrong and city must be punished but then of course money is king and it seems you can buy someones soul with enough money.As a sidebar one journalist said because City,s football was so good that nobody cared that they broke the rules .Well all I can say is that I have not spoken to one football fan that has taken this view and every man woman and child wants City punished and sees no merit in there trophy's and the main opinion of there trophy haul is "so what"
 

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It all seems to have gone quiet on the Mancity/Psg front and as is usual it will all be swept under the carpet ;what astounds me most of all is not one Journo or media person willing to say anything bad about how these clubs not only break the rules but get round the rules by lying and cheating .There is not one of them with the balls or integrity to say this is wrong and city must be punished but then of course money is king and it seems you can buy someones soul with enough money.As a sidebar one journalist said because City,s football was so good that nobody cared that they broke the rules .Well all I can say is that I have not spoken to one football fan that has taken this view and every man woman and child wants City punished and sees no merit in there trophy's and the main opinion of there trophy haul is "so what"
Of course - City's long pursuit of Pep wasn't just about trophies - it was getting someone who could be a shield against any allegations of wrong doing because of his vaunted status as the king of pure football. It was all perfectly planned, really.
 

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It all seems to have gone quiet on the Mancity/Psg front and as is usual it will all be swept under the carpet ;what astounds me most of all is not one Journo or media person willing to say anything bad about how these clubs not only break the rules but get round the rules by lying and cheating .There is not one of them with the balls or integrity to say this is wrong and city must be punished but then of course money is king and it seems you can buy someones soul with enough money.As a sidebar one journalist said because City,s football was so good that nobody cared that they broke the rules .Well all I can say is that I have not spoken to one football fan that has taken this view and every man woman and child wants City punished and sees no merit in there trophy's and the main opinion of there trophy haul is "so what"
Depends where you get your news from if you think it's gone quiet.

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Financial+Fair+Play
 

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I think you will find Eufa and Fifa will do nothing in regards to city and Psg.
They have said they may open probes after ACAS has concluded there investigation
I don't think this council for trading standards are going to come up with anything but hogwash.The operative word is MAY.
This is exactly what Eufa and FIFA want ; its all smoke and mirrors the oil rich of city andPSG will sail on at there own will.
The time to prevent all this was when the Russian Abramovich inflated wages and transfers 12 or so years ago.
Money will always win ;note the greed is good super club league.
 

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The same thing is happening in schools and hospitals. League tables where the rich get richer and every one is left fighting over scraps and having a poor experience.
 

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/football-leaks-doping-tests-and-real-madrid-a-1240035.html

Ramos, Ronaldo and the Controllers

On Sunday, June 4, 2017, a sample arrived at the doping laboratory in Seibersdorf, a town in Austria just south of Vienna. It bore the code number 3324822 and had arrived from Wales. Inside the sealed bottle were 110 milliliters of urine provided by a player from Real Madrid the night before following the Champions League final against Juventus Turin in Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.

Just over a month later, on July 5, the deputy head of the Seibersdorf laboratory sent a report to the headquarters of the Union of European Football Associations, better known as UEFA, on the shores of Lake Geneva. The Austrians had analyzed the sample and found that it contained traces of dexamethasone, a cortisone preparation that has an anti-inflammatory effect in addition to relieving pain. It also increases cognition and concentration and can have a euphoric effect. And it is on the list kept by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) of substances that are prohibited in competition.

It wasn't difficult for UEFA's medical unit to determine which of the players had signed for sample 3324822 following the Champions League final in Cardiff. They were, after all, in possession of documents that matched players with sample codes.

And this sample belonged to Sergio Ramos, captain of both Real Madrid and of the Spanish national team, a player who had won the World Cup once, the European championship twice and who had just become a three-time Champions League winner. He is one of the best football players in the world.

The dexamethasone-case has never before been made public and the file remains behind lock-and-key at UEFA. No disciplinary action was taken, neither against the player nor against the team doctor from Real Madrid, despite all of the anomalies in the case. Indeed, the way in which UEFA swept the case under the rug shines a rather unflattering light on the anti-doping fight in top-level European football.

...and it goes on.

Real have issued a statement, too:
https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2018/11/comunicado-oficial-3
 

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/football-leaks-doping-tests-and-real-madrid-a-1240035.html

Ramos, Ronaldo and the Controllers

On Sunday, June 4, 2017, a sample arrived at the doping laboratory in Seibersdorf, a town in Austria just south of Vienna. It bore the code number 3324822 and had arrived from Wales. Inside the sealed bottle were 110 milliliters of urine provided by a player from Real Madrid the night before following the Champions League final against Juventus Turin in Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.

Just over a month later, on July 5, the deputy head of the Seibersdorf laboratory sent a report to the headquarters of the Union of European Football Associations, better known as UEFA, on the shores of Lake Geneva. The Austrians had analyzed the sample and found that it contained traces of dexamethasone, a cortisone preparation that has an anti-inflammatory effect in addition to relieving pain. It also increases cognition and concentration and can have a euphoric effect. And it is on the list kept by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) of substances that are prohibited in competition.

It wasn't difficult for UEFA's medical unit to determine which of the players had signed for sample 3324822 following the Champions League final in Cardiff. They were, after all, in possession of documents that matched players with sample codes.

And this sample belonged to Sergio Ramos, captain of both Real Madrid and of the Spanish national team, a player who had won the World Cup once, the European championship twice and who had just become a three-time Champions League winner. He is one of the best football players in the world.

The dexamethasone-case has never before been made public and the file remains behind lock-and-key at UEFA. No disciplinary action was taken, neither against the player nor against the team doctor from Real Madrid, despite all of the anomalies in the case. Indeed, the way in which UEFA swept the case under the rug shines a rather unflattering light on the anti-doping fight in top-level European football.

...and it goes on.

Real have issued a statement, too:
https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2018/11/comunicado-oficial-3
This is down to the doctor for not keeping accurate notes. If he'd have put on the notes that he had given ramos the injection there would be no problem as it is not performance enhancing and is only not allowed during the day of the game (even though the effects last 3 days).
This is not to say they should have been let off though.
 

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This is down to the doctor for not keeping accurate notes. If he'd have put on the notes that he had given ramos the injection there would be no problem as it is not performance enhancing and is only not allowed during the day of the game (even though the effects last 3 days).
This is not to say they should have been let off though.
Yes, I think so - in this case, because the King turned up.:

It was merely noted that the Real Madrid defender had received an intra-articular injection on the day before the final of a different medication: Celestone Chronodose. He had received 1.2 milliliters of the stuff in his shoulder and another injection of the same dose in his knee. Like dexamethasone, Celestone Chronodose, better known as betamethasone, is a glucocorticoid and also has an anti-inflammatory effect. And it, too, is on the WADA list of banned substances.
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Because Ramos suffers from "chronic pathologies" in his left knee and left shoulder, the doctor wrote, he had given the player two injections of dexamethasone on the day before the Champions League final. The fact that he had noted down the wrong drug in the doping report following the game was because of the "euphoria" resulting from winning the title and the "specific circumstances in which this doping control takes place." Namely, His Majesty Juan Carlos, the former King of Spain, had dropped by the doping control station to visit Ramos as had the Spanish prime minister.

In the confusion, he had made a mistake, mixing up two similar substances that are subjected to the same criteria during a doping test. It was a "human error," wrote Dr. A., "and therefore understandable." He wrote that he never intended "to infringe any anti-doping regulation."


However, Spanish football (/Spanish sport in general..) is slack on doping compared to other European nations.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/02/10/fifa-uefa-condemned-lack-drug-testing-la-liga-inadequate-spain
Spain’s travails emerged on the day it was revealed that the Football Association would conduct almost 5,000 drug tests next season, double the number it carried out in the 2015-16 campaign, at a cost of almost £2 million.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/ewan-mackenna-murky-questions-surround-spanish-footballs-golden-era-and-people-might-not-like-the-answers-36943284.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/la-liga/9847272/Spanish-football-shaken-by-drug-claims-made-by-former-Real-Sociedad-president.html
Iñaki Badiola, who was president of Real Sociedad in 2008, also admitted on Monday to sacking two doctors when an investigation discovered players at the club had been involved in doping for six years and payments had been made for “strange medicines”.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jan/29/operation-puerto-doctor-footballers-fuentes
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/12092102/Blood-samples-in-a-Barcelona-freezer-could-spark-biggest-ever-doping-scandal-as-Operation-Puerto-resurfaces.html

This is mostly about Eufemiano Fuentes.
 

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All the papers today leading with the possibility that Man City might be banned from next season’s champions league. I can’t see what else uefa can do really if they can prove any guilt. It’s the only real threat they have that will have an effect on Man City.

I would think all the other clubs would be happy too. Especially the team that finishes fifth this season!
 

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This hooks back into the Man City fans vehemently defending their club against their allegations last week.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/nov/24/manchester-city-fans-defence-uae-sportswashing-tribal-loyalty?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
I don't understand how fans can be so pig-headed/ignorant about it all. Even if you are a die-hard fan surely you can still acknowledge when your owners/chairmen etc. have committed all kinds of atrocities and your club personnel have been up to all kinds of creative accounting, there comes a point where you have to say "I love my club, but this is just wrong".

As an example, when Lloris got charged with drink-driving, he was quite rightly condemned by the majority of our fans. We didn't all start ranting and raving about a conspiracy and how he has been framed etc. We said he'd done something incredibly stupid and should be ashamed of himself.
 

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This debacle about City made my day. If UEFA dares to act accordingly is another question.
 

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To mean anything there would have to be a huge ban, because City will try and get FFP destroyed as unlawful in the court and any ban will inevitably be reduced. So give them 5 year ban from the CL. Then they get it reduced to 2 or 3.

What will be interesting, and by interesting I mean absolute confirmation that the PL is even more corrupt that UEFA, is what the PL would do in the face of such a ruling. And I obviously know that they will do absolutely nothing other than receive a delivery of gold Rolexes by courier from Manchester, but it will be interesting nonetheless.
 

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Absolutely no chance the powers that be do anything about it despite a lot of huffing and puffing.
 

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Never going to happen. You punish Man Coty, you better be prepared to punish a few other clubs to. But that’ll just give them more ammunition in starting their super league.
 

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Never going to happen. You punish Man Coty, you better be prepared to punish a few other clubs to. But that’ll just give them more ammunition in starting their super league.
Thing is it suits the big clubs for Man City to be punished.
 

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Thing is it suits the big clubs for Man City to be punished.
Only if they're all squeeky clean/whiter than white and it's only City who have been up to no good, which given the nature of the business and the amount of money that flows back and forth through it, I find very hard to believe. If the other big clubs push UEFA etc to go after City properly then it could open a pandora's box of sorts and lead to them being looked at in more detail themselves, which I suspect they definitely don't want.
 

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This idea of taking EUFA. orFIFA to court does not seem as if you could win against them because no matter how big they are really just a private club that you have to adhere to their rules if you want to be a member.
What I am saying is that if lets say City take EUFA to court over one of their rules and win then they no longer have control of their private club.Football would be in chaos because any league in the world could have any rule they make challenged.
The main problem is that the city owners are only interested in total domination of football and care sod all for the good or integrity of the rest of the premiership or the world game in general .
I thought that Judas would be my ceiling for my hate in football but Abramovich overtook that hate and now city are my most hated subject in football as I say they only want world domination and just don't care for the rest
 
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