Has Pochettino’s dinner date with Levy eased the tensions?

[mawspurs]

To Daniel Levy, the numbers added up, and to Jack Clarke, the 18-year-old Leeds winger, it was a dream move, the chance to continue his development at Tottenham in the Premier League. Levy had been alerted to Clarke’s potential by statistical analysis of his performances last season and, at a cost of around £10m rising to £11.5m, the Spurs chairman felt it all made sense.

Source: Guardian

 

[whitesocks]

Who is doing this statistical analysis of players? Or is this data you can just buy?
We would have scouted the player too, but there must have been a senior guy who weighed it all up to validate spending £10m. A shadowy director of football, who I suggested before might be irritating MP. Maybe it is Levy himself.

Levy has a long history of creating managerial conflict. He would have been busy these last few years, but has loads of time on his hands now for trolling, aka 'creating competing management structures to optimise performance' or some such.
Pleat Vs Hoddle, Santini Vs Arnesen, Jol Vs Comolli, AVB Vs Sherwood. It is interesting that Redknapp and Pochettino have been the most successful and were largely left to their own devices.

 

[Lilbaz]

Who is doing this statistical analysis of players? Or is this data you can just buy?
We would have scouted the player too, but there must have been a senior guy who weighed it all up to validate spending £10m. A shadowy director of football, who I suggested before might be irritating MP. Maybe it is Levy himself.

Levy has a long history of creating managerial conflict. He would have been busy these last few years, but has loads of time on his hands now for trolling, aka 'creating competing management structures to optimise performance' or some such.
Pleat Vs Hoddle, Santini Vs Arnesen, Jol Vs Comolli, AVB Vs Sherwood. It is interesting that Redknapp and Pochettino have been the most successful and were largely left to their own devices.

1st of all there is a lot of bollocks in the article. Clarke is 18 so wouldn't have gone into the 1st team squad anyway. As far as i'm aware youth acquisitions are more under McDermott s remit.
Transfers targets are decided by committee, the chief scout, McDermott, poch, perez and levy all decide who they want to go for. Everyone has their say. I'm guessing the statistical analysis would come from the chief scout. Or would you prefer that poch goes and watches the players and does the analysis himself? Maybe leave the training to perez?

 

[Lilbaz]

Who is doing this statistical analysis of players? Or is this data you can just buy?
We would have scouted the player too, but there must have been a senior guy who weighed it all up to validate spending £10m. A shadowy director of football, who I suggested before might be irritating MP. Maybe it is Levy himself.

Levy has a long history of creating managerial conflict. He would have been busy these last few years, but has loads of time on his hands now for trolling, aka 'creating competing management structures to optimise performance' or some such.
Pleat Vs Hoddle, Santini Vs Arnesen, Jol Vs Comolli, AVB Vs Sherwood. It is interesting that Redknapp and Pochettino have been the most successful and were largely left to their own devices.

It was sherwood v baldini if anything. Sherwood felt that we had better players in the youth setup than the targets baldini was going for. Have to say he was right.

 

[Blake Griffin]

1st of all there is a lot of bollocks in the article. Clarke is 18 so wouldn't have gone into the 1st team squad anyway. As far as i'm aware youth acquisitions are more under McDermott s remit.
Transfers targets are decided by committee, the chief scout, McDermott, poch, perez and levy all decide who they want to go for. Everyone has their say. I'm guessing the statistical analysis would come from the chief scout. Or would you prefer that poch goes and watches the players and does the analysis himself? Maybe leave the training to perez?

at £10m and with 1st team experience he's certainly not a youth acquisition, it's also very unlike pochettino to not want a young player with him and the squad so if this is true then it is at least somewhat concerning. i don't know how much say poch had in this signing but i wouldn't be surprised if uncle pleat had something to do with it as clarke has the height and rangy build/running style that pleat likes in players, though i'm purely speculating here.

 

[John48]

What he's talked about for a couple of TW is quality to put into the side, what he's ended up with again is young with potential, so he's not got exactly what he wanted & in Clarke & the boy from Bristol was even younger & not yet ready for the Prem in Poch's opinion in any way.

 

[shelfboy68]

What he's talked about for a couple of TW is quality to put into the side, what he's ended up with again is young with potential, so he's not got exactly what he wanted & in Clarke & the boy from Bristol was even younger & not yet ready for the Prem in Poch's opinion in any way.

Yes but will any manager get what they want here certainly under the set up we have it's not going to happen the odd big buy but mainly young talent to be sold on for a profit.

 

[Metalhead]

at £10m and with 1st team experience he's certainly not a youth acquisition, it's also very unlike pochettino to not want a young player with him and the squad so if this is true then it is at least somewhat concerning. i don't know how much say poch had in this signing but i wouldn't be surprised if uncle pleat had something to do with it as clarke has the height and rangy build/running style that pleat likes in players, though i'm purely speculating here.

Does Pleat have any influence at Spurs these days?

 

[sausage]

Does Pleat have any influence at Spurs these days?

I think he's officially paid as a "consultant", so I'd guess so

 

[Hakkz]

Yes but will any manager get what they want here certainly under the set up we have it's not going to happen the odd big buy but mainly young talent to be sold on for a profit.

I also think that sometimes the club might want to look past the manager for certain youth acquisitions as that's what keeps the club going. Developing youth and selling off for decent fees, unless they actually make it. Poch is the manager, but you also want to have a good group of youth players always ready to challenge for first team spots.

 

[shelfboy68]

I also think that sometimes the club might want to look past the manager for certain youth acquisitions as that's what keeps the club going. Developing youth and selling off for decent fees, unless they actually make it. Poch is the manager, but you also want to have a good group of youth players always ready to challenge for first team spots.

Agree but our big money moves are designed with sell on in mind ndombele for example we will probably sell him on in 2/3 years time for 100m job done for levy and co trophies not important only a bonus.

 

[Hakkz]

Agree but our big money moves are designed with sell on in mind ndombele for example we will probably sell him on in 2/3 years time for 100m job done for levy and co trophies not important only a bonus.

I hope Ndombele isn't one of those though.

Clarke could very well be one of those that doesn't make it with us but still gets us 20-25m in a couple of years. It's good business signing such players even if they don't make it all the way.

 

[BENNO]

As soon as i saw we'd signed Clarke i assumed it was a 'Pleat' signing - as i was under the impression he still did some scouting for us at lower league level ? So the signing wasn't a surprise and seemed very sensible, and whoever signed him would undoubtedly have known he wasn't up to the level of our current squad so i really can't have it that it caused a big problem with Poch that he was signed.

Regarding the fact that we signed young players with potential rather than the finished article a) we signed the cream of the crop of the young players with potential and paid heavily for it b) Poch has a proven record of working with and improving young players, favouring them over more established players.

So signing the best of the young players with potential in NDombele,Lo Celso and Sess for a manager with a proven record of working with this type of player seems an absolute match made in heaven. Cannot for the life of me see how Poch could be upset about that in the slightest !

 

[BENNO]

Agree but our big money moves are designed with sell on in mind ndombele for example we will probably sell him on in 2/3 years time for 100m job done for levy and co trophies not important only a bonus.

In your opinion - obviously the club would look at the potential resale value of any deal but you are just guessing that we would look to sell NDombele on in a few years and that he was purchased with have an eye on doing just that. Might have been the case pre stadium but doubt that is the case now (imo).

 

[Metalhead]

I think he's officially paid as a "consultant", so I'd guess so

Ah, that I didn't know. Sounds like there is every likelihood that he may have had some influence on the signing then.