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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

Lighty64

I believe
Aug 24, 2010
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I don't think its the summer recruitment that will change things for us, it will be the full preseason. The recruitment will be important, but the most important thing is time to implement his ideas and to get the team gelling and playing attractive football again.

This defensive approach we are seeing is due to squad shortage and I highly doubt Mourinho wants to keep this style of football for next season. It's merely a means to an end.

you do know his preseason unless we buy early is going to have 5-6+ players missing?
 

cliff jones

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Aug 31, 2012
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But if you watch the full game it's really not how we're playing. Against Norwich we could and should have buried the game long before they got their equaliser. Poor finishing cost us, not waiting until the last 10 minutes.
Against Chelsea you have a point.
Against Villa, a game where so many constantly bang on about us being lucky, we could and should have had 4-6 goals but for poor finishing and we still won the game. Granted it was through a defensive error, but we'd earned that through the pressure we kept them under.
Against Wolves we were, for the most part, the better team, but they finished their chances and we didn't.

Now I'm not in any way trying to put forward that we've been the better side in most games, nor am I claiming that the Football has been anywhere near what we want or expect. But what I'm seeing is our manager trying to implement a tactical approach that has been effectively forced on him by events. Sometimes it's successful, sometimes it isn't. At this point in time it's roughly 50/50.

There is one point i do agree on, that JM needs to change, and that's constantly referring to their tiredness, the missing players etc. Whilst it may be correct, it's not what the players need to be hearing. Tell them they're tired, struggling for form, missing key players and they'll buy it.

I've said it before, the game's in the head. I'd much rather see him saying that despite the missing players, those on the pitch are Trojans who are more than good enough to win and win well. Keep repeating it regardless, get them questioning their own belief in themselves if the manager believes what he's saying. He must because he keeps saying it right? It takes away the easy excuse.

I'm just hopeful that what he's saying in the press is the opposite to what he's saying to the players in training and in the dressing room.

What he needs most is a good, hard fought win though. Burnley would be the perfect start as there's no way they'll roll over after we drubbed them earlier this season. Get into them, get a fighting win and that really ought to go a long way to rebuilding that confidence and belief that is so obviously missing right now.

fckinell, that’s spot on IMHO.

Jose was bad after the Son announcement, v Leipzig and Chelsea, but we edged Villa and Norwich, and certainly didn’t deserve to lose v Wolves. That’s in every respect bar the scorelines.

Skipp and Gedson look like they have the legs to stop us being countered on so easily.
i hope they’re the CM2 at Burnley
 

fedupyid

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Dec 2, 2004
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Mourinho is only for Mourinho. That is why I don’t like him. He is the biggest ego in every room. He will throw players under the bus and fail to nurture them. He is also very disrespectful to us the fans. I don’t care how many trophies he won, he won them basically by cheating. Financial Dopeing
 
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Mourinho is only for Mourinho. That is why I don’t like him. He is the biggest ego in every room. He will throw players under the bus and fail to nurture them. He is also very disrespectful to us the fans. I don’t care how many trophies he won, he won them basically by cheating. Financial Dopeing
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BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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Mourinho is only for Mourinho. That is why I don’t like him. He is the biggest ego in every room. He will throw players under the bus and fail to nurture them. He is also very disrespectful to us the fans. I don’t care how many trophies he won, he won them basically by cheating. Financial Dopeing
Love how he’s thrown Dier under the bus in the last few days, and bankrolled both his champions league titles, completely supporting your point.
 

RichieS

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Dec 23, 2004
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jose was always going to split the vote but surely he must be judged on at least a full season and see where we are then. I really don’t like the divide amongst us on this subject but surely we can agree on that.
The only judgement should be after his first full season. What I don't understand, and I did like poch is people's memories. Jose took over the biggest loss tea. in the prem in 2019. And a team that hadn't won away in a year. Did we really want to stay on that ship? Let's give Jose a chance. I don't understand Jose causing a divide, that is all on us.
I like the cut of your jibs (cuts of your jib? cuts of your jibs?), but there's a flaw in your plans - the need for patience.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Aug 4, 2005
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If we ignore which side of the fence you may be on regarding Mourinho, I think the only certainty is that if we lose another 2-4 games in a row Levy will sack Mourinho, regardless of whether we think it’s right or not.

We have just lost 4 games in a row for the first time in 16 years.

If that record becomes 6/7/8 losses in a row Levy will pull the trigger. He has shown he has zero clue football wise in the last few months and panics just like most other ridiculously ruthless chairman.

He has proven no manager is safe imo, let alone a manager who loses multiple games in a row.

Again this isn’t me vindicating any decision or taking a personal stance, it’s just my cold view on how our chairman will play it.
 

Ronwol196061

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Apr 9, 2018
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Mourinho is only for Mourinho. That is why I don’t like him. He is the biggest ego in every room. He will throw players under the bus and fail to nurture them. He is also very disrespectful to us the fans. I don’t care how many trophies he won, he won them basically by cheating. Financial Dopeing

While he has an ego,Im not sure how you get to he throws players under the bus. He even defended Dier going into the stands! He has spoken MOSTLY in positive terms about most of his players. That part he has got right. He still has to formulate a system for us that will work and he needs some time. You can be suspicious of Mourinho and I think a lot of us are but still we have to see what he says and what he does. Its still early I the game but sentencing him now is a bit too early I think.
As far as the fans go FFS he is always talking about how fantastic the fans are. Wjat are you reading?????? Do you watch his pressers?
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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If we ignore which side of the fence you may be on regarding Mourinho, I think the only certainty is that if we lose another 2-4 games in a row Levy will sack Mourinho, regardless of whether we think it’s right or not.

We have just lost 4 games in a row for the first time in 16 years.

If that record becomes 6/7/8 losses in a row Levy will pull the trigger. He has shown he has zero clue football wise in the last few months and panics just like most other ridiculously ruthless chairman.

He has proven no manager is safe imo, let alone a manager who loses multiple games in a row.

Again this isn’t me vindicating any decision or taking a personal stance, it’s just my cold view on how our chairman will play it.
Nah, if we were flirting with relegation you'd be right.
He'll get the summer I think, and up until Xmas before Levy will get twitchy...and imo that's probably the right approach.

Levy has absolutely zero to gain by pulling the trigger this season, and tens of millions to lose.
 
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rez9000

Any point?
Feb 8, 2007
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I like the cut of your jibs (cuts of your jib? cuts of your jibs?), but there's a flaw in your plans - the need for patience.
‘Cuts of your jib’, buddy.

And yes, patience seems a little thin on the ground right now.
 
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Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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If we ignore which side of the fence you may be on regarding Mourinho, I think the only certainty is that if we lose another 2-4 games in a row Levy will sack Mourinho, regardless of whether we think it’s right or not.

We have just lost 4 games in a row for the first time in 16 years.

If that record becomes 6/7/8 losses in a row Levy will pull the trigger. He has shown he has zero clue football wise in the last few months and panics just like most other ridiculously ruthless chairman.

He has proven no manager is safe imo, let alone a manager who loses multiple games in a row.

Again this isn’t me vindicating any decision or taking a personal stance, it’s just my cold view on how our chairman will play it.
And if he pulls off a good match vs. say ManUtd and guides us to next round in CL, do you agree we might as well support him just a tiny bit?
 

RichieS

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Dec 23, 2004
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But if you watch the full game it's really not how we're playing. Against Norwich we could and should have buried the game long before they got their equaliser. Poor finishing cost us, not waiting until the last 10 minutes.
Against Chelsea you have a point.
Against Villa, a game where so many constantly bang on about us being lucky, we could and should have had 4-6 goals but for poor finishing and we still won the game. Granted it was through a defensive error, but we'd earned that through the pressure we kept them under.
Against Wolves we were, for the most part, the better team, but they finished their chances and we didn't.

Now I'm not in any way trying to put forward that we've been the better side in most games, nor am I claiming that the Football has been anywhere near what we want or expect. But what I'm seeing is our manager trying to implement a tactical approach that has been effectively forced on him by events. Sometimes it's successful, sometimes it isn't. At this point in time it's roughly 50/50.

There is one point i do agree on, that JM needs to change, and that's constantly referring to their tiredness, the missing players etc. Whilst it may be correct, it's not what the players need to be hearing. Tell them they're tired, struggling for form, missing key players and they'll buy it.

I've said it before, the game's in the head. I'd much rather see him saying that despite the missing players, those on the pitch are Trojans who are more than good enough to win and win well. Keep repeating it regardless, get them questioning their own belief in themselves if the manager believes what he's saying. He must because he keeps saying it right? It takes away the easy excuse.

I'm just hopeful that what he's saying in the press is the opposite to what he's saying to the players in training and in the dressing room.

What he needs most is a good, hard fought win though. Burnley would be the perfect start as there's no way they'll roll over after we drubbed them earlier this season. Get into them, get a fighting win and that really ought to go a long way to rebuilding that confidence and belief that is so obviously missing right now.
Spot on. Just on the bolded bit though, people are forgetting that there's more than one way to be "the better team". If I had a penny for every time over the last decade I've seen Spurs be "the better team" and lose, I'd have enough money for a pint of Gamma Ray at the ground. Ultimately, the Norwich game being a prime example, the team that has all the possesion and plays in pretty patterns in the first two thirds of the pitch often isn't the one that actually creates the clear cut chances (we had numerous, Norwich didn't and were reliant on an error for their goal). I really think a lot of people's perception of what happened in that game has been influenced by the utter shit the commentators kept coming out with.

People have also seemingly forgotten that we were back to blowing fodder away when José first came in and had something resembling a full squad to utilise. The bizarre propensity for letting teams have a couple of late goals would have been stamped out pretty quickly I reckon.
 

VegasII

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May 14, 2008
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Spot on. Just on the bolded bit though, people are forgetting that there's more than one way to be "the better team". If I had a penny for every time over the last decade I've seen Spurs be "the better team" and lose, I'd have enough money for a pint of Gamma Ray at the ground. Ultimately, the Norwich game being a prime example, the team that has all the possesion and plays in pretty patterns in the first two thirds of the pitch often isn't the one that actually creates the clear cut chances (we had numerous, Norwich didn't and were reliant on an error for their goal). I really think a lot of people's perception of what happened in that game has been influenced by the utter shit the commentators kept coming out with.

People have also seemingly forgotten that we were back to blowing fodder away when José first came in and had something resembling a full squad to utilise. The bizarre propensity for letting teams have a couple of late goals would have been stamped out pretty quickly I reckon.

Without the injuries he could have focused his training on the defence and made ya solid as we would have had Kane/Son to get the goals. Now he has to work on the defense while finding solutions to our lack of strikers. Attacking midfield seems to be the only place we’re ok at the moment.
 

baldinyid

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Oct 21, 2005
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But if you watch the full game it's really not how we're playing. Against Norwich we could and should have buried the game long before they got their equaliser. Poor finishing cost us, not waiting until the last 10 minutes.
Against Chelsea you have a point.
Against Villa, a game where so many constantly bang on about us being lucky, we could and should have had 4-6 goals but for poor finishing and we still won the game. Granted it was through a defensive error, but we'd earned that through the pressure we kept them under.
Against Wolves we were, for the most part, the better team, but they finished their chances and we didn't.

Now I'm not in any way trying to put forward that we've been the better side in most games, nor am I claiming that the Football has been anywhere near what we want or expect. But what I'm seeing is our manager trying to implement a tactical approach that has been effectively forced on him by events. Sometimes it's successful, sometimes it isn't. At this point in time it's roughly 50/50.

There is one point i do agree on, that JM needs to change, and that's constantly referring to their tiredness, the missing players etc. Whilst it may be correct, it's not what the players need to be hearing. Tell them they're tired, struggling for form, missing key players and they'll buy it.

I've said it before, the game's in the head. I'd much rather see him saying that despite the missing players, those on the pitch are Trojans who are more than good enough to win and win well. Keep repeating it regardless, get them questioning their own belief in themselves if the manager believes what he's saying. He must because he keeps saying it right? It takes away the easy excuse.

I'm just hopeful that what he's saying in the press is the opposite to what he's saying to the players in training and in the dressing room.

What he needs most is a good, hard fought win though. Burnley would be the perfect start as there's no way they'll roll over after we drubbed them earlier this season. Get into them, get a fighting win and that really ought to go a long way to rebuilding that confidence and belief that is so obviously missing right now.
Fantastic post.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Aug 4, 2005
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And if he pulls off a good match vs. say ManUtd and guides us to next round in CL, do you agree we might as well support him just a tiny bit?

As I mentioned a couple of times in my post, I was looking at it from a cold, neutral POV on how I think Levy will react.

I would love nothing more than for us to turn it round, start playing good football and succeed. We all want Spurs to win.

Also, I want Mourinho to change and succeed massively as if he wins anything with us it would hurt Chelsea and Scum fans more than it normally would! Who wouldn’t want that!
 
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