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Man City [Now Not] Banned From UCL For 2 years

allatsea

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Unlimited resources enables such clubs to accumulate the very best players and thus stop less rich clubs from having them. Chelsea have done this with players seen as having the greatest potential. They collect them and then loan them out.
 

Monkey boy

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Unlimited resources enables such clubs to accumulate the very best players and thus stop less rich clubs from having them. Chelsea have done this with players seen as having the greatest potential. They collect them and then loan them out.

Leicester and to a certain extent as much as I hate to say it Liverpool prove that’s not quite the case though is it. If we had had a little more luck and probably a bit more ruthlessness then we could also have been added to that list. We also beat Man City in the champions league last year incase you forgot.
 

SugarRay

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Unlimited resources enables such clubs to accumulate the very best players and thus stop less rich clubs from having them. Chelsea have done this with players seen as having the greatest potential. They collect them and then loan them out.


It can all be stopped very easily. The powers that be don’t want to though

Make it so clubs cannot sign foreign players aged under 20, cannot loan out foreign players at all, can only loan out a maximum of 6 players and 3 of them have to be homegrown by the club loaning.

Player trading shouldn’t have ever been allowed to get to the stage where it’s an actual approach to balance the books and make money. Sure, it can be part of the overall process, but that process has to be ‘buy player, if he does well for us we might make good money on him in the future’ as opposed to ‘let’s buy him, keep him from rivals, loan him out to satellite club, if he does well maybe bring him back, if not good enough for us, sell him on for profit’

Money talks. No moral compass within football unfortunately. Look st the recent nonsense in Germany. Black player gets racially abused, people boo but game carries on. Billionaire white club owner gets called son of a whore, game gets stopped, teams protest and come out denouncing “hate”

The games fucked
 

BehindEnemyLines

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I would love it if EUFA brought in the 50+1 rule across Europe as a requirement to obtain license to participate in European competition. Bring the clubs back to the people.
 

Gspurs11

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If we can’t top 5, for completely selfish reasons even though their ban is just, I hope they are successful in their appeal so Yanited or whoever else misses out
 

nailsy

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As I've said before, I think that if this gets overturned or diluted too much UEFA will be subjected to endless allegations of corruption and taking bungs. I also think other clubs should threaten to pull out of competitions if they're expected to put up with City, PSG etc. cheating all of the time.

But the verdict being overturned would be nothing to do with UEFA. It's out of their hands now.
 

Trotter

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It can all be stopped very easily. The powers that be don’t want to though

Make it so clubs cannot sign foreign players aged under 20, cannot loan out foreign players at all, can only loan out a maximum of 6 players and 3 of them have to be homegrown by the club loaning.

Player trading shouldn’t have ever been allowed to get to the stage where it’s an actual approach to balance the books and make money. Sure, it can be part of the overall process, but that process has to be ‘buy player, if he does well for us we might make good money on him in the future’ as opposed to ‘let’s buy him, keep him from rivals, loan him out to satellite club, if he does well maybe bring him back, if not good enough for us, sell him on for profit’

Money talks. No moral compass within football unfortunately. Look st the recent nonsense in Germany. Black player gets racially abused, people boo but game carries on. Billionaire white club owner gets called son of a whore, game gets stopped, teams protest and come out denouncing “hate”

The games fucked
All well and good, except that upping the age to not allowing clubs to sign foreign players to under 20 would be restraint of trade and illegal, can only do it for minors.
However now we are out of Europe our government could step in down the line, but in that unlikely case that we deny freedom of movement to Europeans, that would make our clubs less competitive.
It would be illegal for UEFA or FIFA to make such a ruling and even every club in the country or world mutually agreeing, which they won’t would be also illegal for the same reasons.
 
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spursfan77

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The case is being heard this week starting today. I was hoping something might have leaked out already. I’ve got a bad feeling they’re going to get off.
 

yankspurs

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The case is being heard this week starting today. I was hoping something might have leaked out already. I’ve got a bad feeling they’re going to get off.
That will set a dangerously bad precedent. They'll probably get a year shaved off unless UEFA has them dead to rights.
 

Rocksuperstar

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That will set a dangerously bad precedent. They'll probably get a year shaved off unless UEFA has them dead to rights.

If I was a betting man I'd suggest they'll suspend the second year on strict conditions. They know that they have to respond somehow and it wouldn't shock me to find out they went with two initially knowing that Citeh would complain, giving UEFA the opportunity to be the reasonable party, willing to negotiate, which will give them weight and take it away from any further complaining from Citeh.

1 year ban, 1 year suspended I reckon.

Then they'll spring it on them and say, "from when the competition restarts", just as Citeh think they've got away with this year as their year off (y)
 

spursfan77

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I want them to serve the full ban not half. Fuck it, I’d rather they didn’t have one at all than half measures. Either punish them to the full or not.

The PL investigation to follow will obviously be pathetic.
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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Buy Nancy and sell them old or fringe players for massive fees to balance the books, whilst using their own money to fund the purchase. :ROFLMAO:

Spot on. Slowly of course, wouldn't want to draw the attention of the authorities.
 

markiespurs

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1 year ban, 1 year suspended I reckon.

This

I think that there is too much pressure from the big, old money, clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona and the Milan clubs, for UEFA not to stick to their guns and not punish city, but as usual with UEFA, they will water down the initial punishment.

1year ban with 1year suspended and probably a much bigger fine, payable in new, non sequential £20 bank notes.
 

nailsy

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I want them to serve the full ban not half. Fuck it, I’d rather they didn’t have one at all than half measures. Either punish them to the full or not.

The PL investigation to follow will obviously be pathetic.

That makes no sense. A years ban is still a huge punishment.
 

DJS

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Dec 9, 2006
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I want them to serve the full ban not half. Fuck it, I’d rather they didn’t have one at all than half measures. Either punish them to the full or not.

The PL investigation to follow will obviously be pathetic.

This.

Also can’t believe Chelsea had their transfer ban slashed (I’m pretty sure if was longer?).

Makes a mockery of it all over wise if clubs just keep bitching till it gets overturned.
 

Johnny J

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Aug 18, 2012
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I want them to serve the full ban not half. Fuck it, I’d rather they didn’t have one at all than half measures. Either punish them to the full or not.

The PL investigation to follow will obviously be pathetic.
That makes no sense. By that logic, prisoners should either serve their full term or none at all.

I agree that it would be better for the full punishment to stick, but ultimately City have more money than UEFA and so some sort of compromise will be reached.
 
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