Norvern Munkey
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No .... like all the others it appears to be the Blake Griffin "You are entitled to my opinion" thread
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No .... like all the others it appears to be the Blake Griffin "You are entitled to my opinion" thread
Blake Griffin
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you're reaching with "the other 9". no, i don't count five goals against lapland fc and siberia's finest. he got six in the league with two from open play, it's a pathetic return from a £26m striker. he's just so physically lacking that i see him continuing to struggle. he can't outmuscle anyone, he can't overpower or outpace his opponents. he has nice technical ability, not outstandingly good but decent and he's supposedly a good finisher but he's shown to be far from that for us. i'm quite sure that anyone seeing a great change in him next season is more out of hope than expectation, there's very little evidence to suggest otherwise.
JerryGarcia
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I think it's safe to say Lamela isn't going anywhere, not with all the work he's put in since his injury.
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Blake Griffin
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maybe you should take it up with those who started it a few pages back?
put me on ignore then, you're obviously riled.
Norvern Munkey
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About as riled as I get when I spill a few grains of sugar on the worktop
JerryGarcia
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The thing is a lot of strikers look like that when they're low on confidence and when he was at Valencia he would score in patches similar to Defoe when he was at his peak for us. Soldado didn't hit a goal streak and fluffed some great chances, we know he could have put those ones away if he was in form so lets just see what Poch can do with him. If we can get him the ball early enough and more frequently then he will score goals, he always has done.
Not to mention the other side of his game that we've seen in pre season, he's linked up well and set up 3 goals. Yes it was against MLS clubs but it looks promising.
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You should know that no thread on this site ever stays on topic!
This.
The arguement doesn't go beyond this.
Soldado, for all his worth, isn't the type of player who will create his own goals (Bale/Ronaldo/Messi as the better examples). He's a goalscorer, and relies on the team around him.
Plain and simple.
Whilst his built up play, work rate and touch are fantastic, towards the end, confidence shot (as was the whole teams).
Look at Verts for example - shocking last year, but Barca want him.
The whole team set up from Aug through to June was messed up, it was a constant patch job, and Soldado hardly got a look in after AVB went and Ade was playing.
The worst signing spurs have ever made?
FUck thats bollocks, I give you Atouba, Rebrov, Pavlechenko, Dimistrescu, Jose Dimenguez, Tramezzani, Acimovic, Toda, Blondel, Postiga, Zamora, Dalmat, Rasiak...????, Boatang... remember Gilberto?
Thats just a quick few, that have been categorically worse than Soldado.. by a long fricking way.
I guess one negative, is Soldado's price, but thats the clubs fault, rather than his.
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Blake Griffin
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obviously i was speaking in terms of value for money. he's obviously better than rasiak but then rasiak didn't cost us 26 million quid. i thought dalmat was pretty good personally.
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Well Mitrologou, Owen, Alfonso Alves & Christoph Samba cost comparably more to their clubs than Soldado did and had terrible, terrible consequences, whereas Soldado just didn't score that many and ended up a lowly sixth.
Then there's the likes of Torres, Carroll (twice), Downing, Adam, Zhirkov, Santa Cruz, Jo, Robinho, Fellaini, all in the past five years that have been far bigger wasters than Soldado.
Then there's players who cost a lot for clubs with less resources than us - the likes of Darren Bent to Villa or Steven Marlet to Fulham - that fuck those sides over far more than Soldado does to us.
It's not even like we haven't spent a fair bit of money on players who offered even less - Pavlyuchenko, Bentley, Bent, Zokora, Rebrov, Postiga, Dalmat.
Stop overreacting.
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Dalmat good, don't think I've ever heard that before, granted it was a while ago though.
26 mill on a striker you expect goals - thats the bottom line.
But, it needs to be judged in context as well. A striker in Soldado's mould isn't going to bang in 20+ goals without help from his team - only the 80 million pound players do that.
Last year the whole team were shit, and definitely not value for their money, and no doubt their stock has dropped. I'd estimate Soldado at 15 mill tops.. maybe even less. But to write him off without seeing him in a team playing the right way/the same way/ a structured way is ridiculous.
Especially considering he didn't seem to feature much once AVB went (I have no idea on stats, would be happy to have them thrown at me).
My point is, last season is rather unfair to judge one player alone, when the whole team were next to fucking useless!
26 mill on a striker you expect goals - thats the bottom line.
But, it needs to be judged in context as well. A striker in Soldado's mould isn't going to bang in 20+ goals without help from his team - only the 80 million pound players do that.
Last year the whole team were shit, and definitely not value for their money, and no doubt their stock has dropped. I'd estimate Soldado at 15 mill tops.. maybe even less. But to write him off without seeing him in a team playing the right way/the same way/ a structured way is ridiculous.
Especially considering he didn't seem to feature much once AVB went (I have no idea on stats, would be happy to have them thrown at me).
My point is, last season is rather unfair to judge one player alone, when the whole team were next to fucking useless!
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what did dalmat cost us? i'm not sure bent and pav offered less either, or rebrov, or even zokora in his own way.
You are keeping it going and spoiling the Lamela thread as you did the daily ITK thread of a few days ago
Blake Griffin
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i spoiled the itk thread by discussing the latest itk?(which was vorm). as i've said, you can always put me on ignore or report me to the mods if you have to. that or just spam my posts with neg ratings. i will accept that the lamela thread isn't the place to discuss soldado though, even if i only did join the tail-end of the discussion.
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OR we've paid £13million (the real fee) for 11 goals (many from the penalty spot that other much loved strikers couldn't score from) 5 assists, 67% shooting accuracy, 73% passing accuracy, all whilst settling in a new country, a new (tougher) league, dealing with the awful loss of his unborn child, supporting his wife throughout this awful ordeal, playing in two systems that never even came close to matching his ability, playing under a manager who probably even struggles to spell 'football', scoring the goal that finally got the monkey off his back, only to end up getting dropped immediately, despite having perhaps his best game in a THFC shirt etc etc etc.
Each to their own, though.
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Another picture with Soldado: http://instagram.com/p/rKFcL_CUJz/
Seem to be on their way to Finland.
Sandro has just put up a picture with Soldado too, popular guy! http://instagram.com/p/rKFPO1uaqH/
Seem to be on their way to Finland.
Sandro has just put up a picture with Soldado too, popular guy! http://instagram.com/p/rKFPO1uaqH/
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