Did Pavlyuchenko refuse to take the pen against Werder?
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Spurger King
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Yep, he did say that.
whitelightwhiteheat
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Anyone refusing to take pens should never be given the chance again. Don't care if that means Gomes would have to take them, so be it.
Ron Burgundy
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yeah, he said he didn't fancy it
Maybe he was a bit down after missing two chances
Maybe he was a bit down after missing two chances
Ron Burgundy
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Don't follow your logic at all. In fact I think that's completely unfair, bordering on stupid
It's all about confidence. Would you prefer a player who felt who stood a high likelihood of missing take one?
pjspur1961
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Did he give any reason as to why Pav refused?
Shocking to refuse, especially as you're specialist subject is scoring goals!!
Shocking to refuse, especially as you're specialist subject is scoring goals!!
Sanj
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WLWH - Thats a bit harsh on Pav.
All players have days where they don't feel right or confident - maybe not happy with their performance or something.
I would rather a player actually pass it on, then take a pen when their confidence is down. he has scored pens, and i'm sure he will fight to take pens in the future.
All players have days where they don't feel right or confident - maybe not happy with their performance or something.
I would rather a player actually pass it on, then take a pen when their confidence is down. he has scored pens, and i'm sure he will fight to take pens in the future.
whitelightwhiteheat
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If a striker feels he doesn't have the confidence to score from a free shot on goal from 12 yards then what's he doing on the pitch?!
If the orders from the manager are that you're the main penalty taker for the game it's pretty shocking to pass on the responsibility.
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh cos my general mood has been fucked over this morning. Dunno!
Ron Burgundy
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I know where you're coming from, but penalty taking is more in the mind than the feet I reckon. It's a very different skill to instinctive finishing, and a lot of Pav's goal scoring is down to movement rather than a cool head
And I wouldn't have thought Harry would have given any orders as such. I'll let Pav have this one, mainly because when we did need him to do the business from 12 yards vs. Twente, he did
Gilzeanking
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Bit harsh I'd say . Pav missed his last and he hardly was pulling up trees yesterday ..mebbe confidence low .
I'd say the opposite ,that I applaud him for giving it to Bale...though its comical that Bale comes closer to scoring from 25 yards with a wall in front of him than from the spot
I'd say the opposite ,that I applaud him for giving it to Bale...though its comical that Bale comes closer to scoring from 25 yards with a wall in front of him than from the spot
mil1lion
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I dont think Pav was elected penalty taker anyway tbh. It was only because Bale offered it to him (which was a good gesture on his part) but Pav turned it down. Our penalty taker is VDV as far as i'm aware now, while i'm sure Defoe will be happy to step up aswell now that he's back.
ostrov
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Knowing that he's penalty specialist, russian fans on spurs.ru don't want to believe me. Giving the example when he took responsibility from Ignashevich against England and scored a winner.
I could not believe myself he didn't fancy a pen at 2-0 up in easy game.
I could not believe myself he didn't fancy a pen at 2-0 up in easy game.
tRiKS
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many forwards don't take pens.
Henry would never take a pen he earnt for example. Not exactly the same but still an example of a striker not taking it but i assume you agree the annoying great man should be on the picth despite that?
But it's pav and you couldn't care if he was at the club or not so find it easy to have that view on him. It's not like he's done an Ince in a shoot out. There were several other good players on the picth to take a pen. Bale's pen was shocking but Pav not taking it seems a bigger issue.
WhiteStripe
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Hold up, regardless of what my thoughts on Pav are (not great right now), if a player feels he is not in the right frame of mind, or low on confidence so that he doesn't feel he will 100% bury a penalty, then surely he has every right to say..."you know what guys, I'd rather someone feeling a bit more confident took this one".
It's not like we have a recognised pen taker.
It's not like we have a recognised pen taker.
tRiKS
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and lets not lose sight of the fact that the why's and wherefor'se we're reported to us by Rednapp. If Harry wants us to think pav shirked it, then he'll word it that way. If infact pav's reason was becasue it wasn't a vital Pen and that bale asked for it and pav said "go on them monkey man" we'll not know if it's only harrys version of it we hear.
whitelightwhiteheat
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I've just had a bit of time to think about it. I agree with those who thought I was a bit harsh, it probably was.
To speak generally, I find it odd that strikers don't fancy a free shot on goal from a penalty. When I used to play I played up front and no one would have got the ball off me in those circumstances!! Granted I never played in any high pressure games, so that impacts on decisions.
No worries. The penalty didn't cost us anything anyway, so it's forgotten as far as I'm concerned.
(It was a terrible pen from Bale, mind you, absolutely awful).
michaelden
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That's what I thought when Bale stepped up. Then Harry said he didn't want to take it puts it in a new light. Which is true, if either are, doesn't hide the fact Harry was not impressed with Pav when he should've said, "shit shot by Bale"
spursphil
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Foreman asks the Bricklayer to build a wall, the Bricklayer dosn't fancy it, bricklayer not in a job for very long.
I can't understand the wrapping of players in cotton wool, and how we must pander to their mood swings.
We paid millions for pav, he is paid thousands every week, his job is to score goals.
They will be making annoucements to the crowd next "Anyone fancy taking a pen, platinum members only mind.:rofl:
I can't understand the wrapping of players in cotton wool, and how we must pander to their mood swings.
We paid millions for pav, he is paid thousands every week, his job is to score goals.
They will be making annoucements to the crowd next "Anyone fancy taking a pen, platinum members only mind.:rofl:
