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Is playing for the shirt really enough?

DanNolan

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Though there was an air of inevitability before the tournament regarding the failure of England to end their quarter-final hoodoo, it is worth analysing just how much of a success the tournament was. Can the fact that England reached a quarter-final as group winners and never lost a match before penalties be taken at face value? Or should we delve deeper into the performances and philosophy that resulted in such a result, or lack of result, depending on your expectations of the nation.

It is important first and foremost to acknowledge the lack of preparation time that was allowed for the new manager before this tournament; there is little doubt that basing Roy Hodgson’s potential as a successful England manager purely on this tournament would therefore be absurd. In addition, the fact that Hodgson matched the best performance of any England manager since 1996 must encourage a positive outlook on what is to come in his reign. Hodgson’s major success seems to be his achievement in regaining some pride in the players, to play for the shirt. A major problem that had been identified with the previous managerial regime was the lack of effort and interest when wearing the three lions, a trait heavily linked with the lack of an English-born manager. If nothing else was gained during this tournament there can be absolutely no doubt that the players gave their all for the cause in terms of effort, and a welcome change it most certainly was.It must be noted that the employment of Gary Neville seems to have had a major impact in this respect and he maybe in this respect deserves as much credit as Hodgson.

When identifying positives, the defensive players in addition to the two central midfielders demand huge acclaim for their performance. England, defensively were as good as anything in the tournament. Bar 15 minutes of madness in the game against Sweden, England conceded just a single goal, and that was one of individual brilliance from Samir Nasri. England under Hodgson are incredibly difficult to beat or even to break down and score against. It is of little doubt though, that where they have gained in defensive stability from Hodgson’s tactics, they have ultimately become a team of little attacking threat and flair.

England have adopted a new way of playing in which they set up in a rigid 442 formation, one that Hodgson has adopted throughout his managerial career with mixed results. This formation breeds solid foundations in which the central midfielders have much defensive responsiblity together with the wide midfielders, who are asked to stay narrow and protect their full backs throughout. Where this formation encourages counter attacking football in the domestic game, as has been displayed by many of the premier league teams of the last 10 years, it struggles to cope with the lack of tempo found at international level.

Under Fabio Capello at the 2010 World cup, England set up with a 442 formation and struggled to keep the ball for long periods. The tournament itself is remembered as one of total failure following a dramatic 4-1 reverse to Germany, who themselves produced a clinic of counter attacking football. The England team returned disgraced and it took a long time for the nation’s pride in the team to return. Following the tournament itself, Capello bemoaned the ability of English players to retain the ball in major tournament football, and as a result vowed to learn from his failings. His response was to change the shape of the team to a 4231, or 433 formation of many interpretations. He like many experts of international football came to the conclusion that in the modern game you cannot win a game if you do not have the ball for such long periods. Extra bodies in the centre of midfield are a must in order to gain control in the centre of the park and it’s importance has been illustrated by its use by the World and European champions Spain, who even resorted to fielding up to 6 midfielders at once during this tournament.

England endured a successful qualifying campaign under Capello and began to adjust to the modern continental formation that serves all of the top European nations so well, creating a confidence that this tournament would be an improvement. After beating Spain in his last game, albeit a friendly, Capello resigned for unrelated reasons. The worry following this tournament must be that even though England managed to show much improved passion and defensive play, the problems of past tournaments persist. It can be argued that all of the good work that Capello had achieved since his major failings of the World Cup 2010, in changing England’s philosophy into a proven formation at this level in which they try to keep possession of the ball, has been undone. This leaves them in precisely the same position, analysing the same failings that they were two years ago albeit with more pride in the effort given by the players.

While Hodgson argues that statistics aren’t important, they do make for pretty grim reading. The fact that England enjoyed less than 40% possession on average throughout the tournament (in games that include Sweden and Ukraine, both massively inferior to England in the World rankings) shows the fact that England couldn’t retain possession. It isn’t as if England effectively played on the counter attack either, illustrated by the lack of chances that were created by england (just 2.8 shots on target per game on average). His use of this formation in which England let the opposition have the ball in areas of the pitch not deemed a danger to them defensively, though impressive in terms of goals conceded, created a situation in which an already depleted England midfield was out on their feet in tiredness by the third game of the group.

In addition to this, the formation adopted eradicated much of the attacking threat offered by the England wingers, and undoubtably had a huge bearing on below par performances by Ashley Young in particular. He was stifled by his defensive responsibility leading to him not possessing the fitness or field position to hurt the opposition in the areas of the pitch in which he is most effective. It is of no coincidence that the one time in the competition that a winger, namely Theo Walcott, had a good game was in the only game in which England went behind and as a result had to free their wingers from their defensive shackles. Interestingly this game proved the only one in which England enjoyed more possession than their rivals (52%), and is generally thought to be their best performance of the tournament. This adds much credit to the opinion that a strong attack is a successful means of defence rather than letting the opposition dominate the ball for long periods trying to nick the odd goal on the break. You simply cannot allow international teams to keep the ball for such long periods. Unlike in the Premier League, international teams slow the game down to their own pace and don’t leave as much space to exploit on the counter attack, therefore making it very difficult for such a formation to work; especially against the more accomplished teams with good passers of the ball who don’t make many mistakes to exploit.

It is feasible that Hodgson will learn from those same misgivings that Capello did, and that England will go on to adopt a new formation with fresh young players and refreshing impetus in the future. It is also understandable that after coming into the job with such short notice, he had little choice but to go with “what he knew”. It is however extremely difficult not to feel that during this tournament from a footballing point of view England have gone backwards 2 years and need much work in order to ever sit at internationals top table at major tournaments.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Interesting read. I agree with everything you are saying. I think England tried to take the approach that they would make themselves hard to beat which is something Hodgson has done with many teams he has managed. Given the short amount of time he had before the tournament, he went with a lot of safe picks that he knew could do what he asked of them and work hard for the team. Whilst it is disappointing that England didn't use this tournament as a stepping stone for the World Cup, which is what I'd like to have seen happen, it is understandable that Hodgson didn't want to take that approach because if it had backfired he would have been fighting a losing battle before he had even begun as the England boss.

I think leading into the next World Cup there will have to be some changes made. I'm not sure whether some of the players picked will be able to maintain a high enough standard to be built around for the World Cup. Gerrard, Lampard (who would have been there) and Terry have all shown some decline in their standards over the last year and 2014 is going to be a big ask for them. Parker also, whilst not declining in quality at the moment isn't likely to be able to do what he does at a high enough standard in 2 years to be at a level that would see England competing for the World Cup.

I do think Hodgson will start to experiment a little more now especially as it isn't a win or done situation like in a major tournament. England have come through relatively unscathed other than the criticisms of the style of play. He now has the opportunity to bring in some fresher talent and develop a playing style that utilises his defensive approach but allows England to be a little more creative and potent.

One of the key reasons that Hodgson was appointed was that he was a strong supporter of the new England academy and developing better young prospects, so I can certainly see him breaking away from the tried and trusted formula he used with the limited time he was given and blooding in some new players.
 

Kendall

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Who do you see coming through that really has the quality and technique required for anything akin to a successful 2014 and beyond IOMLS?

I'm struggling bar Wilshere. Walker is really good, but lacks intelligence in the final third. Oxlade-Chamberlain looks OK in terms of tricks and pace, but doesn't look switched on when you compare him to say, the Spanish or Germans.

Less and less English players are making the breakthrough and those that do are bit part and not exactly setting the World alight (Livermore, Spearing etc).

If people think these are troubling times for England, I dread to think what team we'll be taking to Euro 2016 and beyond. Something drastic needs to happen a la grass roots Rugby and grass roots Cricket, the latter of which is really reaping the rewards at the moment.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Yeh I don't know either but players like Oxlade-Chamberlain should hopefully develop quite a lot over the next 2 years. He'll probably be a completely different player by then (not necessarily better, Walcott didn't exactly improve). Welbeck had some decent moments too and could develop with another 2 years under Ferguson into a pretty decent striker.

Out of the current well-seasoned players I only see Ashley Cole being still at the level required and obviously Rooney and Hart.

For the rest Hodgson could try to integrate Walker, Smalling, Jones, Caulker, Gibbs? Wilshere, Powell (see how he does with United but he is supposed to be special and Ferguson raved about him), Chamberlain, Barkley? Sturridge?

At least in defence there are reasonable options. Midfield there are a few promising youngsters who we'd have to see how they develop over the next year or so. Strikers...not so much but hopefully Rooney could play every game. I doubt all of them will be in 2014 squad but I'd expect to see quite a few of them mixed in with the players that are in the current squad and replacing the likes of Downing, Defoe, Jagielka etc. who are very unlikely to make any impact at all in the future England sides.
 

DogsOfWar

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Who do you see coming through that really has the quality and technique required for anything akin to a successful 2014 and beyond IOMLS?

I'm struggling bar Wilshere. Walker is really good, but lacks intelligence in the final third. Oxlade-Chamberlain looks OK in terms of tricks and pace, but doesn't look switched on when you compare him to say, the Spanish or Germans.

Less and less English players are making the breakthrough and those that do are bit part and not exactly setting the World alight (Livermore, Spearing etc).

If people think these are troubling times for England, I dread to think what team we'll be taking to Euro 2016 and beyond. Something drastic needs to happen a la grass roots Rugby and grass roots Cricket, the latter of which is really reaping the rewards at the moment.

Bizarrely enough I'm probably the only one in this country who disagrees with this.

My yardstick is Wenger. He's never bought an English midfielder or forward since the dark days of Franny Jeffers.
But now he has Walcott, Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gibbs, as well as Frimpong (who has been primarily raised in this country) so the benefits of the academy systems must be starting to show.

I think the main issue is the lack of players between 23 and 30 as this is the age group who we would normally rely on coming through. We currently have Rooney, Young, G Johnson, and Milner and not a lot else.
But when you look at the players who are under 23* it's a different story:
Richards, Johnson, Smalling, Jones, Wellbeck, Cleverley, the Arsenal 5, Walker, Caulker, Sturridge, Caroll, Henderson, Rodwell etc so we can put together a full Premiership squad from our top 7 sides.

Yes, I agree with your argument that there is a lack of 'regulars' in that squad but then I feel that is more to do with age than necessarily ability but by the time we get to 2016 this shouldn't be an issue.

* I may be a year or so out with the under 23 claims but I'm not pedantic enough to Google them all.
 

Kendall

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Carroll and Henderson in particular are up there with what is wrong with the England mentality. And of the players you mentioned, are they really of a calibre that can challenge the German or Spanish teams? Only Cleverley and Wilshere IMO are showing the signs of being able to use the ball like those teams do.

Oxlade-C and Walcott are IMO top class examples of players the English love (because they're well fast and have some tricks innit) but ultimately do not really have the intelligence required. They would not get near a Spanish or German team with their attributes.
 

nightgoat

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SSN had a bit on England's formation the other day and amongst others had an interview with Glenn Hoddle who obviously mentioned how he set England up playing 3-5-2. '98 was the last time I can remember we played good football at a tournament and bar a few mitigating circumstances (red card, disallowed goal, penalties) we should have gone further.

But I was thinking 3-5-2 could suit the players we have pretty well whilst allowing us to play an extra midfielder. We're not short on capable centre backs and if Rio can come back and play the technical, ball-playing centre back, I wouldn't be disappointed if Cahill replaced Terry, Lescott was decent this tournament. Richards and Jones would both be good options there, too. There probably isn't anyone better at both defending and attacking as a left back than Ashley Cole, and both Walker and Johnson attack as much as defend. As much as he's a thoroughly unlikable little shit, Wilshere would be fairly integral to keeping possession.
 
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