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Lloris... And the players reactions to him

ajspurs

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Well, I really do like Lloris, I think he's a fantastic keeper and has traits that not too many top keepers have but there's no doubt that he's going through a tough time at the moment and although he's still making great saves, he's costing us at times or putting us under pressure also. His constant punching where it's not needed really does put us under unnecessary pressure on occasion and his rushing off the line at the wrong time has also.

The interesting thing though is the reaction to him from a few players, Walker in particular and I think Eriksen too. In the recent game against Saints after their second goal that Lambert scored you could see Walker attempt to block the shot is he comes sliding in and as the ball rolls past him you can see him slapping his sides in real frustration and pointing in Lloris' direction. Now it could have been for Chiriches but I think it was aimed more at Lloris.
In the 88th minute, Saints have a freekick that's sent straight into Lloris yet he decides to punch the ball clear which has Walker immediately throw his hands into the air in further frustration.
Then in the 92nd minute we're defending a corner that Lloris ends up clearing with a punch and in which this particular time it may have been hard for him to catch the ball but it falls to Lambert who volleys the ball into the ground and over but it then shows Eriksen turning and seeming to gesture for Lloris to catch it.

Now like I said Lloris is a top keeper and I love having him as our number one but I hope we're giving him a little extra attention in training because his decision making in certain situations seems to be getting to some of the players. Thoughts?
 

raf18

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I don't think it's anything serious. They all know he's a top goalkeeper. Walker and Lamela is a bit more interesting. Sometimes Walker looks like he's fuming at Lamela. Happened against Southampton and before the Sheriff game. However, after Lamela scored, Walker looked as happy as anyone for him.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Kind of an aside point but...

What's clear is that Walker is an important part of this squads make up right now. Through process of elimination as much as anything else up till now, he's kind of one of our most experienced PL players with an almost veteran like status.

I don't really mind this so much, because I don't think we have too many leaders and he is one of most feisty and spirited players. He is certainly never short on effort.
 

ajspurs

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I don't think it's anything serious. They all know he's a top goalkeeper. Walker and Lamela is a bit more interesting. Sometimes Walker looks like he's fuming at Lamela. Happened against Southampton and before the Sheriff game. However, after Lamela scored, Walker looked as happy as anyone for him.

Yea I missed that game so I didn't see that actually. Saying that as I was re-watching the game I was thinking maybe Lamela's positioning cost us the first goal as the player on their left had way much too time to find that inside pass to Lallana. I wouldn't say it's serious but if it continues I do wonder if it will become an 'issue'.

Kind of an aside point but...

What's clear is that Walker is an important part of this squads make up right now. Through process of elimination as much as anything else up till now, he's kind of one of our most experienced PL players with an almost veteran like status.

I don't really mind this so much, because I don't think we have too many leaders and he is one of most feisty and spirited players. He is certainly never short on effort.

He's actually becoming my favourite player funnily enough. Is cutting out the errors, positionally getting better I think and I love the effort and passion he shows along with it.
 

jonathanhotspur

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I was looking at the 2 goals we conceded earlier and I have to say that Southampton's first was hardly a rocket. Even though it went in the corner, it was struck from about 25 yards out and I thought Lloris might have shifted his feet a bit quicker.

For the second, he shouldn't have dashed out but I think Rose's positional play and the failure of anyone to track Lambert were just as disappointing.
 

rambu

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I saw the first one and not the other two, and I'd like to see Eriksen's reaction if I have a chance. Walker not so much, as to me he's a wear his emotion on his sleeve kind of guy. You can read everything from his face and, typically those emotions come and go as quickly so I'm not so worried that there's much residue left after the game -- plus he pretty much barks at everyone in the team anyway. Eriksen on the other hand, seems more the calculated type, so...

All in all I'm hoping it's simply a sign that they are getting to know each other better, to the point they will let it out where they don't see fit...and know there isn't much to worry about afterwards. Like usually you just don't treat your families in the most polite way kind of thing.
Hopefully.
 

Gbspurs

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Walker is quite passionate and often reacts to mistakes in this way, either his own or others. It's one of the things I like about him. Lloris is just going through a tough spell, his quality will tell ultimately though.
 

ajspurs

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To be honest it's not Walker's and whoever else's reaction to situations that's the issue it's more so the frustration being shown at something that is reoccurring.
 

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I said before we got him that he's a great shot stopper, very quick but there are issues with him and he does have the odd blunder in him.

But this is what you get with this type of keeper. Pro-active keepers will sometimes fuck up, generally though, they save you much more than what they cost you.
 

Lenten

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Kind of an aside point but...

What's clear is that Walker is an important part of this squads make up right now. Through process of elimination as much as anything else up till now, he's kind of one of our most experienced PL players with an almost veteran like status.

I don't really mind this so much, because I don't think we have too many leaders and he is one of most feisty and spirited players. He is certainly never short on effort.


I think it is good he is showing more leadership. Love his attitude and effort. He is one of our best players, along with Sandro and maybe Lloris -- best in the sense of how many other PL teams would start him.
 

Mullers

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Walker, just concentrate on your own game. You think you're Roberto Carlos, but you're not. If it wasn't for your speed, you'd be no better than Naughton.Lorro is a top class, world class keeper on his day, who has saved us many times. He's got a fair way to go before he makes as much mistakes as you have.
 

heirov

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I thought Walker's reaction was towards the linesman for not giving offside, as in the lead up to the goal, Walker was appealing for the flag to go up.. but anyhow, yeah, Hugo's not been d same since Lukaku knocked him out cold.
 

Cravenspurs

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Kind of an aside point but...

What's clear is that Walker is an important part of this squads make up right now. Through process of elimination as much as anything else up till now, he's kind of one of our most experienced PL players with an almost veteran like status.

I don't really mind this so much, because I don't think we have too many leaders and he is one of most feisty and spirited players. He is certainly never short on effort.
Sandro, Lamela, Eriksen, Verts, Lloris, and WALKER are the only untouchables I think we have.

Walker has been the best right back this year. He has stepped up so much and think he is developing into a true leader. And I completely agree with him coming across as a veteran.
 

ajspurs

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But this is what you get with this type of keeper. Pro-active keepers will sometimes fuck up, generally though, they save you much more than what they cost you.

True, there is naturally more of a risk to the game of a keeper like Lloris but as said, also more bonuses.

I thought Walker's reaction was towards the linesman for not giving offside, as in the lead up to the goal, Walker was appealing for the flag to go up.. but anyhow, yeah, Hugo's not been d same since Lukaku knocked him out cold.

Yea could have been mate.
 

Damian99

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Now like I said Lloris is a top keeper and I love having him as our number one but I hope we're giving him a little extra attention in training because his decision making in certain situations seems to be getting to some of the players. Thoughts?


All over the shop for that second goal cannot for the life of my grasp what he thought he was doing, the blame lies firmly at his door for that one. Glad we have him all the same.
 

Damian99

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For the second, he shouldn't have dashed out but I think Rose's positional play and the failure of anyone to track Lambert were just as disappointing.

True, but when you play a high line and try to hold it, you cannot then allow opposition midfield players to pick out easy through balls like we did for the second.

So easier for any half decent striker to make a run off the back of a defender, if there isn't pressure on the man in possession, you're in trouble every time.
 

double0

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I'm more than happy with Lloris far rather a proactive goalie than an oak Tree rooted to the line sort.

He will make the odd mistake but saves us much more...I can live with that.
 

Kiedis

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Lloris has saved us numerous time in his time here, and is in my opinion the closest thing we have to a world class player.

However, after the clash with Lukaku, he hasn't been himself and has made insanely many howlers. Hope he'll get back to his former self.
 

Bus-Conductor

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True, but when you play a high line and try to hold it, you cannot then allow opposition midfield players to pick out easy through balls like we did for the second.

So easier for any half decent striker to make a run off the back of a defender, if there isn't pressure on the man in possession, you're in trouble every time.

The first goal was just as bad.
 

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His decline in form pretty much echos the crisis Gomes went through before being dropped and to an extent, Robinson too, after his public hanging in the media with regard to the England debacle as he took the full brunt of responsibility for the pitch bobble.
 
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