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Jose Mourinho

How do you feel about Mourinho appointment

  • Excited - silverware here we come baby

    Votes: 666 46.7%
  • Meh - will give him a chance and hope he is successful

    Votes: 468 32.8%
  • Horrified - praying for the day he'll fuck off

    Votes: 292 20.5%

  • Total voters
    1,426

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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My problem with Jose is how he exudes negativity. Everything he says and does is with a negative mindset and with a negative demeanour. It really makes me worry about how it rubs off with the players, and how he is with them as well. I know it might just be part of his mind games with the media and he might act completely differently with the squad, but it still concerns me. If the players are feeling down, or stressed out due to the form then negativity will only make it worse. They'll be so afraid of making mistakes that they won't play with freedom and confidence. They'll play in a frustrated way.

Even Son doesn’t look happy. They all look depressed. Forget tactics for a minute If you got someone in there who was just positive and got the players to enjoy what they’re doing you would see a difference on the pitch. He comes across as a bitter, snide, miserable old man now.
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It feels like the life is being sucked out of the club at the moemnt and it is not down to Jose solely but certainly contributing at the moment
 

jay2040

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Aug 31, 2012
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Even Son doesn’t look happy. They all look depressed. Forget tactics for a minute If you got someone in there who was just positive and got the players to enjoy what they’re doing you would see a difference on the pitch. He comes across as a bitter, snide, miserable old man now.

You would probably set up a Santa's grotto and get Redknapp to play Santa so they can sit on his knee and he can have his arm round them!

The players should look a bit down as they are playing shit and have been for some time.

There is no guarantee another manager will improve on Poch and Jose.
 

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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You would probably set up a Santa's grotto and get Redknapp to play Santa so they can sit on his knee and he can have his arm round them!

The players should look a bit down as they are playing shit and have been for some time.

There is no guarantee another manager will improve on Poch and Jose.

Ill play Santa - how dare you


Hence I didnt say that this is down to just the manager... but the club as a whole and that stems from the tone set by Levy... So yes youre most probably right
 

Ionman34

SC Supporter
Jun 1, 2011
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Hmm. We were utter shit under Poch for some team and didn't go down fighting - we had players acting like they didn't know what a ball was.

Bournemouth was the first game in the last 10 or so we failed to score in, and a big part of that was VAR corruption I'm sure.

The problem for years under Poch has been our shite defence, and that was always stopping us from winning things (often games), so I don't really see the problem if we have to get our defence right first before we cover up our issues with goals again. I'm sure it's a short term discomfort for a long term gain.
That is my hope, though I understand the angst on here as their is no getting away from the fact that, as a team, we’ve gotten worse, so it’s very hard to cling to that hope when the evidence before you flies in the face of it.

But sometimes things do get worse before they get better, I’m clinging to the hope that this is the case here.

I still believe that he’s focussing on getting our defensive structure right first, which I believe is the right way to go about a rebuild. But my faith is shaky because, even though I think his initial focus is right, I can’t accept that it means that our attacking structure is totally neglected. We have more than just HM coaching the team, so why aren’t our offensive coaches drilling at least some form of attacking structure? We look like total strangers going forward out there, Christ we can’t even execute simple pass and move manoeuvres.

I still think he’s working at getting a completely solid foundation, but he simply cannot afford to neglect the rest. We need to see some form of transitional play over the next few weeks, just to give us some belief for next season, otherwise I really do fear for next season.
 

journeyman

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Jul 26, 2005
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This season has been turgid from start to finish. But Jose deserves a summer and a chance to swap out some players and make the team his own. If we’re still crap come November or December, that’s a different story.
 

stormfly

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Dec 6, 2006
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Lads, we lost at Bournemouth last year. This was actually a better result. We also didn’t score in that game and Jose wasn’t our coach. Let that sink in. It’s a long road back.
 

journeyman

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Jul 26, 2005
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I would like @Allygold or someone (brave!) to ask him about the journo criticism that his (alleged) refusal to practice attacking moves & patterns is at odds with what Klopp, Pep and other top coaches now prioritise.
 

thekneaf

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Jan 18, 2011
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Give poch the kind of money and freedom to spend mou had and i guarantee you he wins trophies.

I disagree with the part where you say he'd taken us as far as he could. He took us as far as he could Under the restrictions of budget/control we've given him. He should have been give more time if we had no money, or more money if we had no time. We deserve to be in this cluster fuck where we lost our young potential world class manager, stuck with an overpaid dinosaur who is about to destroy the changing room, with our stars getting older and leaving.
Fremkie de Jong is quoted saying we tried to sign him summer 2018 but he was waiting for Barca.

It's also said that Poch didn't want to take a second pick, he wanted de Jong or no one. That was our fallow summer. Who's fault is that?

I'm not saying Levy is perfect, but I'm the summer with no spending we have a player saying we made a serious bid for him and we were rejected. So clearly transfers were attempted.
 

RikkiRocket

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Jul 21, 2015
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He always talks a great game. Very curious to see what he’s like after the next window. He seems very sure he can improve the squad for not very much money. Time will tell, I guess.

All PR PR blah blah blah blah. Mentions 3 years a lot in last para.

he may be the luckiest Spurs manager ever tho, if we had fans in the ground at the minute they’d lynch him.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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I don’t think anyone wanted him gone, just like nobody wants to cut off a finger. But if that finger is gangrenous with a risk of spreading all over, you fucking chop it off. Problem is, replacing that finger is best done with a dull looking synthetic which is designed in tune with your physical and biological make up, but it’s easy to be excited by the gold plated diamond encrusted ceramic finger which once inserted doesn’t actually move in any direction or bend or serve and real purpose.

That said, I’ll openly admit that I felt there was no turning it around for Pochettino for a myriad of reasons, not least him being handcuffed by our increasingly poor transfer strategy, and also that I felt installing Mourinho was the best and most ambitious choice available. As it stands, I’m disappointed with what we’ve seen, but I also accept that he’s almost definitely here until at least the 9th match of next season so therefore I fully hope he turns it around and is given the tools to do so to whatever extent we are able to.
Winnered, partly for the greatest analogy these boards have ever seen.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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I'm not optimistic for obvious reasons but perhaps with him saying "since day one I've been working" indicates that he's already identified and had certain players deemed obtainable by Levy? Otherwise he wouldn't be upbeat about it? We know what Jose is like, he can't hide his feelings, so if Levy was rejecting his options we'd know about it. Of course there's the chance Levy says he'll get the player but then refuses to front up.

This is what’s going to happen isn’t it. We won’t get his first choices and then when we play badly it won’t be his fault. This is exactly what happened at Man Utd. Woodward didn’t get the players Mourinho wanted and forced others on him. If Levy doesn’t know that and plays the same game then (I’m actually on Mourinho’s side here) Levy will get what’s coming to him.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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It feels like the life is being sucked out of the club at the moemnt and it is not down to Jose solely but certainly contributing at the moment



The fans online are playing their part in that with aplomb as well as the on pitch performances and have been since Mourinho has been appointed. So much moaning and negativity which the media see and invest into their already negative views on Mourinho. Plus the fact the media in London is mostly made up of West Ham and Arsenal fans they love to feed on it.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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If Levy doesn’t know that and plays the same game then (I’m actually on Mourinho’s side here) Levy will get what’s coming to him.
Will he though? He’s been doing this to every manager we’ve had under him, and when it goes tits up the manager leaves and we start the cycle again.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Will he though? He’s been doing this to every manager we’ve had under him, and when it goes tits up the manager leaves and we start the cycle again.

Mourinho will definitely unload. It’s never stopped him in the past. If Mourinho doesn’t get the players in the next window, which goes into a month of the season then the fireworks will begin. Actually, they will begin if nobody has been brought in before the games start If nothing has happened.
 

Wsussexspur

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Oct 2, 2007
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Lads, we lost at Bournemouth last year. This was actually a better result. We also didn’t score in that game and Jose wasn’t our coach. Let that sink in. It’s a long road back.

we had 9 players for pretty much whole of the second half and except for Wanyama failing to mark his man properly at a corner In last minute would have got a point from that game. From memory even with just nine players on the pitch we still created more chances to Score and had shots on target than we did in the whole 104 minutes of Thursday evenings debacle.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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Mourinho will definitely unload. It’s never stopped him in the past. If Mourinho doesn’t get the players in the next window, which goes into a month of the season then the fireworks will begin. Actually, they will begin if nobody has been brought in before the games start If nothing has happened.
I hope you're right mate.
 
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