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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

JonnySpurs

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Jun 4, 2004
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I'm sure this is a long shot but at 15m a year (for 3.5 years was it?) Does anyone think Levy might have inserted any clauses into Jose's contract around final league position?

Surely there would be a bare minimum expected of top 6 when you're paying that kind of money? Not to say that Levy will sack Mourinho even if we don't make EL but at this rate it's look unlikely and whilst he would never sack him having to pay out 45m in compensation, if there were a get out clause to sack him for a far reduced comp package due to league position then it would be interesting.

Even if we finish 10th I don't think he'll get the boot. Giving him only 6 months is Sherwood territory and says as much about Levy making bad decisions as it does of Mourinho's managerial abilities, or lack thereof.
 

Wsussexspur

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Oct 2, 2007
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Jose just isn't the right man for this job. Before he took us over I never realised how he is terrible tactically. He hasn't a clue! Guess like so many others I was blinded by the media hype around him.

Jose has had over 6 months with this squad now including three months where he stayed with coaches specially so we were told to work on tactics etc.

Tactically he seems to have come up with one plan which his same plan he has used for past 15/20 years. Sit back defend and try and nick a goal. There is absolutely no evidence that he has worked on any attacking aspects of tactics.

im not even that sure we look that much more solid defensively as people keep saying since the restart. Yes we have kept a couple of clean sheets but that was against West Ham and Bournemouth. Two of the worst teams in this division. Against Manchester United we rode our luck and probably got lucky it was the first game after the restart and we all saw what Sheffield United did to this supposedly solid defence. Even last night took good save from Lloris (who is looking more solid since the restart) to keep Bournemouth out.

God knows what he works on in training but the players are like statues in the match none of them move off the ball they look frightened to make mistakes and take risks with the ball.

What he has produced is nothing short of embarrassing. He has built a squad around Serge Aurier a supposed right back who cant be trusted to play right back! He keep picking players who are just woefully short of the level we need to be at Sissoko, Aurier, Moura.

Sissoko is a cult hero and most of us love his effort but technically he is a very limited football cant pass, cant shoot!
Aurier as mentioned above is a right back who cant play right back as he is technically awful defensively and his attitude on the pitch in a lot of games leaves a lot to be desired.
Moura: Is an impact sub showing why none of the top European clubs were after him when PSG decided to sell. When he is on a hot streak he is very good such as end of last season. But when he isn't he is just woeful. Running up blind alleys giving the ball away.

Jose since starting has gone about ostracising one of best players in Ndombele much in the same way he did exactly the same with Pogba at Man Utd, He now appears to be doing the same to Ryan Sessingong (again in very similar manner to what happened with Luke Shaw). Yes he has called youth players up to the squad but during his time but has barely given the likes of Skipp, Parrott, Cirkin, Walcott, White a chance on the pitch. It almost feels like a tick box exercise to please Levy and the media who said he doesn't give youth a chance. When that line is trotted out again he will turn around and say look at all these players I pick in my match day squad.

Reference Ndombele and Sessingong remember only last summer these were two very much sort after players.

After every horrendous performance there is always some excuse from him as to why we its not his fault we didn't win.

Now as I said before Jose isn't the only problem which the club has at the moment. To me the biggest problem is Daniel Levy who has got us into this mess. But personally think it is clear to see that Jose really isn't the man to rebuild us and get us back to where we were.
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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‘Mismanagement’ ?

please tell me what other chairman has provided a world class training centre and stadium through ‘mismanagement’ ?
I’d be more excited about our prospects if Beavertown Inhouse Brewery was leading the race for the Golden Boot. Sadly, it is not. All fur coat and no knickers. And not in a good way either.
 

EastLondonYid

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Jan 26, 2010
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funny how 10 years ago i would have sold my grandmother to have Jose as our manager.

He was gold dust, a caste iron guarantee of trophies and success.

I thought it ridiculous that you could pay £25m for a player that may or may not work when you could give £25m to Jose to come and win us stuff guaranteed.

WTF happened??


Wrong fit .....he usually joins clubs who say to him ''what do you need to win us the league and CL'' now for the first time he ain't.
 

jolsnogross

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May 17, 2005
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I thought the shutdown did him an enormous favor. We were horrendous at that time, with injuries a mitigating excuse, and he was headed for ending the season with enormous pressure built up. Then he gets a break, time for players to recover and rest, come back for a mini league refreshed from a mini pre-season of sorts.

But it's been the same utterly turgid rubbish ball since the restart. The footy equivalent of color by numbers and pretending its art. Predictable tactics, players drilled in a philosophy of make no mistake in possession and take advantage of any our opponents make. A permanent inferiority complex, with ultra conservative play in possession, and nobody breaking the lines when we have the ball.

This is footy from the end of George Grahams era. And the end of Hoddle's, albeit without the hidings (Sheff Utd was close to one I suppose). These recent games have been atrocious. We're playing dinosaur ball away to Bournemouth, without a decent chance all game.

It was a clusterfuck to appoint someone who does not jive with the style Poch spent 5 seasons building. It was the ultimate Spursy move not to back a manager who had earned his stripes with us and needed to get through a new team recycling process.

Mourinho defenders will point to his history, avoiding his recent trajectory. I dont find it persuasive. The only possibility is a Leicester style freak season, which is a <5% prospect.

Far more likely is we end this shitshow season, the pressure on next season's start is immense, and more of the same means he gets binned after 8 to 12 games. Based on these recent performances, it cant come soon enough.
 

Trees

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Aug 31, 2012
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I thought the shutdown did him an enormous favor. We were horrendous at that time, with injuries a mitigating excuse, and he was headed for ending the season with enormous pressure built up. Then he gets a break, time for players to recover and rest, come back for a mini league refreshed from a mini pre-season of sorts.

But it's been the same utterly turgid rubbish ball since the restart. The footy equivalent of color by numbers and pretending its art. Predictable tactics, players drilled in a philosophy of make no mistake in possession and take advantage of any our opponents make. A permanent inferiority complex, with ultra conservative play in possession, and nobody breaking the lines when we have the ball.

This is footy from the end of George Grahams era. And the end of Hoddle's, albeit without the hidings (Sheff Utd was close to one I suppose). These recent games have been atrocious. We're playing dinosaur ball away to Bournemouth, without a decent chance all game.

It was a clusterfuck to appoint someone who does not jive with the style Poch spent 5 seasons building. It was the ultimate Spursy move not to back a manager who had earned his stripes with us and needed to get through a new team recycling process.

Mourinho defenders will point to his history, avoiding his recent trajectory. I dont find it persuasive. The only possibility is a Leicester style freak season, which is a <5% prospect.

Far more likely is we end this shitshow season, the pressure on next season's start is immense, and more of the same means he gets binned after 8 to 12 games. Based on these recent performances, it cant come soon enough.
This !!!
 

thebenjamin

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Jul 1, 2008
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Who would have thought that this new style of football that he developed during his time off was to play Serge Aurier a bit higher up than a normal full back?
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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Who would have thought that this new style of football that he developed during his time off was to play Serge Aurier a bit higher up than a normal full back?
It’s not something I would have thought of. That’s why he’s on the big money.
 

EastLondonYid

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Jan 26, 2010
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I was livid when we signed him, never really liked his character,and i loved Poch, but i thought at least he may bring some trophies here, get over it i told myself.....

Yeah fucking right.. i knew we would get the really shite version , so now we have a boss i dislike and is shit.
 

Gareth88

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Sep 19, 2017
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Jose has bitten off more than he can chew, I think he saw us dwindling and thought I can do a job here and soon realized how fucked we are. We need to move on a lot of players, Jose wont get the money he has been used to at Utd and Chelsea, struggle next season and leave.
 

Monkey boy

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Jun 18, 2011
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I see a lot of people making reference to Mourinhos philosophy of “not making mistakes”. I haven’t got a clue how to look it up but I’m sure that the stats would show that for the last 3 games the amount of cheap turnovers or misplaced passes would be through the roof. We can’t string 3 passes together at the moment without them being over or under hit and in lots of cases being passed straight out of play. Aurier’s crosses are laughable.
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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I’ve never said this shit his fault, but I’m 0% confident in his ability to turn anything around.

He’s lost his hunger for management, probably took the job knowing how it’d go - knowing he’d be sacked and make another 8 figure payout.
 
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Sack him.

Once he's gone you have to replace him and then give the next manager the same squad.

Then you've got to sell all the players so many of the loudest voices in here don't want.

Then you have to bring in players (they won't all be the first choice of the new manager) and wait for them all to bed in.

All this while the people you don't like remain in charge of THFC.

You'll be complaining until you're dead some of you.
 

EastLondonYid

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Jan 26, 2010
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I’ve never said this shit his fault, but I’m 0% confident in his ability to turn anything around.

He’s lost his hunger for management, probably took the job knowing how it’d go - knowing he’d be sacked and make another 8 figure payout.

I got the feeling he fell out of love with football when the chavs sacked him the second time, plus the abuse he got when he went back there...

Unfortunately we got the washed up version who took on this job bitter about his ex-love and probably wanted to wind them up.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Jun 26, 2012
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I’ve never said this shit his fault, but I’m 0% confident in his ability to turn anything around.

He’s lost his hunger for management, probably took the job knowing how it’d go - knowing he’d be sacked and make another 8 figure payout.

Don't think he is the manager for us long term either but I have the hope that he will atleast deliver a cup and a winning mentality to the team, harden up some soft mentalities and lay a decent foundation for another manager to come in and build on.

The problem is he wasn't brought in for that, he was brought in to turn things around immediately and that hasn't happened. I don't think it would've happened with any manager on earth given the problems we face now are very similar to the problems we faced at the end of Poch's tenure. When are we going to start blaming the players and holding them accountable? 3-4 more managers down the road?

We could sack him and get some in who does turn it around but that's not guaranteed and if we get it wrong again we are going around in circles.
 

thePessimist

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Jul 4, 2012
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Maybe the two are linked...??‍♂️
Sure.

However, the decline of our squad has been obvious for some years. Problems have not been addressed and are biting us in our own asses. He’s responsible for the whole Club, not just the infrastructure. I don’t think there’s any question he’s failed on the footballing side of things lately
 
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