Jay Rodriguez

[DaSpurs]

One of the worst injuries you can ever had. Essien, Cole to name just two were never the same after ACL injuries!

There are relative degrees to it however, and if he's back to the point in the video then I'm relieved to note that his does not seem particularly bad.

 

[Yid1987]

There are relative degrees to it however, and if he's back to the point in the video then I'm relieved to note that his does not seem particularly bad.

Agree but it was stated at the time that it was ruptured. A rupture is usually a grade 3 which is the most serious! Usually grade 1 and 2 are referred to as a tear not rupture.

 

[DaSpurs]

Agree but it was stated at the time that it was ruptured. A rupture is usually a grade 3 which is the most serious! Usually grade 1 and 2 are referred to as a tear not rupture.

Ah indeed, I didn't ever see the grade. That is indeed concerning.

 

[scat1620]

Hoping that Pochettino will see Lamela as a better option for the 'not-quite-a-striker, not-quite-a-winger' position that Rodriguez has been used in for Southampton.

 

[loaderspurs]

Agree but it was stated at the time that it was ruptured. A rupture is usually a grade 3 which is the most serious! Usually grade 1 and 2 are referred to as a tear not rupture.

Yes a rupture is bad in terms of time, but usually the indicator for future weaknesses/likeness of recurrence comes down to damage to the meniscus. Jay only ruptured the ligament, no meniscus injury so his chances of a full return to fitness sooner are much much better than some make out.

 

[DaSpurs]

Hoping that Pochettino will see Lamela as a better option for the 'not-quite-a-striker, not-quite-a-winger' position that Rodriguez has been used in for Southampton.

Agreed. Such a player doesn't necessarily have to move in from the left, in fact it'd even be advantageous for such a player to move in from the right considering Eriksen prefers to receive at and work from the ball slightly to the left even when playing centrally.

 

[DaSpurs]

Yes a rupture is bad in terms of time, but usually the indicator for future weaknesses/likeness of recurrence comes down to damage to the meniscus. Jay only ruptured the ligament, no meniscus injury so his chances of a full return to fitness sooner are much much better than some make out.

That's not entirely true. While tearing the meniscus significantly worsens the injury, full ruptures of the tendon alone do tend to reoccur more often than tears.

 

[Drexl]

£5m and not a penny more, Sandro is still not back to the player he was after over a year and he doesn't rely on pace like Rodriguez does

 

[DaSpurs]

£5m and not a penny more, Sandro is still not back to the player he was after over a year and he doesn't rely on pace like Rodriguez does

I think he'd still be worth more than that, but I agree with you that we shouldn't pay if they ask for more than that. We should get a better option at LW anyway, and look for young striker talent elsewhere.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

If we really are interested then I think its one to come back to in January.

 

[jonnyp]

Not good enough, no thanks.

 

[TheAmerican]

Agree but it was stated at the time that it was ruptured. A rupture is usually a grade 3 which is the most serious! Usually grade 1 and 2 are referred to as a tear not rupture.

I ruptured my ACL, severely tore my meniscus, and partially tore my mcl recently. I'm 3 months out of surgery and I have just received clearance for non-contact sports. I was on crutches for 8 weeks. A straight ACL would have you on crutches for a few days (I was in rehab with a few individuals with such). The recovery is pretty quick, and there aren't the same stability issues that there are with meniscus injuries. The biggest concerns are losing flexion and extension, and that is why he has that torture looking device on his leg, as it helps straighten it. Apart from that, it is all about redeveloping control of your quad and rebuilding strength in it.

You can recover pretty fast from an ACL injury. I would imagine that he will have all the best treatment options available to him. A good example of how fast a professional can get back from an ACL tear is Falcao. He is possibly going to play in the world cup. I'd be very surprised if Rodriguez isn't fully fit come the beginning of the season.

 

[Redfap]

I've torny my ACL and it is a very serious injury. I've just started returning and playing sport (Aussie Rules football not association football). It isn't a career death sentence and he should be able to recover and be a fine striker but it is definite risk for a transfer and one that we wont take until he is at least recovered. Losing speed, agility and leaping ability are all realistic expectations. Additionally there is an increased risk of re injury. The surgery and strength of the replacement ligament has improved significantly in the last 20 years but it still a very serious and I doubt any club would take a chance until he has recovered and is performing well.

Just my 2c

 

[coyspurs18]

I think at the end of the day it's about the body's ability to heal. The recovery is much faster now than when I was playing. I coach high school girls and have seen 4 ACL tears (ACL & Meniscus) in the past 2 years. The 4 girls used different methods 2 chose patellar and 2 hamstring. 1 of both the patellar and hamstring were back in 5 months at full participation, they only lacked the burst of speed they once had (this came about a month later). The remaining player that had patellar surgery took 6 months for full participation and the final girl took closer to 8 months and continued to have set backs. It appeared that the choice for surgery (hamstring vs patellar) had little bearing on the recovery, it was more to do with their body's ability to recover. One would think that a professional athlete would be on the faster recovery side of things but you never know. Sorry to bore you all...

 

[DaSpurs]

I think at the end of the day it's about the body's ability to heal. The recovery is much faster now than when I was playing. I coach high school girls and have seen 4 ACL tears (ACL & Meniscus) in the past 2 years. The 4 girls used different methods 2 chose patellar and 2 hamstring. 1 of both the patellar and hamstring were back in 5 months at full participation, they only lacked the burst of speed they once had (this came about a month later). The remaining player that had patellar surgery took 6 months for full participation and the final girl took closer to 8 months and continued to have set backs. It appeared that the choice for surgery (hamstring vs patellar) had little bearing on the recovery, it was more to do with their body's ability to recover. One would think that a professional athlete would be on the faster recovery side of things but you never know. Sorry to bore you all...

As a med student and sports fan, I enjoyed this quite a bit actually. And it's very true, genetics are very prevalent in the recovery process. Professional athletes unfortunately are not predisposed to quicker recovery, as they can often be seemingly even worse (see G Rossi). It's unfortunate that it doesn't work out that way, given their careers are so dependent on their health.

 

[jerseyspur]

That's not entirely true. While tearing the meniscus significantly worsens the injury, full ruptures of the tendon alone do tend to reoccur more often than tears.

Torn/rupture in terms of an ACL in professional athlete makes little difference as ultimately the treatment is an arthroscopic reconstruction in which they use an autograft (i.e. coming from your own body) to replace the damaged ligaments. Generally they take the autografts from one of your hamstrings, hence why players who's game is based around pace (i.e Michael Owen) never get back to the pace they were at before and are prone to recurrent hamstring injuries.

In younger athletes, occasionally they can avulse a piece of the tibia off, but the tendon remains intact...the recovery from these is much quicker as the surgery to repair is much simpler (i.e. just pinning the tibial spine back to the bone) but these are extremely rare beyond puberty...

Essentially, severity and recovery from ACL injuries is determined by the other associated injuries, namely collateral ligament damage & meniscal injury. Worse case scenario is you do all 3, aptly named 'The Terrible Triad' which i have a sneaky suspicion Sandro did judging by the amount of time he was out for. Compare that to Falcao who did his ACL earlier this year, yet still maybe fit for the WC...

 

[8Gazza]

To those saying he is not good enough, he scored 15 goals in 33 PL-appearances last season, more than any of our players.

 

[PMS]

I want Rodriguez at Spurs. More so than any other Southampton player.

 

[Lufti]

Edit:

Wow, definitely take with a pinch of salt. I'm a big Rodriguez fan, but I have to laugh at this from whoscored.com

+ Strengths
(Player has no significant strengths)

- Weaknesses
Holding on to the ball - Weak
Crossing - Weak
Passing - Weak
Finishing - Weak
Offside awareness - Weak

Jay Rodriguez's Style of Play

• Likes to cut inside
• Likes to play short passes

Don't see how they can put his finishing as weak after 15 goals in 33 games..

 

[CrouchPotato]

Take with a pinch of salt etc but his strengths and weaknesses on whoscored.com

Strengths:

Key passes - Very Strong
Passing - Strong
Through balls - Strong
Finishing - Strong
Crossing - Strong
Holding on to the ball - Strong
Long shots - Strong
Direct free kicks - Strong
Taking set-pieces - Strong

Weaknesses:

Aerial Duels - Weak

James Rodríguez's Style of Play

• Likes to play long balls
• Gets fouled often
• Plays the ball off the ground often
• Likes to do layoffs
• Likes to dribble
• Likes to cut inside
• Does not dive into tackles

wrong rodriguez