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NickHSpurs

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Mar 14, 2004
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The only thing that would entice me to go back at limited capacity is if the club sorted out parking near the stadium as I have absolutely no interest in using public transport and live over an hour away.

The government is definitely taking the piss in allowing INDOOR theatres to open at half capacity but not outdoor stadiums where it's supposidely safer.
 
Jan 28, 2011
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I can see the arguments of both sides when it comes to Tottenham’s 2020-21 campaign to #LetFansIn.

Still deeply unhappy at their 2019-20 campaign to #LetFansDown though. Don’t want to see a repeat of that.
 

Danny1

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Dec 6, 2006
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As annoying and frustrating as it is.

You need to get to work, you need to go to the supermarket. Its essantial to keep your life going and therefore worth the risk of allowing it.
I know there are ltos of companies and jobs involved in Matchday football but to be honest aside from them: No one needs to go to a football match. Its mostly just your private entertainment so it is not okay to compare it.

The same could be said for shopping centres, clothes shops, pubs, restaurants, basically any indoor place that doesn't provide food or water to survive.

I personally think its ridiculous that you can have a shed load of people inside a pub to watch football, or shouting and getting smashed yet you cant have fans at an outdoor stadium with no alcohol and staying at a safe distance. Its illogical.
 

riggi

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Jun 24, 2008
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I’m only going back if it’s full capacity. Don’t see any point to do so before that.
 

Matrix

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Aug 9, 2008
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You also got to think of the logistics of it all. It’s just not sitting down in the stand evenly spaced. It’s about how many stewards per stand, the hospitality element in the ground, the surrounding area with increased numbers of people. How early do you have to go in there to get your temperature taken etc etc etc. it’s not a simple as it was before.
 

punky

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Sep 23, 2008
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The government are always being accused of being ambiguous and inconsistent.

When hospital admissions and deaths are rising if they opened up the stadiums, regardless how they did it, they'd get massive flack from all sides. It's pretty much a non-starter, at least until we see a downward trend.

It would be better for the government to stipulate the matches that aren't included in the existing TV broadcast packages, should be broadcastable by each club, with the profits going to them. The FA/Premier League seem to be unable to manage it or don't care.
 

hughy

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Nov 18, 2007
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If it goes some way to helping lower league clubs stay afloat, I'm all in.
 

BringBack_leGin

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It’s hard to form an opinion I can have faith in when the numbers and statistics provided are manipulated to suit an agenda. I see sense in both sides of the argument. I do, however, feel there’s an inconsistent approach regarding which environments are being allowed to be repopulated by thousands of people, and which aren’t.
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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The only thing that would entice me to go back at limited capacity is if the club sorted out parking near the stadium as I have absolutely no interest in using public transport and live over an hour away.

The government is definitely taking the piss in allowing INDOOR theatres to open at half capacity but not outdoor stadiums where it's supposidely safer.

Good point re theatres. Makes no sense when it’s in black and white like that.
 

ReadieSpur

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The same could be said for shopping centres, clothes shops, pubs, restaurants, basically any indoor place that doesn't provide food or water to survive.

I personally think its ridiculous that you can have a shed load of people inside a pub to watch football, or shouting and getting smashed yet you cant have fans at an outdoor stadium with no alcohol and staying at a safe distance. Its illogical.

Its to do with £££s. Pubs, restaurants and shops will shut down if they cant open and jobs will be lost etc. Football clubs will still get their money from broadcasting and will survive. I get that there is an issue with smaller clubs which will need to be addressed.
 

Danny1

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Its to do with £££s. Pubs, restaurants and shops will shut down if they cant open and jobs will be lost etc. Football clubs will still get their money from broadcasting and will survive. I get that there is an issue with smaller clubs which will need to be addressed.

A lot of football stadiums are no longer just that. Take our new ground, which has multiple franchise businesses inside for catering etc. They will potentially go out of business & as we have seen already, Premier League clubs are making cut backs in their staff. People are losing their jobs in every sector of work at the minute and the only thing I want to see is a common sense approach.

Theatres allowing people in, yet football stadiums not is just a bit illogical in my opinion. Ultimately we cant close every industry but there just needs to be a level of understanding of why some things can happen, yet others cant.
 

Wick3d

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Aug 31, 2012
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The Government will not sanction any such move. It is an obvious own goal, especially for a government whose entire policy platform is driven by PR and bullshit.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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If everyone is required to wear masks even at their seats, there is 10-15 feet distance between people, attendance is capped at like 10-15%, and proper contact tracing information is kept, I think that would be okay. But anything other than that? No.
 

FibreOpticJesus

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The same could be said for shopping centres, clothes shops, pubs, restaurants, basically any indoor place that doesn't provide food or water to survive.

I personally think its ridiculous that you can have a shed load of people inside a pub to watch football, or shouting and getting smashed yet you cant have fans at an outdoor stadium with no alcohol and staying at a safe distance. Its illogical.

But that is the point you cannot have what you describe above.

The above culture is a major cause of all the increases in the metropolitan areas. Unfortunately too many of our citizens do not act appropriately and if we had 15000 supporters at a game there would be packed pubs and cafes outside the ground with potential of away fans without tickets attending for the crack. The bars in the ground are a nightmare prior to ko and at halftime. Can you imagine how a 2m distanced queue would work. The stairs at full time would be full of fans not willing to keep their distance as they race to get home to see their loved ones. There is no parking so the majority of fans will have to queue politely for trains/underground and buses at 2m distance.

All of the above means that you have a perfect breading ground for us fans to become infected and pass on to the vulnerable and old and all those who are in our so called bubbles.

I for one will not be attending and it grieves me deeply but if we go into this half baked all we are doing is prolonging the impact of this dreadful disease.
 
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Dashy

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A lot of football stadiums are no longer just that. Take our new ground, which has multiple franchise businesses inside for catering etc. They will potentially go out of business & as we have seen already, Premier League clubs are making cut backs in their staff. People are losing their jobs in every sector of work at the minute and the only thing I want to see is a common sense approach.


Theatres allowing people in, yet football stadiums not is just a bit illogical in my opinion. Ultimately we cant close every industry but there just needs to be a level of understanding of why some things can happen, yet others cant.

Theatre's are shut. Thousands have lost their livelihood because of it.
 

Japhet

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Sense of entitlement could be a big driver behind the virtually guaranteed second wave of Covid. That second wave could absolutely dwarf what we've seen so far. I don't understand why Theatres are allowed to partially accomodate an audience - probably because it would be a much less catastrophic failure than allowing football under similar circumstances should it backfire. Either way, I think we're in for a very tough winter and the NHS will be stretched to breaking point. No point making it worse if it isn't absolutely essential.
 
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