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Japhet

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I think he’ll be sold (or loaned out) because quite rightly he wants to play games. I don’t think he wants to be a back up option any more from the sounds that are coming out around him.

He said that he wants to stay and fight for his place which to me says that he doesn't expect anything on a plate and wants to earn his chance. The question is, will Mourinho give him that chance?
 

soflapaul

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People do realise Foyth is Argentina's first choice right back, you don't get to play there without some physicality and ability. In my humble opinion it's only injuries that have held him back and he has a better footballing brain than Aurier

I believe his upside is quite high and hope we keep him but would also suggest that his brain has held him back also. It seems he doesn't always appreciate/respect the speed at which other players play. That leads to overestimating his ability to tackle a player (especially near/in the box) or take a player when he is with the ball 1 v 1 with minimal defensive cover behind him. That makes him susceptible to quick, thinking forwards who press. Again, i want to keep the guy and think he could be a long term answer, but he has to get that part of his game right and if he does, we have at the least, a solid player who can play multiple positions depending on the situation. At the most, something special.
 

wrd

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People do realise Foyth is Argentina's first choice right back, you don't get to play there without some physicality and ability. In my humble opinion it's only injuries that have held him back and he has a better footballing brain than Aurier

He got injured at the worst possible moment in pre-season. I wish we could have seen how it would have gone with him at RB.
 

TEESSIDE1

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People do realise Foyth is Argentina's first choice right back, you don't get to play there without some physicality and ability. In my humble opinion it's only injuries that have held him back and he has a better footballing brain than Aurier

Argentina have some of the best attacking players in the world but as a team they’re hopeless.

Albeit different ages, Foyth and Aurier are very similar in that they’re both clearly talented but unless they can quickly get over their frequent brain farts then they’ve no place at a top 6 club.

We have to draw a line somewhere... you’re not going to win anything or push the league leaders if you keep playing players whom are going to make fatal mistakes week in week out. Look at City - signed Stones for stupid money but 5 years later he’s still making stupid mistakes... it’s ingrained in him.
 

ilikeost

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People do realise Foyth is Argentina's first choice right back, you don't get to play there without some physicality and ability. In my humble opinion it's only injuries that have held him back and he has a better footballing brain than Aurier
Argentina are not famous for their solid defense. I can't name a single decent Argentinian RB. No one doubts that he has some physicality and ability and my dead grandmother has a greater footballing brain than Aurier. The question is if he is good enough to be a right back for a top 4 club. I've not seen anything to suggest he is. He is a CB forced to fill in at RB. Selling Foyth and Aurier and getting a real RB makes the most sense to me.
 

AllReb

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It is. I guess we'll never know how it would have turned out.

I think the reason Jose hasn't flipped the full backs is down to not having a RB who can be like Davies. I think Foyth is too young to be trusted with that role. He often gets a rush of blood, like some young players do.

He does but still better than Aurier
 

Japhet

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I believe his upside is quite high and hope we keep him but would also suggest that his brain has held him back also. It seems he doesn't always appreciate/respect the speed at which other players play. That leads to overestimating his ability to tackle a player (especially near/in the box) or take a player when he is with the ball 1 v 1 with minimal defensive cover behind him. That makes him susceptible to quick, thinking forwards who press. Again, i want to keep the guy and think he could be a long term answer, but he has to get that part of his game right and if he does, we have at the least, a solid player who can play multiple positions depending on the situation. At the most, something special.

He'd had very little experience when we signed him and hasn't had that many chances with us either. That's an incredibly steep learning curve for a young player to go from relative obscurity to the EPL and International football. I think under the circumstances he's done pretty well and it would be a big mistake to sell him. A decent loan could be the making of him though.
 

soflapaul

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He'd had very little experience when we signed him and hasn't had that many chances with us either. That's an incredibly steep learning curve for a young player to go from relative obscurity to the EPL and International football. I think under the circumstances he's done pretty well and it would be a big mistake to sell him. A decent loan could be the making of him though.

in full agreement. he plays too arrogantly for that little experience but a good loan spell and i think he could come good.
 

LDNYid

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People do realise Foyth is Argentina's first choice right back, you don't get to play there without some physicality and ability. In my humble opinion it's only injuries that have held him back and he has a better footballing brain than Aurier
I concur. I really wouldn’t mind him and another, say zeki celik, fighting it out for the right back berth.
 

mr ashley

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Don’t agree with this.
Kim mingy is a significant gamble because he has absolutely no experience in a European league. Foyth has some, within which he has shown promise, and some rash mistakes.
Likewise, Ccv has only had experience in the Championship.
Its just as likely to expect similar errors from both ccv and Kim as they get to grips with the PL, and equally does Foyth a disservice by refusing to acknowledge his(anyone’s) ability to learn from these mistakes.
Of course, we haven’t seen it yet because he’s been injured/out of favour

Totally agree that he needs a PL season loan- like Walker /Rose did, making their mistakes on someone else’s goal difference. Hopefully he’ll get it at Leeds, replacing Ben White
@RikkiRocket revenge spam? Classy....
 

Goobers

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As someone that has watched Stones and never really rated him I would hate to see Foyth sold whom I believe has a far higher ceiling.
 

Deathrod

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Argentina are not famous for their solid defense. I can't name a single decent Argentinian RB. No one doubts that he has some physicality and ability and my dead grandmother has a greater footballing brain than Aurier. The question is if he is good enough to be a right back for a top 4 club. I've not seen anything to suggest he is. He is a CB forced to fill in at RB. Selling Foyth and Aurier and getting a real RB makes the most sense to me.

Pochettino was pretty good..
 

Hotspur33

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Sell with a buy back clause.
Hear this suggested a lot. Nearly never happens, why would any team agree to sign a player under the conditions that if he is a success, he can be bought back for what is likely to be below market value.
 

emiley heskey

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Hear this suggested a lot. Nearly never happens, why would any team agree to sign a player under the conditions that if he is a success, he can be bought back for what is likely to be below market value.

Chelsea, barca, real always do it
 

phieffect

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Argentina are not famous for their solid defense. I can't name a single decent Argentinian RB. No one doubts that he has some physicality and ability and my dead grandmother has a greater footballing brain than Aurier. The question is if he is good enough to be a right back for a top 4 club. I've not seen anything to suggest he is. He is a CB forced to fill in at RB. Selling Foyth and Aurier and getting a real RB makes the most sense to me.

Javier Zanetti?
 

daveduvet

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I’d like him to ply his trade with us. His limited chances often mean he’s trying his best, which ultimately leads to errors. Given a handful of games his confidence will increase. Think he’s a classy player ..
 
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