Jose Mourinho

[jay2040]

I'd happily take Dyche as our next manager.

I doubt he would have a greater pull for new players than Jose !

 

[lol]

Mauricio Pochettino.

I can only dream. I bet disgruntled players and levy will now understand the grass aint always greener

 

[jay2040]

I could have predicted where the spams would come from. Touched a nerve jose fans?

Not Jose fans but Spurs fans.

 

[Ionman34]

I could have predicted where the spams would come from. Touched a nerve jose fans?

Grow up FFS

 

[LeParisien]

Grim reading https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ing-under-jose-mourinho-who-has-yet-to-evolve

«Since his time at Real Madrid, it has felt as though he has distrusted players, been unable to relate to them as he did at Porto, Chelsea and Internazionale, whose players in discussing him can still seem like members of a cult. He has always sought to generate a sense of siege, but the players used to be inside the walls.

As he rails, again, about the deficiencies of his squad, you wonder whether it means anything other than that there has been no reinvention (and even the perceived need for reinvention implies the old model had failed). And yet a huge contract that runs until 2023 means the endgame could have a long time yet to run. »

 

[double0]

Once a winner always a winner. Mourinho has experience I'd give him that. Currently though we look predictable we attack solely via Aurier in our lobsided set up and if Kane doesn't score we're screwed. We still look ponderous in our build up but that too was the case during the latter days of Poch the difference being we concede possession and cover up. We have solutions within the squad in Ndombele who we've not really given the platform to make a change. I hope Mourinho gets it right however judging by his last appointments although silverware he got it all ended with a bitter taste.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Judging anyone, player or manager, for whatever team, right now, given the current circumstances, is fairly ludicrous. Kane, one of most gifted players technically, can’t find a teammate with a five yard pass, so I’m giving everyone a get out of jail free card until some kind of normalcy returns. But I’m still desperate to see some kind of pattern or style to our play that suggests that Jose knows what he wants and is working on that in training.

 

[aussiespursguy]

Once a winner always a winner. Mourinho has experience I'd give him that. Currently though we look predictable we attack solely via Aurier in our lobsided set up and if Kane doesn't score we're screwed. We still look ponderous in our build up but that too was the case during the latter days of Poch the difference being we concede possession and cover up. We have solutions within the squad in Ndombele who we've not really given the platform to make a change. I hope Mourinho gets it right however judging by his last appointments although silverware he got it all ended with a bitter taste.

But this is the problem. He was a winner. But his instance of playing through a player with limited ability is stupid!

We will never move forward playing like this. It's prehistoric.

 

[teok]

Why Tottenham are stagnating under José Mourinho, who has yet to evolve | Jonathan Wilson

It’s hard not to feel that we’ve have seen this all before and know how it plays out. The sense is that the endgame has begun at Tottenham

www.theguardian.com

The “Special One” press conference was closer to Gazza’s tears than to today. Mourinho proudly asserted he was not one from the bottle; that bottle would be vintage now.

What happened at Porto and then those first two years at Stamford Bridge have as much to do with the modern game as Arrigo Sacchi’s Milan or Brian Clough’s bolshiness had to do with early Mourinho – they were part of the background culture from which he had grown but had little direct relevance.

Mourinho is from the age of attrition. His leading contemporaries are now working in China, in international football and at Everton. The world has moved on and he has not moved with it. Which is not a particular criticism of him. Sir Alex Ferguson’s hunger and capacity to evolve were not normal and have skewed perceptions. Very few managers endure at the very top for more than a decade.

 

[ultimateloner]

I think it's fair to say Mourinho is conservative and predictable but everything else negative (e.g he can't communicate with the players etc) is pure BS.

Evidence: back before covid when we had a lot of injuries, Lucas Moura ran his socks off every game for him.

Tactically I think he likes to do what he thinks is the 'best value' thing to do; and that is reasonable. With the squad we have (2 stand-out players in Son and Kane, decent AMs, weak CMF, aging + slow backline) your best bet is to play deep (to reduce the chance of an opposition player running at or behind our backline) and focus on counter-attacks; because the easiest way to score is to get the ball to Son and Kane as often as possible.

I think this explains why we are playing more direct with more long balls under him.

This also explains why Mourinho always goes for the 'tested and proven' version and hence doesn't throw new players in (Tanganga + Nombele for example); the new players have elements in their game that puts the above structure under risk, and isn't worth the benefits they may offer. Mourinho is a professional. He wants points, he doesn't care how, whereas the average fan wants to 'try something new' if the old doesn't work, but that risks even getting a single point in the game.

Whether he is an improvement over Poch is another story; as I think him and Poch are very similar in terms of how they set us up. If two proven coaches are doing the same thing, it is likely the best thing to do.

 

[Jamturk]

Open question for all (but especially those not supporting José), but what are your views on Simeone and how his Atletico team plays?

Horrible team, I would'nt like to see that brand of football at the Lane.

 

[Grey Fox]

I think it's fair to say Mourinho is conservative and predictable but everything else negative (e.g he can't communicate with the players etc) is pure BS.

Evidence: back before covid when we had a lot of injuries, Lucas Moura ran his socks off every game for him.

Tactically I think he likes to do what he thinks is the 'best value' thing to do; and that is reasonable. With the squad we have (2 stand-out players in Son and Kane, decent AMs, weak CMF, aging + slow backline) your best bet is to play deep (to reduce the chance of an opposition player running at or behind our backline) and focus on counter-attacks; because the easiest way to score is to get the ball to Son and Kane as often as possible.

I think this explains why we are playing more direct with more long balls under him.

This also explains why Mourinho always goes for the 'tested and proven' version and hence doesn't throw new players in (Tanganga + Nombele for example); the new players have elements in their game that puts the above structure under risk, and isn't worth the benefits they may offer. Mourinho is a professional. He wants points, he doesn't care how, whereas the average fan wants to 'try something new' if the old doesn't work, but that risks even getting a single point in the game.

Whether he is an improvement over Poch is another story; as I think him and Poch are very similar in terms of how they set us up. If two proven coaches are doing the same thing, it is likely the best thing to do.

That's working then

 

[emiley heskey]

If we really sack mourinho, i would love is to go for someone like allegri or ernesto valverde rather than any upcoming so called progressive manager ... If we want to win league, we need pragmatism and i like valverde or allegri's approach towards leavuet title ...

 

[Albertbarich]

Today is huge for him

A win will get so many onside, a win with a good performance will at least shut the doubters up until next season.

So interested to see if he parks the bus, if he does the fanbase could be the most toxic its ever been.

 

[NickHSpurs]

Today is huge for him

A win will get so many onside, a win with a good performance will at least shut the doubters up until next season.

So interested to see if he parks the bus, if he does the fanbase could be the most toxic its ever been.

Yep, a win today would go a long long way. Just not convinced we've got it in us.

If we lose, the murmurs of discontent will become much much more than that.

 

[Albertbarich]

Yep, a win today would go a long long way. Just not convinced we've got it in us.

If we lose, the murmurs of discontent will become much much more than that.

Its not just about the result but also the performance.

Imagine a 0-0 draw where he parks the bus at home to them. Squad wise, finance wise and short term history wise we are far far stronger and yet they have a guy whose come in imposed his identity and they look a good side. We have gone totally the opposite way.

The old jose would do an absolute number on them today to shut everyone up, this jose through, does he have it in him? I'm not sure .

 

[DiVaio]

If we really sack mourinho, i would love is to go for someone like allegri or ernesto valverde rather than any upcoming so called progressive manager ... If we want to win league, we need pragmatism and i like valverde or allegri's approach towards leavuet title ...

If we want to win the league and need pragmatism we shouldnt sack Mourinho

 

[leelee]

Looking back over our results. Bournemouth is the only game you can feel unhappy with since the restart.

Sheffield United took points of Arsenal at home in the league, just smashed Chelsea and except for a horrendous keeper error, they would have got a draw against Liverpool.

The performances haven't been what we were used to under Poch but our defence was a sive. Every time a quality team attacked I was biting my nails! Also take into account the two dismal VAR decisions and the injuries at start of Jose's tenure too.

I don't know understand people's frustrations with Jose. He needs to change the philosophy of our club. In the near 40 years ive suppprted Spurs, we've always had a soft centre, even last season when we reached the champions league final. You don't win trophies with soft centres. Offensively we were poor at Bournemouth, the ball was moved way to slowly to break them down. That is something that can be worked on and maybe a change of personnel would help too; Lamela doesn't help a quick offensive tactic because he holds the ball too long and slows the play, Dele too.

We've had years of hurt. And all I've ever read on here is we need to bring in winners, people who know what it takes to win. We have now done that and loads of you want him out.

Arsenal's success in the late 90's early 00's was built upon a defense made famous by George (1-0) Graham. They were boring as shit. But with that strong backbone Wenger brought in some quality offensive players and they ended up with 2 doubles.

Have faith people.

 

[Goobers]

Very happy to give him a berth and time for the moment.
He needs to have two windows and a proper pre-season and the squad separately needs updating

 

[spursfast]

Very happy to give him a berth and time for the moment.
He needs to have two windows and a proper pre-season and the squad separately needs updating

nothing will happen... that's the problem