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shelfmonkey

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Too late though. Got to look forward not back.

I agree, but Mourinho will spend a shit load of money on shite (probably), fuck off two years later and we'll be left with a similar problem, players that don't fit a new manager's way of playing!
 

Metalhead

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I agree, but Mourinho will spend a shit load of money on shite (probably), fuck off two years later and we'll be left with a similar problem, players that don't fit a new manager's way of playing!
These days Poch's reign is quite unusual. Managers don't seem to last all that long anyway. You don't bring in a manager and don't back him imo.
 

sammyj

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Spoilt tottenham supporters are everywhere, the worse it gets so more entitled fans come out. This ground of ours is the best in the world and in time so will the team , you realise how fantastic the new ground is when you see Stamford Bridge and laugh when you compare. Levy is one of us he loves the club.
But bills have to be paid give it time and trust someone who has taken us to the very top.
BUT THE FAMOUS TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR ARE THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL
 

shelfboy68

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Spoilt tottenham supporters are everywhere, the worse it gets so more entitled fans come out. This ground of ours is the best in the world and in time so will the team , you realise how fantastic the new ground is when you see Stamford Bridge and laugh when you compare. Levy is one of us he loves the club.
But bills have to be paid give it time and trust someone who has taken us to the very top.
BUT THE FAMOUS TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR ARE THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL
Are you ghost writing Levy's autobiography?
 

Lighty64

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Funny that a lack of investment will now cost them significant money.

Took Man C quite awhile after their take ove and nearly a billion to bag their 1st trophy, they did it because they built a strong squad, when we were at WHL we never had a stadium we could buy a strong squad, and pay the players what City did.

while building the stadium we still never had the money to do it, how hard is it to understand. We have a high debt, what more debt should our owners take ake it to without a guarantee of winning something
 

yido_number1

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Took Man C quite awhile after their take ove and nearly a billion to bag their 1st trophy, they did it because they built a strong squad, when we were at WHL we never had a stadium we could buy a strong squad, and pay the players what City did.

while building the stadium we still never had the money to do it, how hard is it to understand. We have a high debt, what more debt should our owners take ake it to without a guarantee of winning something
Let's just give up and go home then. Leave winning stuff to the big boys that were established circa 2003 and 2008 respectively.
 

shelfboy68

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Took Man C quite awhile after their take ove and nearly a billion to bag their 1st trophy, they did it because they built a strong squad, when we were at WHL we never had a stadium we could buy a strong squad, and pay the players what City did.

while building the stadium we still never had the money to do it, how hard is it to understand. We have a high debt, what more debt should our owners take ake it to without a guarantee of winning something
Mate let it go this club isn't winning anything you can't compare us to city who are mega ambitious.
 

wrd

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I'm not Enic out by any stretch of the imagination, I want us to succeed with them because it's been an incredible journey under them and want them to revel in the footballing success but I'm getting a bit bored of reading how entitled spurs fans are because how amazing our stadium is. I don't remember Spurs fans demanding a new stadium. I don't remember Spurs fans demanding that it also have the capability to play two different sports and be as multipurpose as it is. I don't remember Spurs fans demanding that we spend over 1 billion pounds on a new stadium. So when you keep saying we're entitled because look at our stadium I don't see how that's accurate. Levy and Enic made the decision that they wanted to build the new stadium and not only build a new stadium but also in the incredibly complex way that they did so.

There's no doubt in my mind that for them it's a terrific accomplishment from a business point of view but stop asking Spurs fans to be grateful for something which wasn't and isn't as important to them as what happens on the pitch. Spurs fans would have gladly sacrificed this stadium build if it meant footballing success. I understand the bigger picture that we want to compete but let's keep in mind that we didn't need to spend as much as we did to build a new stadium, I know we're trying to get multiple revenue streams but as fans until we see us regularly putting that money onto the pitch by purchasing players then it's going to be seen as lining the profits of our owners.

Just try and see it from those fans perspectives instead of talking about how grateful we should be. Yes they're morons in our fanbase who take it too far when it comes to Levy and ENIC but I'm not talking about the loud idiots. I'm talking about fans who are frustrated that we are being charged the highest prices in europe, despite not only not winning trophies in the way the likes of Madrid, Barca, United do and yet still charging prices which befit clubs with those kind of successes. Try and understand the frustration that we're hearing we don't have the players available to the point where we have to prioritise either the league or the champions all because of 2 injuries. Take into account we were told that the stadium costs would not affect transfer spending from the horses mouth. Yes we're not entitled to win every game and when you pay for a ticket you're paying simply to watch a football game however appreciate the frustration that comes from seemingly not having the resources on the pitch to the point where we're allowing the bottom of the league outplay us because our team has no legs. That is a failing of the infrastructure and as somebody aptly put it about the stadium and the current squad, there's little point in buying an incredible garage to park your shitty banger in.

I understand the longer term choices that were made to benefit the club with the stadium, but ENIC need to accept that during this period of where we're not quite ready to sit at the big table and the tightening of the purse strings due to the business decisions that they not the fans made, that fans are going to be disgruntled at having to pay the prices they do for what they're receiving and maybe some of you staunchly defending every decision they make do need to accept there's valid criticism also.
 

WiganSpur

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Chances are we'll make one or two really good signings, some in positions of need but also leave ourselves criminally short in one or two areas too.
 

Lighty64

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Oh your mean losers because I thought the game was about glory , sorry thats the nonense they use to sell tat to the fans.

you do realise that better players don't even guarantee to be in that position. if we had better players than Llorente and Moura it doesn't mean they would have got the same goals that got us through to the final. since 2008 Man C have spent 1.85b and never got to a CL final and have had the best manager the last 4 seasons.

when their new owner came in did they have a small 36k stadium? not they had all the infrastructure in place which just needed refreshing and a small build where possible.

like I asked the troll @SirNiNyHotspur but he couldn't answer the questions because he either has no idea on how to answer them with any proof they would have worked or been even possible

when you consider both Chelsea and Man C had spent near on 1b before FFP came in, how the fuck do you expect us to compete with those teams when we were building a stadium? how do you think we could have kept up with them without building a stadium?

most of any profits we made once we committed went on transfers and building what we have. we had a 36k stadium how do you expect that to provide us the same money that both those clubs used?
 

Lighty64

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Let's just give up and go home then. Leave winning stuff to the big boys that were established circa 2003 and 2008 respectively.

why does it have to happen yesterday? if it happens it will happen simple as. both clubs can't spend as big as they did to get there in the 1st place anymore because of FFP. we are now in a position to offer players better wages which held us back during the WHL days. if it happens it's a bonus but if it doesn't I will still be a Tottenham Hotspur fan until the day they nail those 6 nails on to the lid

the trouble is City got there and might even still get punished by both FIFA and the PL. this season they are still in a position to win 2 more trophies, but only a CL will cover the cost. if they don't win it they will come close to not being in the FFP again

Mate let it go this club isn't winning anything you can't compare us to city who are mega ambitious.



since football changed I've been happy to be in the position we are today (more so the 2 seasons we chased Leicester and Chelsea), but I'm old enough to know that you also need luck to be on your side. I don't follow Spurs to expect to be top of the tree or expect to win the cups, I just hope it comes true before I die. it's not ENIC's fault we haven't got over the line, the only season I really blamed them was when we got Saha/Nelson, but as mentioned early why back a manager that's not going to be there the following season

this summer isn't going to be a great one for sure if we don't get European football, but we will still be able to spend more if we hadn't built the stadium which prevented us trying to keep up with the Jones
 

cozzo

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Whatever happens we cannot sack Mourinho. We need to give him a whole season with his players.
 

daryl hannah

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I'm not Enic out by any stretch of the imagination, I want us to succeed with them because it's been an incredible journey under them and want them to revel in the footballing success but I'm getting a bit bored of reading how entitled spurs fans are because how amazing our stadium is. I don't remember Spurs fans demanding a new stadium. I don't remember Spurs fans demanding that it also have the capability to play two different sports and be as multipurpose as it is. I don't remember Spurs fans demanding that we spend over 1 billion pounds on a new stadium. So when you keep saying we're entitled because look at our stadium I don't see how that's accurate. Levy and Enic made the decision that they wanted to build the new stadium and not only build a new stadium but also in the incredibly complex way that they did so.

There's no doubt in my mind that for them it's a terrific accomplishment from a business point of view but stop asking Spurs fans to be grateful for something which wasn't and isn't as important to them as what happens on the pitch. Spurs fans would have gladly sacrificed this stadium build if it meant footballing success. I understand the bigger picture that we want to compete but let's keep in mind that we didn't need to spend as much as we did to build a new stadium, I know we're trying to get multiple revenue streams but as fans until we see us regularly putting that money onto the pitch by purchasing players then it's going to be seen as lining the profits of our owners.

Just try and see it from those fans perspectives instead of talking about how grateful we should be. Yes they're morons in our fanbase who take it too far when it comes to Levy and ENIC but I'm not talking about the loud idiots. I'm talking about fans who are frustrated that we are being charged the highest prices in europe, despite not only not winning trophies in the way the likes of Madrid, Barca, United do and yet still charging prices which befit clubs with those kind of successes. Try and understand the frustration that we're hearing we don't have the players available to the point where we have to prioritise either the league or the champions all because of 2 injuries. Take into account we were told that the stadium costs would not affect transfer spending from the horses mouth. Yes we're not entitled to win every game and when you pay for a ticket you're paying simply to watch a football game however appreciate the frustration that comes from seemingly not having the resources on the pitch to the point where we're allowing the bottom of the league outplay us because our team has no legs. That is a failing of the infrastructure and as somebody aptly put it about the stadium and the current squad, there's little point in buying an incredible garage to park your shitty banger in.

I understand the longer term choices that were made to benefit the club with the stadium, but ENIC need to accept that during this period of where we're not quite ready to sit at the big table and the tightening of the purse strings due to the business decisions that they not the fans made, that fans are going to be disgruntled at having to pay the prices they do for what they're receiving and maybe some of you staunchly defending every decision they make do need to accept there's valid criticism also.
Please can we have this pinned to the top of every thread?
 
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