Jack Clarke - QPR

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Didn't make the bench yesterday either. Like Kaz says above, I guess he'll be on his way to us in January
 

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You have to assume there was an assurance of first team football that to now has not been met because there's no way we would have signed him just to make him spend a season in the Leeds reserves when he could have been integrated slowly with us (and probably would have started tomorrow).
 

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You have to assume there was an assurance of first team football that to now has not been met because there's no way we would have signed him just to make him spend a season in the Leeds reserves when he could have been integrated slowly with us (and probably would have started tomorrow).
Well, supposedly Poch didn't want him anyway.
 

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He’s no future here under Poch unless he changes his game, he’s an out and out winger, Poch has no use for them
Whatever reason it was Poch didn't want him, there's no point having him here this season. A loan to another club however, for Clarke's own sake.
 

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He’s no future here under Poch unless he changes his game, he’s an out and out winger, Poch has no use for them
In the games in which he impressed me he was far from a pure winger. V Derby he was swapping flanks, passing long and short with either foot, cutting in and shooting, crossing from all angles, using his head. I’d not play him as a number 10 anytime soon, but he’s very much the modern wideman and I’ve been rather baffled onlooking as this rhetoric around him being ‘just a winger’ has fathered pace. He may be primarily a winger but that is true of basically every single great inside forward of the past 15 years at Clarke’s age bar Messi. Ronaldo, Bale, Robben, Sterling now, even owe own Son. To say that at 18, an athletic, gifted, fast player is never going to make it with Pochettino (or any manager for that matter) is as daft as people saying with certainty that Kane would never make it in the premier league as recently as 6 seasons ago.
 

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In the games in which he impressed me he was far from a pure winger. V Derby he was swapping flanks, passing long and short with either foot, cutting in and shooting, crossing from all angles, using his head. I’d not play him as a number 10 anytime soon, but he’s very much the modern wideman and I’ve been rather baffled onlooking as this rhetoric around him being ‘just a winger’ has fathered pace. He may be primarily a winger but that is true of basically every single great inside forward of the past 15 years at Clarke’s age bar Messi. Ronaldo, Bale, Robben, Sterling now, even owe own Son. To say that at 18, an athletic, gifted, fast player is never going to make it with Pochettino (or any manager for that matter) is as daft as people saying with certainty that Kane would never make it in the premier league as recently as 6 seasons ago.
I appreciate you really rate Jack Clarke but is he really that quick? One of my big concerns with him is he always seems a bit one paced, doesn't seem to have that real explosive bit of acceleration or speed that you see from the likes of Sterling, Messi, Ronaldo, Bale, Robben etc that you mentioned.

Genuine question not a dig, as I know you have watched much more of him than most here.
 

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I appreciate you really rate Jack Clarke but is he really that quick? One of my big concerns with him is he always seems a bit one paced, doesn't seem to have that real explosive bit of acceleration or speed that you see from the likes of Sterling, Messi, Ronaldo, Bale, Robben etc that you mentioned.

Genuine question not a dig, as I know you have watched much more of him than most here.
He’s one of those players for whom the nonsensical phrase ‘deceptive pace’ will be used because rather than being built/ running like Maurice Green, he’s languid, much like Bale at that age. Whether he piles on the muscle like Bale did to become explosive, or he stays lithe more like an Anelka or a Kanoute is another matter, but I assure you, ball at his feet (which is what matters) the boy is quick.

Far more important to me though is his brain and technique. The boy has verve.
 

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He’s one of those players for whom the nonsensical phrase ‘deceptive pace’ will be used because rather than being built/ running like Maurice Green, he’s languid, much like Bale at that age. Whether he piles on the muscle like Bale did to become explosive, or he stays lithe more like an Anelka or a Kanoute is another matter, but I assure you, ball at his feet (which is what matters) the boy is quick.

Far more important to me though is his brain and technique. The boy has verve.
Let's hope he develops as you believe he can!

Would be good to see us field a proper 433 in the future, with Clarke as a wing forward.
 

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In the games in which he impressed me he was far from a pure winger. V Derby he was swapping flanks, passing long and short with either foot, cutting in and shooting, crossing from all angles, using his head. I’d not play him as a number 10 anytime soon, but he’s very much the modern wideman and I’ve been rather baffled onlooking as this rhetoric around him being ‘just a winger’ has fathered pace. He may be primarily a winger but that is true of basically every single great inside forward of the past 15 years at Clarke’s age bar Messi. Ronaldo, Bale, Robben, Sterling now, even owe own Son. To say that at 18, an athletic, gifted, fast player is never going to make it with Pochettino (or any manager for that matter) is as daft as people saying with certainty that Kane would never make it in the premier league as recently as 6 seasons ago.
I did say unless he changes his game, I didn’t say he couldn’t
 

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Two apps in the EFL cup, that's all so far. Really need to get him to a team where he can feature regularly (even if it's just being subbed on)...
 

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We need to recall him now and find him a new loan.

We are wasting an entire year of his development at the moment which could be the difference between him becoming a top player or average one. These are key years in his development.
 

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The other day Leeds were chasing the game at 1-0 down and he didn’t come on, and Leeds only made two subs by the end. I’m inclined to think it’s political at this stage. Reckon Fulham would be a great place for him.
 
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