Eric Dier reveals what abusive fan shouted at him before he ran into stands

[mawspurs]

The England defender was given a four-match ban and fined £40,000 over the incident after Tottenham’s penalty shootout defeat to Norwich in March.

Source: iNews

 

[Metalhead]

It's one of those situations where obviously yes, he shouldn't have done it but equally I don't blame him having a go back at the moron.

 

[Col_M]

Can you imagine it Son or Serge or Rose reacted to every slur aimed at them?

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

I'm all for it. Get a team of cantonas drop kicking gobby fans. Bit of half time entertainment.

 

[Metalhead]

Can you imagine it Son or Serge or Rose reacted to every slur aimed at them?

That is true but then in all walks of life you get people with different temperaments. He can't be doing that obviously but some people are naturally more placid than others. That being said, it's about learning to control one's temper if you know that it's an issue.

 

[Cinemattis]

Can you imagine it Son or Serge or Rose reacted to every slur aimed at them?

The arrogant, ignorant "funny" reply to that would obviously be "Danny would have to google those remarks before he was able to react". But it wouldn´t be funny - at all.

Danny Rose has been one of the most outspoken players in the PL about the racism he has had to deal with. Not only on the pitch, but in everyday life. The interview not so long ago where he describes how he´s stopped by the police every time he goes back home: a non-white person driving a car like that must obviously have stolen the car or is a criminal of some sort. Yes, he has stepped over some lines in his time when it comes to interviews and comments in public/media. But anyone with the slightest insight or empathy (or simple: willingness to open his/her eyes), would have to admit that if every black player had reacted like Dier to similar comments, the PL would be played behind closed doors as there would be more players fighting the "fans" than playing on the pitch.

One part of me understand Dier 100%. And I think the so called "fan" is the culprit. But your very poignant comment, @Col_M , makes a very good argument to the opposite. So thank you.

But the real culprit here, in my eyes, is the hate speak culture that soaks through society. The notion that athletes and footballers should just "man up" and take every piece of verbal shit hurled at them no matter if it is about the colour of your skin, about your family members or about you as a person. The saying about sticks and stones but words will never break me is simultanesouly both the least insightful about human nature there probably is, and at the same time the easiest way to explain everything that is wrong with the British/English perception of what makes a man a man.

 

[Col_M]

Well said @Cinemattis 100%agree.

 

[parj]

The behaviour of our fans is disgraceful at times. You don't need to give personal abuse to a player. Can them shit but son of a bitch?

But at the same time, Dier is a public figure earning a lot of money so he will become a target. However, as hard as it is, he needs to not react like he did.

 

[DCSPUR]

just started to watch the all or nothing series and Jose's comments about Dier are
interesting - basically the only aggressive guy in the squad.
Alli was once considered a Utd type player by Fergie but seen to have faded.

 

[PaulM]

The arrogant, ignorant "funny" reply to that would obviously be "Danny would have to google those remarks before he was able to react". But it wouldn´t be funny - at all.

Danny Rose has been one of the most outspoken players in the PL about the racism he has had to deal with. Not only on the pitch, but in everyday life. The interview not so long ago where he describes how he´s stopped by the police every time he goes back home: a non-white person driving a car like that must obviously have stolen the car or is a criminal of some sort. Yes, he has stepped over some lines in his time when it comes to interviews and comments in public/media. But anyone with the slightest insight or empathy (or simple: willingness to open his/her eyes), would have to admit that if every black player had reacted like Dier to similar comments, the PL would be played behind closed doors as there would be more players fighting the "fans" than playing on the pitch.

One part of me understand Dier 100%. And I think the so called "fan" is the culprit. But your very poignant comment, @Col_M , makes a very good argument to the opposite. So thank you.

But the real culprit here, in my eyes, is the hate speak culture that soaks through society. The notion that athletes and footballers should just "man up" and take every piece of verbal shit hurled at them no matter if it is about the colour of your skin, about your family members or about you as a person. The saying about sticks and stones but words will never break me is simultanesouly both the least insightful about human nature there probably is, and at the same time the easiest way to explain everything that is wrong with the British/English perception of what makes a man a man.

Absolutely right. The "he's paid enough, just take the abuse" mentality is horrible. Sportspeople are people too and this sort of shit has an impact. It has to. People like that at games and keyboard warriors need to reign themselves in. Paying for your ticket doesn't give you the right to hurl abuse at people.

Sepp Blatter once said footballers are slaves and was ridiculed for it. I agree. They're bloody well paid but no one gives a fuck about them really. The rush to get back on the pitch after lockdown, the ever increasing fixture list, the way they are cast aside at retirement, the pressure to play through injury...most in football see players as assets not as people. It's wrong. They're people not machines.