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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

allatsea

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
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Two games a week since he joined is not the best way for him to reorganise the team and get them working and playing how he wants. Going to take many more weeks before we see a real Mourinho team.
 

luptic

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Jul 21, 2008
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3,062
Jose problems will be the same problems that Poch faced. The failings of this side is the players whom have been brought in in the last few windows of Poch's era.
The failings of this club in recent years has been the recruitment of players, that aren't cut out to play at the level we desire.
 

jonnyp

Well-Known Member
Jun 11, 2006
7,149
9,628
Our whole squad seemed to have lost pace and stamina. Is it overtraining, is it that they're jaded? Something is seriously wrong. There's no spark or joy in this team anymore.
 

Hakkz

Svensk hetsporre
Jul 6, 2012
8,196
17,270
Our whole squad seemed to have lost pace and stamina. Is it overtraining, is it that they're jaded? Something is seriously wrong. There's no spark or joy in this team anymore.

Have been thinking about it as well. If they are suffering from some form of burnout.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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I think most people agree that overall Poch did a cracking job for us.

But we can't ignore the awful league form that last the whole of 2019 and it didn't appear that he was going to turn it around.
Also - most importantly - he's gone and he isn't coming back so whether or not we wanted Mourinho or not is academic. He's here, he's not going anywhere so people can try and be positive or gripe every time we lose but where is that going to get anyone?
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
25,354
38,295
Our whole squad seemed to have lost pace and stamina. Is it overtraining, is it that they're jaded? Something is seriously wrong. There's no spark or joy in this team anymore.
Need time for Mourinho and his team to implement their changes.
 

Twizzle

The Alpha Male
May 25, 2008
4,955
4,735
Jose seems to have his mind set on who our best players are, or were. He plays near enough to the same team each week. I would like to see more rotation. Ndom, Foyth and GLC were playing well under Poch and even Sess put in a good shift but they are getting bugger all game time and we bought these guys for a reason.

Surely we see a bit of rotation against Burnley.
 

Hakkz

Svensk hetsporre
Jul 6, 2012
8,196
17,270
He's picking the same group of players that have been here for years. We're stale and need freshness and new ideas. That team last night offered none of this

His reasoning isn't necessarily wrong though. He probably thought that short term it was best to play the guys that know eachother while trying to figure out what do to differently.

Then he got the result you wrote. I'm expecting him to learn from that.
 

HailKingLevy

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Jul 23, 2010
875
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8 new players are what's needed.

GK
2 RB
2 LB
2 CB
1 CM

Hugo wasn't good enough before the injury, Gazza is an ok No.2.
SA & KWP both not good enough
BD & DR Def not good enough
TA & JV too slow
MS ED VW HW CE would happily upgeade or change all of these.

So maybe up to 10 players.

Damn big job ahead. good luck Jose/Hose
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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57,392
Our main problem is painfully obvious to me. We don't have the players to operate in a pivot midfield. For that you need a top quality DM and a playmaker, but we don't have a decent DM with the required mobility. Before the game last night I said it would be won or lost in midfield, and when I saw Winks and Sissoko in our CM I knew we were in trouble. Even without Pogba they were all over us. It's been the same since Dembele left who had the physicality and ball retention required, and Dier and Wanyama have gone to crap.

Why the fuck we're not seeing a CM3 setup just completely baffles me when we have so many players who would be much more comfortable in it. We could actually use Dier without exposing his lack of pace and athleticism for starters, and we have a wealth of players either side as well.

Our front line look shit because we can't hold onto the ball so we give them no service, and our backline look shaky because they're not getting any protection in front. Horrible to watch and has been for a very long time.
 
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spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
46,680
104,957
Jose seems to have his mind set on who our best players are, or were.
. I would like to see more rotation. Ndom, Foyth and GLC were playing well under Poch and even Sess put in a good shift but they are getting bugger all game time and we bought these guys for a reason.

Surely we see a bit of rotation against Burnley.

Maybe because the team are winning and he wanted to build continuity?
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,355
87,831
He came across well in the post match interview. His was a fair assessment; "We weren't even there".

The new manager bounce is done now, and we're back at the current state of the squad. By his own admission he hasn't really done any real work yet; Not with only 2 days between games. Now he has to get to work and start trying to sort out the solution to all this malaise. Whether that's psychological, tactical, or just finding the best set of XI... he has form for working this out.

There'll be plenty of matches like that one though, so we'll have to suck it up a bit this season.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,355
87,831
Our main problem is painfully obvious to me. We don't have the players to operate in a pivot midfield. For that you need a top quality DM and a playmaker, but we don't have a decent DM with the required mobility. Before the game last night I said it would be won or lost in midfield, and when I saw Winks and Sissoko in our CM I knew we were in trouble. Even without Pogba they were all over us. It's been the same since Dembele left who had the physicality and ball retention required, and Dier and Wanyama have got to crap.

Why the fuck we're not seeing a CM3 setup just completely baffles me when we have so many players who would be much more comfortable in it. We could actually use Dier without exposing his lack of pace and athleticism for starters, and we have a wealth of players either side as well.

Our front line look shit because we can't hold onto the ball so we give them no service, and our backline look shaky because they're not getting any protection in front. Horrible to watch and has been for a very long time.
Maybe we will soon. Lucas' evidenced his inconsistency, Sissoko betrayed his unsuitability as a pivot/destroyer, and the more he plays there, the more obvious it is that Dele isn't really an attacking midfielder/engache, but more a second striker, like Teddy or Le Tissier were.

I agree with you. I like the Italian style 4-3-3. Let Son and Dele play trequartista around Kane, and put Ndombele and Lo Celso either side of someone like Dier (or preferably a January signed replacement for Wanyama) and keep the full backs back.
 

philll

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Aug 31, 2012
9,110
31,702
I get the feeling the "lopsided back 3" was a stopgap while he tried to figure out what to do and it worked because we played 3 mostly shite teams. West Ham and Bournemouth are/were on dreadful runs and the only other point Olympiacos got in the CL group was our other fixture against them.

So José and his boys need to figure out wtf to do to get us to the transfer window because, he can tow the line as much as he likes about not needing new players, we need new players.
 

dagraham

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Sep 20, 2005
19,115
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He came across well in the post match interview. His was a fair assessment; "We weren't even there".

The new manager bounce is done now, and we're back at the current state of the squad. By his own admission he hasn't really done any real work yet; Not with only 2 days between games. Now he has to get to work and start trying to sort out the solution to all this malaise. Whether that's psychological, tactical, or just finding the best set of XI... he has form for working this out.

There'll be plenty of matches like that one though, so we'll have to suck it up a bit this season.

I wonder whether it’s dawned on him yet that the great squad that he’s admired from the outside for the last few years is now not as good as it appeared?

A lot of those players ( including some that he tried to sign) have gone backwards.
 

allatsea

Well-Known Member
Aug 31, 2012
8,866
16,055
Jose seems to have his mind set on who our best players are, or were. He plays near enough to the same team each week. I would like to see more rotation. Ndom, Foyth and GLC were playing well under Poch and even Sess put in a good shift but they are getting bugger all game time and we bought these guys for a reason.

Surely we see a bit of rotation against Burnley.
We have seen some little rotation but I would suspect Mourinho is trying to settle things down with the same team of those players he knows and believes he can trust. No doubt he is loosing confidence in one or two and we will see changes but gradually. He cannot rock the boat too much until he is able to bring in the players he believes he needs.
 
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