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[topper]

Not a financial expert by any stretch of the imagination, however the 10% stake doesn’t have to be worth the price a buyer is willing to pay for it. On paper, that 10% stake is worth 270 but if Sheik Mansoor wanted 500 and Silver Lake were willing to pay that amount due to a good future ROI, then they would be paying that price.

It isn’t a sound investment on paper either, were your stake would have to double in value just for you to break even, and grow even more to make a profit.

I hope someone with a little more financial expertise can explain how this deal would make sense to us.

Looks like smoke and mirrors, an application of the dark arts, sleight of hand -, whatever you want to call it - welcome to the world of corporate accountancy

 

[McFlash]

Good question. Strange...

On a sidenote, that 31% next to our name is delicious

And yet, some fans still want ENIC out!

 

[yankspurs]

US investment group Silver Lake have just pumped £390 million into City...
Club now valued at £4.9 billion!!!

It was not invested into Manchester City. It was invested into City Football Group. Will apparently be used to expand their investment portfolio into football clubs.

 

[yankspurs]

It says they invested in City group rather than just Man City, what difference that makes?

CFG own stakes in about 3 or 4 other clubs and are apparently looking for more.

 

[spursfan77]

Why though?

Because they can’t do their “sponsorship” deals now they’ve got to find money from other sources to pay all their players I guess.

 

[yankspurs]

CFG own stakes in about 3 or 4 other clubs and are apparently looking for more.

Just to further the point that this wont effext Manchester City, a day or 2 after CFG received a cash infusion, they subsequently buy an Indian club.

 

[Hakkz]

Just to further the point that this wont effext Manchester City, a day or 2 after CFG received a cash infusion, they subsequently buy an Indian club.

Disgusting.

 

[spursfan77]

Why are they buying all these other clubs?

I’m assuming it’s for creative accounting purposes. I can’t believe their owners retain a passion for the Indian premier league!

 

[nailsy]

Why are they buying all these other clubs?

I’m assuming it’s for creative accounting purposes. I can’t believe their owners retain a passion for the Indian premier league!

It's a growth market. It's probably a good investment.

 

[spursfan77]

It's a growth market. It's probably a good investment.

They could of spent some of that money on Bury, saved them and used them as a loan club. Through a different ownership if required.

 

[Hakkz]

Why are they buying all these other clubs?

I’m assuming it’s for creative accounting purposes. I can’t believe their owners retain a passion for the Indian premier league!

They are trying to industrialize football. The City group and RB are the first with this and hopefully the last. It will make it easier for them commercially, they can sign prospects in different countries and then transfer them between clubs. Like Girona is getting a bunch of City youngsters on loan, Salzburg players to Leipzig.

They could of spent some of that money on Bury, saved them and used them as a loan club. Through a different ownership if required.

They seem to just want one club in each country. Probably so that they don't get a conflict of interest later on.

 

[nailsy]

Guardiola rules out January signings

Pep Guardiola says Manchester City will not be making any signings in January, despite trailing Liverpool by 11 points.

www.bbc.com

I'm surprised that they aren't going for a central defender as it's the obvious weakness in their squad. It looks like Pep's stubbornness is kicking in again.

 

[sebo_sek]

Can somebody who is better at finances than me explain to me how a club which was valued in May 2019 of this year at $2.7 billion suddenly get an injection of 500 million for buying a 10% stake based on a company arbitrarily valuing them at $5 billion?

https://www.forbes.com/soccer-valuations/list/

I'm uneducated on these sort of goings on but the cynic in me feels like it's dodgy that a company has just bought a 10% which has allowed them to inject the 500 when in reality the 10% was not worth that. Feels like yet again man city are making a mockery of FFP.

How are Chelsea, City, PSG debt free?
And what is operating income, seeing as we have the second largest in the top 20?

 

[spursfan77]

Guardiola rules out January signings

Pep Guardiola says Manchester City will not be making any signings in January, despite trailing Liverpool by 11 points.

www.bbc.com

I'm surprised that they aren't going for a central defender as it's the obvious weakness in their squad. It looks like Pep's stubbornness is kicking in again.

Let’s see what happens if they are 5/6 points off Liverpool after the end of December. If Laporte is no closer to being back then I suspect they will have to go for someone. Kompany back perhaps?

 

[Hakkz]

Let’s see what happens if they are 5/6 points off Liverpool after the end of December. If Laporte is no closer to being back then I suspect they will have to go for someone. Kompany back perhaps?

They need a new Kompany type. A calming leader because as soon as their defense in under pressure they look like a mess.

And they will have to pay big money for that player.

 

[nailsy]

It makes me wonder if they're thinking of making a move for Toby or Jan at the end of the season. You can bet they've already spoken to their agents if they are.

 

[Hakkz]

It makes me wonder if they're thinking of making a move for Toby or Jan at the end of the season. You can bet they've already spoken to their agents if they are.

They should aim for much better with their resources. If they want to really compete, they should be taking players from other top clubs / stealing the targets from the other top clubs.

 

[nailsy]

They should aim for much better with their resources. If they want to really compete, they should be taking players from other top clubs / stealing the targets from the other top clubs.

We are a top club. Or we were recently.

 

[Hakkz]

We are a top club. Or we were recently.

Lol yeah, but you know what I mean. They should try to weaken opposition while strengthening. It's not like they are poor.

 

[nailsy]

Lol yeah, but you know what I mean. They should try to weaken opposition while strengthening. It's not like they are poor.

I'm not sure how they could do that in the Premier League though? Liverpool wouldn't sell them anyone - except maybe Lovren . United and Arsenal haven't got anyone they'd want. Chelsea might sell them Rudiger I suppose. If they want to hurt an English team then we're probably the best target.

Obviously there are big clubs outside the Premier League but they'd all ask for huge money for their players as well.