Is Levy and the gang the problem

[Archibald-CPH]

I'm thinking look at Jol at Hamburg and Ramos at Madrid.

What do You think ? Where is the problem ? What are we doing wrong since good manager can't make any results at Spurs but at other clubs.

And yes love Jol and know he achieved to 5th places. And would he have done better if he had the same possibilities as Harry?

 

[gibbs131]

Yes Levy is to blame for selling our golden gooses. He could have said a flat 100% no to Berbs and keane leaving in the first place.

 

[ackie]

The problem is "stuck up, piss ants, overrated English players"
We have a great director in Levy...he supports and buys players. Unfortunately, we dont seem to do enough to keep the top class players like Berba, Carrick....
Jol was good, but the players were unfit...Ramos was good but the players were too hungry for the wrong things...cars, food and posers...Redknapp is good but has made spurs go back 3 space.
We've had good managers but not world class like Hiddink!!!
We need a no bullshit, hard, match winner, shrewd manager!!!IMO

 

[roosh]

Yes Levy has been largely to blame up until now, as is he due a lot of credit for what has been done right at the club.

what we need now is to just go with what we have. any more changes in manager for the foreseeable future could be detrimental to the club

 

[alamo]

Yes Levy is to blame for selling our golden gooses. He could have said a flat 100% no to Berbs and keane leaving in the first place.

You sure it ain't Hughtons fault? :wink:

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Levy is to blame in that he appointed Comolli and gave him a mandate to buy and sell players for a profit rather than build a balanced squad. That being said Levy is 1 million times better than Sugar and better than most other chairmen, he has done a great job on the commercial front to make sure we can keep buying players.

 

[Rackybear]

MJ did do a fantastic job at spurs, but that clown face commoli thought it would make sense to sack one of our most succesfull managers in years. MJ is just proving his credentials at another club and will continue to do so wherever he goes. (He was even wanted by SAF as his assistant replacement for Carlos Queirez, before we snapped him up).

As for Ramos, he is a fantastic manager and will always be one. It was just wrong place, wrong time at spurs. He needs to learn the language FLUENTLY before he ever takes up a job in this country again. He is doing well at Madrid because he can get his point across to the players, he is in his home country and thriving.

I think it was a mistake to let MJ go, he was made for this club and every fan loved him.

Ramos, his time came. He just had to go after our awful awful start. Although, id take him back in an instant if he could bloody well learn to speak the language properly.

 

[thetallaghttiger]

it's the bloody players faults! After that, then a combo of Levy/managements fault.

But about the players:

They had a good manager in Jol, and let him down.

They had a brilliant manager in Ramos, and let him down even more and destroyed his reputation.
Thankfully, he's already regained his 'great' status. :clap:

Now they have Arry, and they are not far away from destroying his credability.

If they don't pull the finger out soon, we'll be in trouble.

And who'll be the biggest loser out of it all?

Our club, and us, the devoted fans

 

[Wiener]

Sure THFC has problems. That is patently clear. We have been badly run since the early nineties and have an appalling record in the premiership.

Levy has made mistakes, but he has been done a much better job managing THFC plc than anyone else over the last 20 years, and we have made significant steps forward under his tenure. he has identified the key problems and has tried to address them, so far not all succesfully. I personally want him to stay with us for some time and believe that he is our best bet for achieving regular success in the long-term.

 

[nickchrissi]

I think its overated players English like Jenas, Bent, Huddlestone, Bentley that are the problem

 

[PT]

Harry Redknapp has taen this club back three spaces? Give it a fucking rest..

If it wasn't for Levy doing the honourable thing and putting Ramos out of his English misery and getting Redknapp in, we would be thinking about whether to renew our much reduced season tickets right now and looking up Preston in the AA maps.

Mr Redknapp may not be the long term solution but he is the man to put some basic building blocks in place, a foundation upon which the next big ticket Name can build.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Yes it is Levy's fault

He is in charge and has been responsible for all the appointments and departures during his tenure

His ego has sadly undone all his early good work

 

[duffman22]

Levy caused the problem we're in by publicly displaying doubts over Jol, but he's doing his best to take us back there. I really admire the guy for pretty much admitting his mistakes, abandoning a setup he bummed for 7 years, and sacking people he employed in the first place. He's learning from his mistakes, and he's provided a shitload of cash, so the guy has got my support.

 

[fieryjack]

He was at the airport in Donetsk, where he promptly took at shit load of abuse.
Not from me, i might add.
As i see it, Comolli has been his biggest mistake. Let the manager pick the players he wants.

 

[smurf2001uk]

I totally agree!!!!

 

[DC_Boy]

has Levy put money into the club - I thought it came from us fans be it TV, gate money, merchandise etc?

I think Levy has done a lot of smart business deals for us, but he's also done a lot of not so smart ones too

I think overall he's done ok - no more no less

if we're playing prem football in our new stadium in ten years time, then I suspect i'll be ready to hail him as one of our greatest ever chairmen

 

[jrio]

Fans never used to know the name of the chairman. That was a healthy sign. "Greatest ever chairmen" doesn't figure in my historical appreciation of Spurs.

Anyone thinking he's admitted his mistakes has missed a few chapters. He's only abandoned the DOF system because Harry wouldn't accept it. He was desperate. He actually stated that job titles weren't important, but people were, and that he didn't accept it hadn't worked. Cravenly, he used it to deflect any blame from himself when the team would fail. If you want to find a chairman to admire, there are plenty in the Prem - Lerner, Gibson and Cullen to name a few. The duplicitous weasel Levy isn't remotely close to being one of them.

 

[bomberH]

Fans never used to know the name of the chairman. That was a healthy sign. "Greatest ever chairmen" doesn't figure in my historical appreciation of Spurs.

Anyone thinking he's admitted his mistakes has missed a few chapters. He's only abandoned the DOF system because Harry wouldn't accept it. He was desperate. He actually stated that job titles weren't important, but people were, and that he didn't accept it hadn't worked. Cravenly, he used it to deflect any blame from himself when the team would fail. If you want to find a chairman to admire, there are plenty in the Prem - Lerner, Gibson and Cullen to name a few. The duplicitous weasel Levy isn't remotely close to being one of them.

Every fan knows the name of their chairman nowadays so nothing new there.

As much as some think the DOF system was a mistake, it did bring us our best couple of seasons for 20 years. Personally, i didn't like it but you can't argue with the results, bearing in mind we're Spurs and not one of the top 4. The managers Levy hired weren't exactly rubbish names either. Santini, Hoddle, Ramos etc - not Levy's fault they ended up failing. He supplied money for all of them, which is basically the most important part of being a chairman. He's made mistakes but what chairman hasn't? So Harry didn't want a DOF system? Levy scrapped it. No harm done.

I think the best chairman in the league at the moment is Gibson. You think Boro fans are happy he's stuck with Southgate? Every chairman gets shit whatever he does. Lerner got shit because he didn't provide enough funds in January.

Levy's put his money where his mouth is. That, to me, is the most important thing. We all know you can't keep unhappy players at the club unless you're Utd. He made mistakes with regards to the timing of sales etc, but he's done fine overall in my opinion.

 

[Bobishism]

randy lerner done quite well.

 

[Roberts84]

Yes Levy is to blame for selling our golden gooses. He could have said a flat 100% no to Berbs and keane leaving in the first place.

But Jol has had his golden gooses sold at HSV. I think the prblem with Levy is he has not trusted his managers, he would rather listen to the director of football rather than Jol. The ironic thing is now he will have to listen to the manager as the DoF structure has gone but he probaly has the worst out of the bunch.